Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 653 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:39 am: | |
I previously spoke of this. I wonder what job has been offerd to her??? Former Detroit City Council member Sharon McPhail is expected to be appointed to a new position with the city. McPhail is expected to join the Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick administration, Local 4 reported. There were rumors that McPhail (pictured, with Kilpatrick) would be considered as the next deputy mayor, but she said the rumor was not true, according to Local 4. McPhail, who was elected to City Council in 2001, gave up her seat to run for mayor this year, but fell short, placing third in the August primary behind Kilpatrick and his opponent, Freman Hendrix. McPhail also ran unsuccessfully for mayor against Dennis Archer in 1993. McPhail later made public that she was supporting incumbent Kilpatrick in the recent mayoral election. The councilwoman has had public rifts with Kilpatrick -- also elected in 2001 -- over several issues, including changing the embattled police department and the mayor's education plan. McPhail also has been an outspoken critic of Kilpatrick's handling of the Detroit casino negotiations. In January 2003, she said the mayor tried to give her an electric jolt by having someone tamper with her chair massager. Kilpatrick responded by calling the accusation "ridiculous." The Kilpatrick administration is also expected to announce several other staff changes. http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/6149507/detail.html |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 867 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:56 am: | |
Shocking !!!! Electrifying news hehehehee |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 2188 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.137
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:59 am: | |
"To the winners go the spoils". |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 659 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:14 am: | |
Couldn't be any other way Lowell. BTW I need to contact you concerning some of your work. Expect an email tonight |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1969 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:34 am: | |
Great news! She will do a lot of good in whatever position she accepts. |
Detroitwonk Member Username: Detroitwonk
Post Number: 94 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 69.89.100.18
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:08 am: | |
Broken_main - The position she is being appointed to is supposedly "General Counsel"... |
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 454 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:11 am: | |
I thought she was going to be the point person for taking on the insurance red lining? |
Super_d Member Username: Super_d
Post Number: 559 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.246.119.77
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:32 pm: | |
Good choice by the Mayor__ Mrs. McPhail is a brilliant, smart and well prepared Women.__this is a good choice for the Mayor and his administration. The 'naysayers' complained about the previous administrations lack of skilled personel. The is a good step toward correcting that problem. Thumbs up on this one. super d(motordetroit) |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 84 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 206.81.45.34
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:41 pm: | |
he's giving her a job? i didn't know they went to school together... |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1970 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:43 pm: | |
Sharon has a lot of grass-roots and more of the liberal/activist (and liberal whites) in the city who support her. This will be seen as a good sign by them that the mayor is putting her in this position. She will have a lot of responsibility it looks like including insurance reform for Detroiters. I know most of the McPhail people I have spoken with over the last 24 hours we are thrilled. |
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander
Post Number: 1465 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.164.127
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:06 pm: | |
ILD please stop with your grass roots shit, if she had a large grass roots following she would have done better in the primary. I was at Agaves last night and heard from a reliable source that she decided to accept the mayor’s job offer because she was guaranteed that he would no longer rig her chair to give her shocks. I personally believe she could use a little shock treatment. |
Shave Member Username: Shave
Post Number: 995 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 172.132.83.214
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:06 pm: | |
Ilovedetroit, someone may as well get to you before Metro does. Therefore, I will spare him the liberty of 'finding' you in yet 'another' 'lie.' ***AHEM*** Of course you 'met' these 'supporters' in the 'basement of the church.' What are you doing 'in the basement of the church,' Ilovedetroit? Are you a 'man' are you a 'woman' are you 'black' or are you 'white' or.... You do realize that the 'recount' is not "over" and that FBI is still "investigating" the ballots. Sure McPhail will work on 'insurance redlining." How did you 'speak' with 'most' 'McPhail' 'supporters' in the 'last 24 hours'? Once again, you have proven yourself to be a liar all the way up in 'Ferndale' or are you still living in 'Detroit'? LOL... |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1971 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:21 pm: | |
Shave - OMG you have Metro down to a T...be careful you will be on his hit list now. |
65memories Member Username: 65memories
Post Number: 237 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.238.170.50
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:23 pm: | |
ILD...you'd be hard-pressed to count the number of white liberals in Detroit who support McPhail on one hand. Most laugh at her about-face. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1972 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:38 pm: | |
Oh well laugh all you want those of us who supported McPhail and the mayor are not laughing...we won...they lost. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 646 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:47 pm: | |
Merchantgander you're looking pretty ugly here. Sharon is a hard worker, a dedicated civil servant, and an extremely intelligent attorney. We're lucky to have her working for the city. Period. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1450 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.236.165.104
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:59 pm: | |
Congrats to Ms. McPhail. I encourage her to work diligently to make Detroit a better place to live, work and raise a family in whatever capacity she serves. I also wish to remind her, and everyone else in the Kilpatrick team, that Rosa Parks will not have another funeral in 3 1/2 years nor will Mayor Kilpatrick face an opponent with as much baggage as Freman Hendrix. Mayor Kilpatrick came in second place during the primary for a reason. Moreover, if the ABK vote hadn't been split three ways by the entry of Senator Clarke, he would've come in third place and been eliminated in August. If Ms. McPhail and company want to continue occupying their current seats, they will have to start doing much more for the people they are paid to serve. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1973 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:14 pm: | |
Fnemecek - Well said and fairly said. |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 385 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:36 pm: | |
Shave......you really do have it! That was Metro to a tee....damn that was good! |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2159 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:59 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit" you're starting to slip. You should have started this thread. I guess you were too busy "getting in contact with all the McPhail people". Quinn and "Ilovedetroit" posting together, what a "surprise". Shave, what are you talking about? "No one was offended" by McPhail, everyone voted for her. As it turns out, she did not attend the "Sambo Awards", where "there wasn't any money made off that name". What tickets that they charged $10 for? More "lies" no doubt. "The Michigan Citizen" said...blah, blah, blah. ...But are you still "impartial" Bratt? Will you "not be voting" in four years..."if the election is held on that day" in four years? Or "you will vote, not just in the mayoral race" in four years? |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 9766 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:00 pm: | |
Frank, Actually, it's Mrs Sneed or something like that, not Ms. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2160 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:02 pm: | |
Actually it's Ms. McPhail. She can't keep a man... "Ilovedetroit" better get busy photoshopping him into more pictures and getting them posted...don't want to slip up like last time... |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1974 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:11 pm: | |
Metro - You really have to be a gay man...no straight man is that bitchy! Come on out of the closet - "here kitty, kitty, kitty". |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2163 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:16 pm: | |
Once again "Ilovedetroit" makes unwanted homosexual advances... Sicko. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1975 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:18 pm: | |
HAHAHAHAHAHA I am laughing so hard now. Metro you really do make my day! |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2165 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:21 pm: | |
And you're still one of the shadiest people out there "Ilovedetroit". |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 386 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:22 pm: | |
Metro: He's just calling it like he sees it. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1976 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:23 pm: | |
Metro - MEOW! |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2166 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:24 pm: | |
...Because he/she is "impartial", just like you. "Calling it like you see it" of course. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2167 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:25 pm: | |
I truly hope that "Ilovedetroit" doesn't hang around schools or young children. |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 387 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:26 pm: | |
Metro: You keep turning me on like that, and I might just have to come to the crazy home you're at and give you a lap dance...better yet, I'll pick up ILD on the way and you can get a two for one....woo-woo! |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2168 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:30 pm: | |
Bratt, you are, in large part, judged on the company that you keep. What a "surprise" that you "might not be" the most reputable character out there. As if the dishonesty didn't give you away... |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1977 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:31 pm: | |
Metro - It is kind of disgusting to equate being gay to "picking up children." But I would expect someone with your limited capacities to think any different. Try laughing at yourself sometime Metro (I know I do) life need not be so serious. Watch out for your lap dance from Bratt she is a hottie! |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 388 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:34 pm: | |
You just a fool Metro. But that's okay, that Bipolar thing is really going around these days. But I heard that if you keep taking your meds, that you could actually be quite normal. But watch out, some of that medication makes you real sleepy...so don't operate heavy machinery while taking it. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2169 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
Nice try "Ilovedetroit" and way to try to bring down gay people with you. Between your dishonesty about politics on this forum...dishonesty about your race, gender, residence, etc...and your unwanted advances...your shady character is quite evident. Disgusting indeed. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2170 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:37 pm: | |
Bratt, once again, your name speaks for itself. Try growing up. |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 389 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:38 pm: | |
Okay, so Metro, ILD and I are really going back and forth here...let's stop the bullshit and go have a drink. It's evident none of us are really working right now. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2171 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:41 pm: | |
The likes of "Ilovedetroit", Bratt, etc want people to think that although they're shady characters on the forum...that they're really good people in person. Sure. |
Shave Member Username: Shave
Post Number: 999 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 172.132.83.214
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:51 pm: | |
'Metro' 'Metro' 'Metro' Your overuse of the word 'liar' is "evident" of the 'fact' that you are a 'liar.' Remember, it takes a 'liar' to know a 'liar.' You did "know" that, right? Wow...we are "still" on the 'Sambo Awards.' You are not 'wrapped too tight.' Clearly you are "bi-polar" exactly as Bratt pointed out. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2172 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:56 pm: | |
You're "right" Shave. You can say or do anything and the passage of time will make it irrelevant (or better yet, simply make your deeds go away)...even if you keep up the exact same type of behavior. You might want to start by acknowledging the fact that you intentionally posted erroneous claims, before you ask people to get past it. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1451 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.236.165.104
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:02 pm: | |
quote:Frank, Actually, it's Mrs Sneed or something like that, not Ms.
I beg to differ. The term "Ms." can be used to a woman regardless of whether or not she is married. Since Sharon McPhail prefers to keep her maiden name, "Ms. McPhail" seems more appropriate. |
Shave Member Username: Shave
Post Number: 1000 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 172.132.83.214
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:21 pm: | |
'Metro' your overuse of 'smileys' today is very 'suspect.' Hmmm...ironic of you to bring up 'behavior.' Your "bitchy" 'behavior' on this forum regarding the 'lies' people 'tell' is suspect 'behavior.' You continuously "pointing out" forumer's "supposed" 'lies' is very...dare I say, 'troubling.' I bet you type in the dark with the blinds pulled very tight. What's worse, I bet you are tall, dark, and handsome. Just have a dark side like, say, Ted Bundy. Oooooooo..... |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2173 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.68.81
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:37 pm: | |
What a shocker! A few of the forumers that have been repeatedly exposed intentionally making erroneous claims coming to each others defense. What next? Again, if the likes of Shave, "Ilovedetroit", Bratt, etc. are this dishonest on an anonymous internet forum, imagine their behavior out in the real world. Ted Bundy indeed! Again, I hope you people don't work with children, money, food, or anything else involving public contact. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1978 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.40.105.21
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:33 pm: | |
Meow! Metro you are a mess. But that is ok it takes all type of psychos errr I mean people to make this world and interesting place. |
Citygal Member Username: Citygal
Post Number: 10 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 12.75.53.95
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:13 pm: | |
I wish you guys would stop all of the juvenile name calling and stay on the issues. It is so obvious that Kwame is paying back Sharon for supporting him in the election. How much does she get in salary anyway? Does this appointment have to be approved by our new City Council? |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 1767 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 207.69.137.21
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:28 am: | |
Citygal, in case no one told you so, welcome to the forum. They've been at this pissing match since well before the elections. Shave: congrat's on hitting 1000, welcome to the Millenium Club (over 1000 posts). Although I don't think that particular post is worthy of the magic number.... Folks.... put it to rest...... Maybe for next year's Forum Picnic we should have one of those "throw the ball dunking stools into a tank of water" like they have at carnivals... Think of the thousands we could generate in contributions for Lowell and the Forum, if you all took a turn on the seat.... Hell if Ras and Mello were to show up, I'd even take a turn on the stool... for a good cause! |
Nellonfury Member Username: Nellonfury
Post Number: 66 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 68.43.156.135
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:02 am: | |
It's just the beginning.
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Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander
Post Number: 1468 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.164.127
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:44 am: | |
Sharon (Alias Static Shock) will make a $121,000 a year. |
Paulmcall
Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 575 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:48 am: | |
The old "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" is alive and well. I wonder how all the laid off people feel about this. The position has been unfilled for three years and now there is a great need to fill it? Kwame is more interested in paying off a political debt than in saving the city $126,000. How many more days until receivership? |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 62 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:28 am: | |
For anyones' information...he is now having the Law Dept lay off additional personnel in order to come up with the money to pay her salary! Mark my words! The next four years are truly going to be worst than the last four. And one thing we can say about him is that he wastes no time in showing everyone what he is NOT about. This term, please, please carry yourself with your eyes wide open. [Shock and Awe] Again, I just think this administration is totally not in touch with the real, no clue about how to handle financial crisis, doesn't know how to administer funds practically and productively, and can care less about who knows it or how his actions are preceived. And more importantly, what is his mission or direction for this city as it relates to "what is MOST important for this city." [Housing development is definitely not it, if, as it is said, we are losing residents at great numbers.] |
1honey Member Username: 1honey
Post Number: 71 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 208.39.170.90
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:36 pm: | |
What a cute picture, lol. I agree with you Fec, it's just the beginning. I would love to be a fly on the wall to see the relationship of McP & Beatty. |
Paulmcall
Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 579 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 1:32 pm: | |
Kind of like a version of Celebrity Death Match. |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 345 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 2:24 pm: | |
Fec: I am so puzzled by the Republican civic leaders that support KK. For example, last week Chris Ilitch said that KK was a "brilliant leader." I am beginning to think that they have a vested interest in getting KK and his voting supporters involved in the Republican Party. They are feeding him a long line that says that the Dems aren't noticing how wonderful he is, but the Republiocans are. It would be a very big feather for Nicholson, who is one of the top Republican/Bush fundraisers to bring KK into the fold. And KK would LOVE the publicity and the perceived respect. He would like to be the Obama of the Republican Party, since that job is already taken in his current party I bet the only fly in this ointment is KK's mother - who would have a pretty hard time with it. Otherwise, what is the reason these guys are so hot for KK? All that's happened lately - the lofts, the retail (such as it is) was predicted when the stadia were built. It was the reason those projects were put in place by Archer's admin. All KK has done, really is stay out of the way. Oh, and he paved a lot of streets and bought those pole shrouds. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2175 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.117.196
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:59 pm: | |
SWMap, the Ilitches did not support KK during the election. They supported Hendrix. What is taking place now is strictly business and working with the man that is now in office. Ditto Roger Penske. Also, the Republicans don't want nor need KK, in terms of anything on a national scale, (i.e. Sen. Obama). They already have far better people in Rev. Butler (US Sen Candidate, MI), Lt. Gov Steele (US Sen Candidate, MD), Football great Swann (PA Gov Candidate), and SOS Blackwell (OH Gov Candidate). |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 63 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:56 pm: | |
Well, they [Republicans] are doing a great job in fronting him. Remember, he was building these relationships prior to election day, and, he's invited into Detroit's fold, Detroit's public enemy No. 1 - - John Egler. Perhaps KKK is the lap dog in this next adventure, and/or he's being hoodwinked, and/or he doesn't realize or care about its perception or harm. [Trojan Horse] Keep your eyes and ears open. Since he's welcoming them into our home, perhaps they can bring some assistance to our basic city services. That's all I'm interested in - - what will they bring to the table without KKK doling out what's left. By the way, what is left? [That question would make a good thread subject over the next several months] |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8066 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.195.66
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:59 pm: | |
...like they did with the DPS? |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 346 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:28 pm: | |
Metro: I have heard that KK is very disappointed in the national Dem party because they have distanced themselves from him lately. And the Republicans here are showing A LOT of interest in him. Isn't it funny? |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2176 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.2.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:00 pm: | |
It's funny yes, but given the demographics of Detroit as well as his mother's place in the party, among other factors, it's nothing more than anecdotal at best. Especially given the recent lobbying scandals, it would make absolutely no sense for the GOP to bring on someone with as much personal and political (likely Detroit receivership) baggage as Kilpatrick. Also, as I previously said, the party also has four other high level Black candidates that are far more qualified in the character department. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1979 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:01 pm: | |
You bunch of McPhail haters all make me laugh. The Law Dept in Detroit needs reform. They can't win a case if their life depended on it. "Lay off people to pay her salary"...what one or two people - there is probably that in retirements alone. She will have a positive impact on this city. And KK will end up being a very strong mayor over the next four years. More so than that joke Hendrix. Everyone is running from him...with all his debts and unpaid bills. He sold his soul to win and now he has to pay up. The Dems are not distancing form KK - certain senators were because of the ones that were supporting Hendrix - not that he is yesterday's news they are crawling back to KK. Granholm supports him and openly - the Republicans (I am not one) are courting him because they don't want him to encourage Detroiters to go out and vote in November for Granholm. If he is smart (and he is) he will play it up and get the best deals for Detroit. Remember no matter what you say he is a WINNER and won by a very decent margin. |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 347 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:04 pm: | |
Granholm is the worst sort of opportunist imo. I am a democrat but I can't vote for her after her stupid performance at KK's inauguration. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1980 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:06 pm: | |
So you would sell out and vote for DeVos? Shame on you! |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2177 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.2.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:12 pm: | |
Don't bet on KK and JG hanging out too much. The more she associates with him, the more she allienates suburban voters, whom she will need just as much, if not more than Detroiters. By the way, "Ilovedetroit", does "everyone that is running from Hendrix" include you? Remember when you originally claimed to be a supporter of his. Then denied it. Then admitted to it again. Then denied it again...Maybe if Hendrix "made six figures" like you he wouldn't have all those "debts and unpaid bills". Or was it "middle class, creative class type"? Your stories keep changing. Also, how will "McPhail have a positive impact on the city"? She hasn't done anything previously. McPhail and winning don't exactly go hand in hand. |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 348 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:25 pm: | |
Sell-out? That's what JG has done - she's like a prostitute with KK. I won't vote for DeVos, either. Just no $$$ to JG and no supportive talk. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2179 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.2.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:33 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit" once again "explain" a contradiction in something that you claim. How is voting for Devos "selling out", yet Kilpatrick aligning himself with Republicans (especially after running a campaign accusing his opponent of doing such) something else? |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 64 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:52 pm: | |
McPhail is a crazy lady; and KKK is a sell out. Now, I said it and I mean it, ILD. [Idiot(s) Lose in Detroit] |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1981 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:03 pm: | |
Metro you and Fec never have anything to say on here unless it is about loser Hendrix or the winning team McPhail/Kilpatrick..go back under your bridges with the other trolls where you belong. At least the others on here have something else to say. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2181 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.2.226
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:10 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit", made up stories about yourself as well as political candidates does not constitute "having something to say". I guess if you can't tell the truth about anything, you certainly wouldn't be up for (honestly) answering questions...only more name-calling and dishonest claims. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1982 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:37 pm: | |
"BITTER", "BITTER..."table for one"..."BITTER"...Metro they are calling your name at the Cafe Loser. Come on Metro - lets call a truce - Jeez this has gone on long enough. |
Quickdrawmcgraw Member Username: Quickdrawmcgraw
Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 63.77.247.130
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:39 pm: | |
You know, this union sound more like politics rather than getting the right people to do the right job. Kwame should read the book "Good to Great". Sharon has not been effective in creating lasting positive change, only argues about the issues. I guess this is her only chance to get close to the top position. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 647 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:49 pm: | |
I can't believe this thread is so long. Everyone get ahold of yourselves...you knew this would happen. Sharon helped him win and he needs her help. DUH. Get over it. Please. The more you type the more pathetic and whiney you look.
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Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2183 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.79.112
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:46 pm: | |
Once again "Ilovedetroit" calls for a "truce" as he/she continues the name-calling, spreading false accusations, misrepresenting him/herself, unwanted homosexual advances, etc. Could you be anymore of a dishonest person? |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 65 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 1:48 pm: | |
My premise has been about what is good for my city, and I have taken this stance more vehemently since 11/8/05. If that means me talking about whomever has been given, or has taken [for lack of a better word], the job in making sure this city survives and that basic city services are met, then you can label it whatever you chose. I don't care what you call my condition! Those people that have been put in positions and have caused those to be in positions of maintaining and sustaining this city, must do so with full accountability and correctness. That's all I'm championing for; that's all I advocate for. Call me what you want! A serious question for ILD [if you can be]: Are you a Detroiter with any concerns? |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 672 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.136.139.223
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:16 pm: | |
Hey people, stick with the basics. I think we all should look at the entire situation. Sharon and Kwame have resolved their differences. They are giving the city a true display of letting bygones be bygones. As with any business, marriage, partnership, etc. people are going to have differences. I think we all need to follow suit and learn(finally) that we can all agree or disagree. These continuous bouts of harrassment about peoples gender and sexuality are truly tiring. Stop messing up a good thread and stick with the subject please. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2189 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.94.219
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:23 pm: | |
"They are giving the city a true display of letting bygones be bygones." Ford and Carter would be a good example of such, but hardly KK and SM. The rewards of a six-figure, high profile job hardly qualifies as acting on benevolent motives. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 674 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.136.139.223
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:29 pm: | |
I would say yes. While we all know that Kwame feels that Sharon is somewhat instrumental in his reelection win, and political favors are a common way to "pay" people back, Sharon is an experienced lawyer and one that has proven(imho) to be dedicated to the issues of this city. The city of Detroits Law Dept. doesn't have the greatest track record as far as cases won. I am going to give Sharon the necessary benefit of the doubt that things can and will get better in that department. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3268 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.196
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:55 am: | |
MD and his man Hendrix had said that KK was working with the repubs. Now they are saying here that the repubs don't need KK. I guess anything is said when it comes to supporting your political candidate. Then Fnemecek does a poor job of disguising his dislike for Sharon. In his view they need to do more, but to others who actually supported Sharon and or KK they already did enough to get their support. Obviously Hendrix didn't do enough in his eight years of being the Operations Man to get folks vote. He came in first in the primary because none of the media focused on his negatives and none of the media focused on any of the other candidates positives. Folks are already looking forward to the next mayoral election. Well, its won, decided and finished. If KK wants to be mayor next time, he will be. The real test will be the Gov race and the next state races. KK can show whether or not he can do what Archer could not and that is get folks elected. KK is no coleman Young but he does show more love for his people than anyone did during the Archer years. And in case anyone brings up the CC, they will roll over and perform when KK tells them how to vote. Perhaps SC will hold out but she is in the minority and her strong support of Hendrix has hurt her severly. If folks want KK and Sharon to do something for them, they will have to show how they will support the city. So far, folks here do not support the city unless its doing things they way they want. Otherwise they seek to tear it down anyway and anyhow. Just like Hendrix tried to do to get elected. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2193 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.248.3.161
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 2:12 am: | |
Brian, since you are incapable of basic comprehension as well as incapable of honesty, I will break down what I said... 1. KK IS working (term used loosely) with Republicans. 2. The GOP DOES NOT NEED NOR WANT KK on its national stage. He is quite useful to them, however, locally. 3. What makes the entire situation sickening (not a matter of partisanship in my book, since I support candidates from both parties) is that KK falsely labeled his opponent with the very behavior that he is now displaying. Quite simply, more dishonesty from KK. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3270 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.196
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 2:36 am: | |
Doublespeak from the Helmut Group who, "support[s] candidates from both parties". |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 66 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.69.24
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 2:56 am: | |
Here is a question that would put us back to the subject line of this thread. Why wasn't McPhail appointed as the Corporation Counsel [Law Director]? Would it have had anything to do with Swindle Wendell's cashed in chip outweighing her chip? [Mr. Johnson, of the NAACP] Or, perhaps KKK can keep a tighter rein on her in a smaller arena as oppose to her becoming lost in what's left of a Law department and its affiliates. Or, maybe he is being cautious in that he knows she's a snake so he's taking her in 'just so far.' Or, he remembers how she can become paranoid so he's keeping her close to his chest. The possibilities are endless! This is a hardball question deserving of good, sound, unbias reasonings. Know of any, anyone? |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 3649 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 207.74.110.103
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 6:27 am: | |
What is that BLACK CAESAR doing? He appointed a evil witch into his T.H.U.G. Mafia association. This city is doomed anyway! Wait til that evil witch gets her creey hands on King Kwame. She she'll dethrown him within a couple years. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1987 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 24.172.45.2
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:28 am: | |
Her position has been on the org chart for many years just never filled - actually Archer put the position on the chart. She will be handling duties in addition to the law dept. ALSO she is in charge of insurance reform for the city. Ok lets see how much more nasty we can get...FEC, Metro, Danny I am sure you have more evil McPhail hating commments to make. |
Bratt Member Username: Bratt
Post Number: 391 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:43 am: | |
If you feel that way Danny.....move, or shut up! |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 351 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:20 pm: | |
Here's a comment from John Bennett that I caught this morning. He's commenting on Karen Dumas' obsession with Hendrix supporters (read "Brian"): "They are very insecure, it's almost as if they want to admit that the better man did not win. They seem so angry at Hendrix..Why? ..If this is how they deal with winning imagine if they had lost." |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 648 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:30 pm: | |
I don't know who john bennett is but I'm willing to bet he was a hendrix supporter...which makes your (or his) whole point moot. I thought the KK people did a pretty good job of "ignoring" freman's last tantrum: the failed recount. Nice try losers. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 684 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 5:18 pm: | |
Hmmm..still spewing venom amongst one anther. Good comment Quinn |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 69 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.123.158
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 3:20 am: | |
QUESTION, anyone . . . Why do you think McPhail was not appointed as the director of the Law Dept.? Signed, A true, caring Detroiter that ain't Leaving my City for anyone. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 652 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.20
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 3:56 am: | |
I think that might have been too limited for her. In this role, she still controls the law department (corp counsel reports to her), yet has ownership over training of city staff...that was a big part of her campaign (making services better and a big part of that is proper training of the staff). I bet she was offered Corp. Counsel, but said no because it was too limited. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3272 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.189
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 9:29 am: | |
Bennet has run an anti-KK web site since KK took office. He is a disgruntled ex-city employee who sued the city. He attacks anyone at the city who does not share his pro-Hendrix opinion. Just like many on this site who can't take (or read) criticism of Hendrix and attack anyone who would criticize Hendrix. Is it because Hendrix has done nothing to be criticized for? Or is it because folks fear his poltical career is over? And folks here attack Sharon. Sore losers it seems from folks who seek to call others sore winners. If everyone is sore, which side are you on. |
Royce Member Username: Royce
Post Number: 1417 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.212.208.231
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:01 am: | |
Brian, I'm not sure whose side your on, but we all know whose side you are not on. It still amazes me that you have this love-hate torch for Hendrix that runs so deep. You HATE him so much yet you LOVE to talk about him ad nauseum. Still you want to blame others for attacking your candidate, yet you have attacked Hendrix at nearly every opportunity that you have come on this forum(don't see you commenting about much else on this forum). He lost the election and yet you still LOVE to talk about him. I swear, he must have really done some bad shit to you for you to be walking around with such a huge chip on your shoulder. What did he do to you, Brian? In college did he steal your girlfriend?As deputy mayor did he fire you? Did he perhaps steal an idea from you and took credit for it? Brian, I have to wonder seriously if you are not stalking Hendrix. Anybody with your obsession with another human being has to have some serious issues. Again, seek professional help ASAP. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 721 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 12:06 pm: | |
Wow!! Brian, I respect your disgust with Hendrix, but I, too, would like to know what the deal is??? Freman is gone and I don't think he has any chance of trying to come back to the Detroit political arena. BTW Brian, If you need to talk about this more, maybe some of us can hook up for drinks soon. I know how you feel about it. I work for the city and I actually had the displeasure to have to be here during the Archer/Hendrix regime and did not like it. Even more so I had to vote for Kilpatrick who was endorsed by my candidate MCPhail. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3273 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.189
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 12:20 pm: | |
Hendrix (and Archer) really fukked up Detroit. If you live in Detroit you should know what it means. Hendrix could have won if he had backed away from Archer. Detroiters don't like Archer. But Hendrix tied his wagon to Archer's horse and he lost. If Hendrix really did all he said he did during his campaign than he is at fault just as much as his former boss. The reason he is still a topic, folks who supported Hendrix continue to attack others for no other reason than they do not support Hendrix, his ideas or the things done by Archer/Hendrix. Why do you care what I say Royce? Is it because you still carry a torch for Hendrix? My criticisms upset you and you react. Broken_Main, the talk is for people to understand what really has occured and is occuring in the metro area. Many of the stuff put onto this site is wrong. Look at the BC and most of the CBD development info. It was all incorrect. The many folks here who live in the burbs, don't even know what is going on in their own city. Yet folks take the two major dailies and use that information as their basis for all that is Detroit. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 726 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 12:37 pm: | |
Brian shoot me your email if you can. I understand how you feel, especially being a city worker and having to endure the Archer administration. You know the one where he couldn't negotiate with the city workers with a contract. The same one who gave was okay with city workers living outside of the city(which did nothing but help the dwindling city tax base). Trust me man...I know. Here is some food for though though. I will stay here in Detroit and be a part of the solution to her problems. It is really time for all of us to make an effort to make this city better. Remember, there are people that understand what you feel. |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3414 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.192.149
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 1:36 pm: | |
Hey Brian, these nerds are gonna schitt a big red historical BRICK when they find out that Coleman Young is back and will prolly run for office ....... (gonna watch 'em scratch their heads now!) Black-atcha ...... roflmbao |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 485 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.212.169.194
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 1:41 pm: | |
"Detroiters dont like Archer." Would that be some Detroiters or all Detroiters? 80%? 17%? We've seen from the recent primary that when Brian says "Detroiters" it doesnt mean a majority. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3274 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.189
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 1:46 pm: | |
I do know that others agree with my sentiments. Many of them supported Sharon McPhail and some KK. Its why I proudly support Hood Research, a non-profit Think Tank which works on getting information to people in the metro area. (for their web site Google their name) I have spoken with many city workers who have said the same thing. What I feel is the major problem in the mayors administration is that too many workers from the Archer administration are still there and still providing poor advice while continuing the same things they did under Archer. KK is not sophisticated enough to understand the real impact of their actions or advice. I am hopeful that Sharon can shed light on some of this but her role is limited. Also many of those persons from the Archer years are responsible for the cold relationship KK had with the previous CC and his adversarial role with some folks including Sharon when she was on the CC. They almost ran their boss out right under his own nose. Now they are trying to push other Archer policies on the city via the manufactured defict. And for those who don't understand that statement, most of the deficits we have experienced in the past three years are due to policies enacted in the Archer years. Archer pushed his problems into the future and we are now living in Archer's future. I do not expose my email online. look to statements above for one obvious reason. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2001 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 1:59 pm: | |
Brian - Didn't Archer also change the pension vesting for city employees from 12 years (?) to 8 years - I know it is 8 now. I understand this was for his appointees so they could get pensions. I know he added 2-3,000 new people under his administration even though we shrunk in size about 100,000 people. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3275 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.189
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 5:52 pm: | |
That's right. Archer added alot of folks to the pension roles increasing Detroit's pension obligations. And those folks made over $100k. Four to five times as much as the average employee in the city. Obviously from the general election and recount, the majority of Detroiters do not like or want Archer(or Hendrix). That's why Granholm wasted no time in booting them from her campaign committee. |
Miss_flow Member Username: Miss_flow
Post Number: 31 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 9:22 pm: | |
As a union city employee, I voted for KK this time around because Sharon endorsed him, and he was a better choice than Freeman. I'm realistic enough to know that the unions are going to have to take some concessions, whether it's pay freezes or increased health care costs. However, KK needs to realize that he needs to provide his employees with some things that won't necessarily cost him any money, such as trained and knowledgeable managers. The people he relies on to oversee his departments are not people oriented, or especially motivating individuals. Some are just plain arrogant,and stupid enough that they end up costing the city money in law suits for discrimination and harrassment. For me personally, this is it. He doesn't get another chance from me. He needs to let Sharon do her job, and get these supervisors trained, and then better services will follow. It is ultimately KK's responsibility. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 740 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:58 pm: | |
So Miss_flow, you trying to tell me that there is an onslaught of arrogance and stupidity in management??? You say these qualities in managemnet are costing the city lots of money...please expound on the matter... |
Miss_flow Member Username: Miss_flow
Post Number: 32 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 11:18 pm: | |
Broken Main---are you taking issue because you're in management now? Take off your management cape for a moment and go back in time to when you existed as a lowly grunt taking orders from D. S**d. Remember him and all the fine decisions he made concerning your job classisfication? As I told you earlier, if it were not for my fighting him and others constantly as a union officer, you would not be in your position now, because he considered you and others like you untrainable. That was his word and not mine. His poor management style, and even poorer decisions has led to a law suit against the city for discrimination, which will cost us some money. That's the point I was trying to make with regards to training supervisors and managers to get the most out of their employees through positive interaction and motivation. Basic respect goes a long way on both sides. |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 70 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.132.76
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:41 am: | |
Brian said, "What I feel is the major problem in the mayors administration is that too many workers from the Archer administration are still there and still providing poor advice while continuing the same things they did under Archer." For clarification, Brian, who are the Archer folks that are still around that are - - IN POSTIONS - - to provide KKK with bad advise. Will you name at least two of them besides, Meah, director of BSE [which doesn't surprise me that money was stolen because it was the next theivery to happen after all the property that that management has acquired], and Liles, former director of Environmental Affairs [which never contributed much to the process of the look and feel of the city, but was 'given' a downsized version of environmental control and its deputies in a city that daily demonstrates the need to have more, and more, and more, and more environmental control deputies to ticket these environmental offenders and those don't-know-that-you-are-to-kee p-your-property-and-its-enviro nment-clean folks]. He's a big boy, and, he brought his advisors with him! As you can tell, he doesn't like or trust anything new, that's why his chums and confidants are from his past or his family. Now, name at least two others that have the wherewithal to make a positive or negative impact in advising KKK. GOT NAMES?, come up with them! What would McPhail have to contribute seeing that she is an opportunalistic throw back from the twice removed administration. Don't you dare believe that she will be doing just those remedial tasks that were mentioned earlier or what KKK and his folks are saying. Girlfriend has her eye on greater and bigger things as demonstrated throughout her political life. She ain't settling for those job specs! McPhail is going to demonstrate to all as these next four years progress [wrong word]. |
Royce Member Username: Royce
Post Number: 1419 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.212.208.231
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:54 am: | |
Why do I care about what you say, Brian? Because what you say is mostly misinformation. What you say about Hendrix is hateful and mostly inaccurate. I've met the man and he doesn't come across as this evil monster you make him out to be. Your "character assassinations" are unwarranted. You have every right to not like him. However, you "attack" him you don't "criticize" him. And you attack him on stuff that he had nothing to do with. Also, when you are not attacking him on his plans for Detroit when he was running for mayor, you are attacking his personality, finding fault at every opportunity and basing it on no definitive facts. When that wasn't enough you attacked him through "guilt by association." He was Archer's deputy mayor. You don't like Archer. Therefore, you don't like Hendrix. Then, Brian, you throw up this crap about his supporters, which I am one of, attacking his opponents at every opportunity. One of those opponents being Sharon McPhail, someone you support. I told you long ago when I started to respond to your posts that I was responding because of the misinformation you were spreading about Hendrix during the mayoral campaign. I wasn't bad-mouthing Sharon McPhail. Myself and other forumites expressed our opinions about her, but rarely did someone accuse her of things that could not be backed up with facts. However, you accused Hendrix of many things and didn't have an ounce of proof to support your claims. Brian, there's a big difference between expressing your opinion about someone and a witch-hunt. Even now after the mayoral election is over, you are still on a witch-hunt regarding Hendrix. And from what I sense from your last few posts here, you are angry with Archer, but because Hendrix was his deputy mayor, you are going to blame him for the stuff that Archer did as mayor. Brian, when you and others come on this forum and spread misinformation, innuendo, or out and out lies, I feel compelled to step in and challenge the claims being put out here. Also, Brian, don't act as if I shouldn't be concerned by things that you say. There were many people in Germany in the early 1930s who didn't take seriously the things that Hitler was saying. Well, you know the history. (Message edited by royce on January 23, 2006) |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 743 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.136.139.223
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:46 am: | |
Miss_flow... I certainly agree with you. I guess that why I take a look closely at all of the issues. As far as DS is concerned, I do not and have not respected him nor have I respected any of his decisions, especially those concerning the hiring of contractual workers that are doing the jobs of union workers. I know you know that we have come a long way. Don't think because I don this managerial cape that I have taken for granted what it took for me to get here. I just did't want to be classified as one of those idiots or one that is considered stupid just because I took the cape. I think you know where I stand on this issue and you know I stand solidly with you. After our conversation yesterday, I realized even more what this fight is all about and how it relates to the betterment of our department, our city and our family lives. Remember i have a tendency to go against the grain in my position. broken_main |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3416 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:51 am: | |
Excellent points, Brian ..... and true to the cutting edge bone!! {(just a few additions)} You didn't mention how Archer stole the Empowerment Zone dollars and used them to repay his political cronies (positions, salaries, phony non-profit community groups whose directors have lined their own pockets while living in the ex-urbs, etc.). In fact, he loaded the White Book with new positions totally funded by EZ dollars, in addition to funding those crony groups ..... now that the EZ is dead & done, what happened to those positions and most importantly of all, those people??? What the fukk did those groups accomplish??? Better believe KK is catching (and has been catching) hell trying to eliminate those funded positions which drove the "manufactured" deficit up by a third. You're correct, Archer's policies are killing us now!! Additionally, take a look at Graymark and the other Archer/Helmut "so-called" developments.... the people are losing their shoddily constructed homes to the Archer introduced tax collection agency ..... another failed policy, as the 12 year abatement expires. I expect to see a lot of others in the same boat soon. Hope you're paying no attentin to the likes of Fec & Royce, who are like Jack & Jill going up the hill with a bucket that was used for target practice by some other "white Supremacists"!! They're full of "Strawman" arguments. Black-atcha ...... keep bringing the fire! |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 9788 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 2:37 pm: | |
YAY, RAS IS BACK! |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2005 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 3:42 pm: | |
Sport - Don't say "YAY"...people might confuse you with Danny! |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 73 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 4:43 pm: | |
Ras always coming in hitting and missing. I beg to differ with your rendition of the EZ funds. As all grant-oriented projects go, unless those projects have become self-sufficient, when the funds go, so does the project. That money was used as it was intended to. Sure, it started off rocky, as all new ventures do, but it did great things on a ownership and self-reliance basis, especially for the eastside of the city. Ras also stated, "Better believe KK is catching (and has been catching) hell trying to eliminate those funded positions which drove the "manufactured" deficit up by a third." The city served as pass through for the EZ funds. EZ funds were for the community, and we just facilitated and monitored the projects. Please don't give the impression that the City of Detroit took and used the funds by padding departments with an abundance of staff or created new departments. It wasn't like that! Besides, KKK's past and present problems are those which begged for his immediate attention when he first took office. Now we are suffering from his lack of attention. When our problems were just a spark, he waited until it become a full-blown inferno then he began to appear administrative. Look where the city is today: In a much worse condition than it HAD to be in. A day late and a dollar short! To quote you, and to ask ".... the people are losing their shoddily constructed homes to the Archer introduced tax collection agency ....." WHY are they losing their homes, what does one [shoddy homes] have to do with the other [tax collection], and did the homeowners have any responsibilities to their misfortune? Darnit, these are grown folks you are speaking of with recourses. And yes, the city needs to stay on top of tax collections. In case you didn't know, that's revenue and their is plenty out there that needs to be collected. By the way, Ras, the subject matter is McPhail, the other meat... and stop deviating from the subject matter by interjecting your racial baffling. Your hang-up is so obvious until it becomes sickening and is an overkill. You appear imbalanced! Check yourself. Back-at-cha |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2201 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.58
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 7:12 pm: | |
Rasputin, speaking of "target practice", how is that "sniper training for Detroit youth" going? |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2006 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 7:51 pm: | |
It looks like Medusa's offspring are back - FEC and Metro. I guess the bridge is under construction and they had no where to go. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2205 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.58
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 8:00 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit", are you still making unwanted sexual advances, stalking people, and offering to "meet people from the forum for drinks"...in addition to your other sketchy behavior? |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2007 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 8:09 pm: | |
Yeah Metro I am doing all of that plus I am building a rocket to Mars! |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2206 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.58
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 8:11 pm: | |
Of course you're building a "rocket" "Ilovedetroit". |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2008 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 8:21 pm: | |
Oh Metro...you have no sense of humor. Did your parents (or did you hatch from an egg in a barn) give you lumps of coal for xmas? Have a coke and a smile or maybe you need to snort some coke and then smile. I eagerly await your next acerbic comment. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2209 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.58
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:34 pm: | |
Add promoting illegal, hard core drug use to "Ilovedetroit's" "impressive" repertoire. Of course I have a sense of humor, hence the humor of your "rocket"...your specialty. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3279 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.84
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:42 pm: | |
Looks like you have your mind made up fec. But in contrast to your belief, and that of the Pro-Hendrix spin, most of the appointees in the city have not been friends or family members of KK. But if you knew the list you would know that. Hendrix liked to say what you wrote but he never provided the list. Why did Hendrix never provide the list of family members or friends of KK's administration? Because most of the appointees were held over from the Archer years. Royce, you are back on your pro-Hendrix mode. Is he running for another office? Read what you wrote, quote:I've met the man and he doesn't come across as this evil monster you make him out to be. Your "character assassinations" are unwarranted. You have every right to not like him. However, you "attack" him you don't "criticize" him. And you attack him on stuff that he had nothing to do with.
I have read how Hendrix said he was the operations man in charge of operations while the deputy. That provides alot of things for him to get criticism. In fact, Hendrix got criticized for what he did and did not do, not for his personality. In contrast, Hendrix supporters called KK a thug, a bully and other demeaning names. Sort of like attempts to define a black man as a negative image. Folks criticized KK for his credit cards, but when Archer's expenses mirrored KK's, Hendrix folks droped the issue. Where is the investigation into the manoogian mansion? Kym Worthy was supporting Hendrix and she promised an investigation. Was it all talk for the campaign? Talk about misinformation Royce, you spread the party talk but you still can't back it up. Then Fec, uses the term, "appear administrative" to describe KK. I guess that sums it up. Lets not forget how Hendrix' brother ran a company that received contracts for the DREAMS project. The cost over runs was more than triple the initial quote. The project is not costing the city in the hundreds of millions. It nearly matches the deficit and that is one Archer program. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2211 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.58
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:46 pm: | |
OK Brian, where is "the list showing most of KK's appointees being Archer holdovers"? By the way, "Hendrix running for another office (not mayor)" was your claim Brian. What happend? City council...Congress...Wayne Co Commission...clearly you're thinking of McPhail |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3280 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.84
| Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 1:32 am: | |
That was never my claim, MD. If you want the list, see last years appointees. Further, MD, you claimed that KK hired friends and family. You should have the list of those persons you claim got hired for their relationship and not their ability. But you and none of the team Hendrix, ever provided that list or any proof of the claims made against ANY of your opponents. Was Hendrix hoping to get invited to the Superbowl? Now he has to watch it on TV. There was just enough money left in his campaign accounts, since he did not pay all of his bills, so that he can get a widescreen set to go along with his leased Caddy. Maybe he will see me at the game. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3281 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.84
| Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 1:37 am: | |
But back to the topic, This position for Sharon is great. She is positioned to offer her expertise for the betterment of Detroit. Also, she does not have to invent a title if she ever decides to run for another political office. Imagine someone making up a term like 'operations man' to use as a theme in a campaign. |
Royce Member Username: Royce
Post Number: 1420 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.212.231.238
| Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 4:11 am: | |
Brian, am I supposed to be "off" my pro-Hendrix mode because? As long as you continue your witch-hunt of Hendrix, I will be "on" my pro-Hendrix mode. Sharon McPhail didn't win as mayor either but you still seem to have your pro-McPhail mode on. Also, what "misinformation" have I spread, Brian? You continue to "spin" the facts to make you appear innocent, but it has been you from day one spreading misinformation. Brian, if Hendrix had an accident and died tomorrow, you would be on here the same day saying stupid shit like, "See, I told you Hendrix was only worried about himself. If he truly cared about his supporters and the people of Detroit, he would not have deserted them. Why couldn't Hendrix stick it out and live a long life like others? Was he afraid of growing old?" See, that's you, Brian. That's how you sound in ever post and it's pathetic. It's way past time you take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself, "Am I really contributing anything of value to the DetroitYes forum?" You know what my answer is. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2218 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.84.115
| Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 1:01 pm: | |
"Because most of the appointees were held over from the Archer years." -Brian 12 hours later (after being asked to provide proof)... "That was never my claim" -Brian Once again, you show what you're all about. Case closed. By the way, a title and a theme are two entirely different concepts. |
Swingline Member Username: Swingline
Post Number: 393 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 4.229.60.13
| Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 1:52 pm: | |
Sharon McPhail has the ability to make a meaningful contribution to city government in her new position. Hopefully in this position she will be the leader to finally break through and make progress on important Detroit issues such as insurance reform. I'm also optimistic that she can improve the productivity and results generated by the Law Department. For decades this department has been run as a completely top-down organization plagued with a dictatorial management/underappreciated worker culture. Every single member, whether management or staff, operates on a purely "cover my ass" mode which translates into delay, waste and lack of initiative in providing support to city policies and practices. It will be an achievement to succeed at these improvements. On the other hand, if her agenda is driven by the same racist/separatist/white establishment "payback" paranoia that underlies the views and efforts of too many in this city, (e.g., see her Sambo awards participation) all she will become is a poster child for the region's inability to come together. Presumably the mayor will limit her "foot in mouth" tendencies by requiring her to get approval for public statements. That way she can concentrate on policy and operations issues that can make a difference and improve things around here. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3282 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.87
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 1:07 am: | |
MD, if you wanted to waste time you should have waited longer to make it harder to find the exact quotes. But its typical of you and your failed candidate. He also assumed all he said was right and got angry each time he was proven wrong. MD, quote quote:By the way, "Hendrix running for another office (not mayor)" was your claim Brian. What happend? City council...Congress...Wayne Co Commission...clearly you're thinking of McPhail
My quote, quote:That was never my claim, MD.
Notice the word claim. If you want to post lies, make it harder to catch. Royce, sounds like you still push Hendrix. Yet you want others to stop criticizing Hendrix. You don't want him talked about, don't talk about him. Swingline, you don't understand Sharon or at the least have not paid attention to her and instead relied on the Freep and Detnews (or even the MT) for your impressions of who she is. The mayor can't control Sharon. Instead rather, Sharon will help to keep KK's head grounded. They will make a good team assuming others who wish to divide up the city for money (like those pushing the BC deal) are not allowed their full access to public policy. Sharon made a good contribution on the CC. Its why she received so much criticism by those media above. She brought the most meaningful pieces of legislation to the CC since the Coleman years. The Archer years say a CC asleep. They didn't act, they reacted. Speaking of the Law Department, Archer turned it into a meaningless entity. He outsourced all the work to his law firm and reduced the city employees into rubber stamps. Frequently the lawyers there who spent years to get their degrees, licenses and other credentials were told to sign the contracts from the mayors office regardless of the terms, conditions or other items contained in the documents. As Swingline states, they had to resort to a CYA because the documents were so faulty they could have lost their licenses if problems had arisen. The excuse of 'my boss told me to do it' would not work. Contrary to quote:which translates into delay, waste and lack of initiative in providing support to city policies and practices.
the reality of the Archer years was hurry up contracts which were poorly written that allowed the contractors to run up costs, delay delivery and not be responsible to the city. The non-existant Ethics policy from the Archer years despite the call for one and Archer's lip service to needing one allowed for many Archer appointees to make millions based on conflicts of interest. |
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit
Post Number: 1247 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 9:35 am: | |
"Presumably the mayor will limit her "foot in mouth" tendencies by requiring her to get approval for public statements." Because the kwamester is so diplomatic and chooses his words so carefully? The boy king's size 12's spend so much time north of his neck he looks like a yogi. When he's "on", he's one of the best spoken politicians you'll ever hear. But when his immaturity (and perhaps his true character and his hidden agenda)start showing, he's bad in a scary inept kind of way. Like JFK or MLK? Nope. ("nyah nyah nyah" comes to mind as his latest eminently quotable soundbite.) So sharon - of the "I'll lay off 6000 city workers" but "I never said that" except "I said that" - is supposed to be a "plus" for this administration? Sharon's great ideas - privatize, right-size city government, oh, and lay off 6000 city workers ['other than me, my staff, my friends, friends of my staff, my staff's staff,and some guy named "rod"']; then give $$$ to pet projects and politically expedient boondoggles - would embarass and disgrace his kwaminess if he didn't have the same sleazy approach (that is, "city government as trough"). This ain't about the election; this is about the last 4 years and the next. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2015 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 10:54 am: | |
Oh great Bin is back with his usual bitchy comments....like I said I guess the bridges are being worked on cuz all the trolls are coming out into the light again. |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3417 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:15 pm: | |
Fec .... you're dumber than I thought!! Why don't you write about what you KNOW about! or is that too miniscule for you to accept?? You've demonstrated your IGNORANCE of the EZ and its' actions. and please don't ask me how I know, you're too far out in the cow-dung to know about that too!! Mayhaps you shou read the HUD answer to Archer's EZ report .... it's a public document and read the Final Audit/Evaluation performed by the Black United Fund and authorized by the EZDC!! Please don't stay dub and "stuck on stoopid" forever!!. Black-atcha ..... |
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior
Post Number: 2443 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:45 pm: | |
The EZ is not done.... ______________________________ ___________________ 15. _____Status of Report on Empowerment Zone Development Corporation Board Meeting held October 25, 2005 and status of reappointment of Ms. Bruhn to Board of Directors for the Empowerment Zone Development Corporation. (BROUGHT BACK AS DIRECTED ON 11-3-05) ______________________________ ___________________ |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3421 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:51 pm: | |
Zulu: Over & Done .... any remaining funds have been sent back to the State. BRC keeps bringing it up at the table, because she wants any leftovers to be spent in develping her lots in the Mack-Chene area. Givens & Blackmon didn't even show up at the discussion last week!! Go figure .... Black-atcha .... now, let the schitt alone; mon ami |
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior
Post Number: 2444 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 4:33 pm: | |
Not pushing, but the zone still has its tax credits till 2010. I guess their board is still active. btw- 100 pages left in the Covenant. Good stuff. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2226 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.118.89
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 4:41 pm: | |
Brian, again you prove yourself to either be mentally unstable, a pathological liar, or some combination of both. "Ilovedetroit" why don't you ask Bin out on a date, you know, like you've been attempting to do on the forum lately. |
Brian Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 3286 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.103
| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 11:48 pm: | |
You always fall back on name calling MD. Zulu, the board might exist but what do they do? Nothing, with no more money to manage. Looks like the Archer/Hendrix folks will continue with their attacks another four years. When is Hendrix first/next Coffee Talk? Or perhaps one of his infamous town halls. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2236 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.84.34
| Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 12:28 am: | |
You always fall back on dishonesty Brian. Despite holding office, looks like Kilpatrick apolgists/supporters will continue with their dishonesty for another four years (or sooner?). |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3426 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 10:19 pm: | |
Zulu: the Tax credits are exhausted .... the LAW is effect until 2010, if ya got any credits left!! Black-atcha .... |
Fec Member Username: Fec
Post Number: 74 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.75.112
| Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 1:40 am: | |
Ras, I wrote what 'I' knew, and I would strongly assume that's how we all relate to the site. Sorry it's not what you want to hear. Your slant always leans as though you are the only one that knows anything. Again, sorry fellow, you aren't the only one that knows some things and not another. Something for you to know: I was the financial manager with one of the projects for two years, and I can only reference my experience of the EZ from my perspective. I'm not changing what I've written, its my facts and my experiences! You have yours and I have mind. Back-at-cha |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3429 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.192.149
| Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 12:24 pm: | |
Hahahahaha - "Financial Manager" for 1 of the projects!! Big Schitt, me must say ..... Betcha your name appears NOWHERE in either of the Green Books, you do know what those are don't you mr. johnny-wannabe-authority; nor in any official/legislated/decision-m aking EZ or EZDC capacity. Mecalls your schitt, "Delusions of Grandeur"!! Go figure .... Black-atcha ..... watching a real PHONEY |