Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:09 pm: | |
Hello all, I live around the area of 7 Mile & Telegraph, right on the edge of our great city. I've been living in Detroit now for two years with few grievences other than the rampant prostitution which is evident everywhere. Prostitutes don't keep themselves restricted to the main roads - they walk the neighborhoods, usually in the road, just dying for the 20 bucks to get some rock. It's pretty sad to see the number of females who have degenerated themselves to this state of being... to sell themselves for a little self-gratification. Here is my general synopsis of our typical prostitute: -White, 30 - 40 years old -Addicted to crack/cocaine and/or heroin What irks me the most is seeing the cars drive up down my street, looking for the solo female straddling the road. These (typically asian) men drive from all over metro detroit knowing that it is easy to catch some lovin' on my block. It is mostly familys living on my block, with few renters. The number of prostitutes walking the streets has definately increased since the closing of the Eighth precinct. I've talked to prostitutes who say that ever since the princinct closing, things have been getting worse and worse. The Detroit Police have better things to do then to drive around picking up prostitutes and the people that support them. Sure, at one point in time, every prostitute has been picked up by black & white, entered in the system, and let go. It costs too much to lock them up, and the police can't deal with the liability of injuries or false arrests. Lately, everytime I see a prostitute about to hop in someone's car, I walk outside of my house with my cell phone up to my ear. I walk directly behind the car and pretend to give the plate number to the police - the car usually speeds off with the girl being disgruntled. "Why don't you mind your own business!" she yells. I really can't see any way to rid the neighborhood of this problem. |
Gdub Member Username: Gdub
Post Number: 952 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.15.192
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:12 pm: | |
As the world's 'oldest profession', it will never go away. As Peter Tosh would say, Legalize It! |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1445 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.236.181.70
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:19 pm: | |
Welcome to the board, Devolian. Another great thing that works, besides the cell phone trick, is to snap a couple of digital photos of the offending prostitutes and their customers. Post the photos and descriptions on-line and, with a bit of luck, you've not only deterred the customer from coming back but you'll keep other ones from entering an area where they know they'll get photographed. The prostitutes will unquestionably be upset with you. At that point, I'd offer them a free bus ticket out of town. |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 1638 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 216.203.223.89
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:23 pm: | |
what? They closed the 8th Precinct? So what precinct serves my old part of town now? We're getting shafted in SW Detroit too, they closed 4th, and I've heard reports that our new pubic safety mall will not have police operating out of it... It's hard to imagine ho's operating outta that neighborhood, When I was in HS I worked at Mr Tony's subs on 7 just W. of Tele.. To start, you and your neigjbors should start making videotapes of these folks... |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 622 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:31 pm: | |
The 4th(Fort Green) did close. the new Public safety mall (from my understanding will be one of the most staffed precincts in Detroit. The 3rd precinct will be closing and the officers from over there will be sent to the SW Justice doohickey. This prostitution think is running rampant and you can see them everywhere. I wonder what percentage of suburbanites are coming to Detroit to do their dirty deeds??? |
Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:35 pm: | |
Now, instead of shooting down grand river a mile to book someone, the police have to go all the way down to Plymouth / Southfield. Taking pictures would be a good idea, I'll have to think about that |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 625 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:41 pm: | |
I am a little confused. i thought the 8th remained open. I certainly question the choices made concerning the precinct shutdowns. |
Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:45 pm: | |
No, the 8th is closed, and has been now for some time. http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/po lice/ |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 632 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 9:11 pm: | |
Wow...i was just over there to get my haircut in the next block. They must have been moving cars from the station the other day. I sure thought it was still open. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 1551 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 9:33 pm: | |
I grew up in that neighborhood. It's still a good neighborhood with some really solid citizens still living there. I hadn't been there in a few years and hadn't known the prostitution to have ramped up that much. I'm really saddened to hear it's gone downhill with the influx of the working girls though. I really hope that there's some solution for chasing them off those streets- I hope the "photographing" of them will work; it sounds great and maybe other people in the neighborhood will help with this as well. I do remember coming up Telegraph about twenty years ago during a snowstorm and remembered seeing a woman walking across from the ol' Topinka's Country House. Naively, I couldn't help but think that this was some poor woman with a stranded car somewhere and she walking to find a gas station to make a phone call (this was pre-cell phone days). So instead of heading straight home like a good lad, I decided to pull a Michigan left, loop back and see if this woman needed a lift. I pulled up alongside, rolled down my window and asked if she needed a ride. Needless to say she offered ME a ride (of a different sort!) for $20. I quickly sped out off and felt so sorry for that woman. She was out there in that blowing snow in a thin jacket trudging up Telegraph just trying to make a buck the hard way. Lord knows whatever happened to her but what a sad existence. |
My2cents Member Username: My2cents
Post Number: 119 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.253.67.62
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 9:33 pm: | |
Hmmmm...........supply comes to mind, eh? |
Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 9:44 pm: | |
What do you mean, supply? Supply & demand? Both have balanced nicely to create a perfect market. Smogboy: The area I live in is still a solid area. As long as you're not stupid and don't leave things outside unlocked or chained up, you will be fine. Lot's of old timers on my block, and I especially enjoy talking with the man across the street who has been living there since 1931, when it was all farm. |
Johnnny5 Member Username: Johnnny5
Post Number: 135 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 71.227.95.4
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:44 pm: | |
Unless you're without family and packing I would not suggest harassing hookers or their customers. This is a very shady business and these types of people have no respect for the law or anyone else. My suggestions would be to 1. Make sure all your street lights are functioning. 2. Start a neighborhood watch and post metal signs stating that drugs and prostitution are not welcome in your neighborhood and that you will call the police (make sure they are visible from passing cars and high enough that they are difficult to tear down).An even better method would be to install fake cameras or even just post that there are cameras in the area. Scare away the customers and the girls will move on. |
Dag Member Username: Dag
Post Number: 157 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.241.254.67
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:59 pm: | |
One of the methods that I have heard of being successful in other cities stems from the involvement of our community and spiritual organizations. If you are noticing the problem of the flesh trade then more than likely so are the other people who live in your immediate neighborhood. More than likely, these are the same people who are a part of your congregation and they would have a very strong vested interest not from just a social and living standpoint but also from a spiritual standpoint. The trick, I am told, is for two things to happen. You need an outpouring of support, not only vocally but the actual physical manifestation of support as well: monies, people, resources, etc. The support that you have will allow for you to sustain whatever successes you have. It is imperative that you also have the support and knowledge of the police as well. Inform them of what you are attempting to do and let them know of your meetings and implore them to attend. Secondly, you need publicity. Publicity comes from all sorts whether it be in the form of television or newspaper reporters to simple spreading of flyers and knocking on doors. It is the publicity that will allow for your support stream to be sustained and allow for the “ladies” and their “callers” to know that your neighborhood is an area to avoid. These are just simple words coming from a simple man though. |
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan
Post Number: 225 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 11:06 pm: | |
Expect a massive temporary influx of prostitutes for the Super Bowl. The Sheriff's Dept has been stepping up prostitution busts. The best deterrent again is simply $$$. The police can impound the cars of the johns, and it costs $900 to get it back from the impound. Add to that lawyers fees and any fine imposed by the court, and that $20 BJ you were hoping to score has just turned into a $1400 mistake. Make the risks not worth the reward. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 11:36 pm: | |
"The trick, I am told, is for two things to happen..." What kind of "trick" are we talking about? |
Dag Member Username: Dag
Post Number: 158 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.241.254.67
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 11:39 pm: | |
Oy vey. I set myself up for that replete with plenty of ammo for all. |
Skipp Member Username: Skipp
Post Number: 64 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 24.192.6.193
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:44 am: | |
This sounds kind of crazy, but i would set up some kind of flashing light on my porch, and when i see the shit happening, plug the light in and start walking out to the sidewalk with a bull horn and start harassing them. I couldn't see why those type would want to buisnes with that going on. I'm sure the neighborhood would put up with this a few times, rather then having hookers. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 3029 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 2:32 am: | |
A flashing light? What are you trying to do, give a hooker a seizure? |
Devinc Member Username: Devinc
Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.14.138.74
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 2:37 am: | |
Where exactly do you live? All of my Asian friends are looking for some hookers. (Message edited by devinc on January 16, 2006) |
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289
Post Number: 998 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.183.223
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 3:17 am: | |
The picture thing sounds like your best bet... Just make sure the neighborhood does it too... or you might be singled out by some unwanted company... |
Knocturnal Member Username: Knocturnal
Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.176.50.206
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 3:29 am: | |
bj's aren't $20, I was offered one on 8 mile for $7 just recently. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 1552 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 4:02 am: | |
"bj's aren't $20, I was offered one on 8 mile for $7 just recently." What? Obviously not a bulk rate. Oooo... bad puns galore there! It just goes to show you how desperate these people are to get a few bucks for their drug fixes. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 129.9.163.106
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:28 pm: | |
The Michigan/livernois area is lousy with ho's, and occasionally Grand River between telegraph and Five points (motel Winston, your ho HQ). We see it, the cops don't. |
Corktownmark Member Username: Corktownmark
Post Number: 147 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.61.194.191
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 3:48 pm: | |
To bad Detroit hasn't found a way to move this stuff to non residential areas and away from places we live with our families. |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 860 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 3:53 pm: | |
^^^Troy? Big Beaver would be a natural place. |
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c
Post Number: 602 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.21.62.206
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 4:51 pm: | |
We might as well slide all the homeless shelters, drug treatment clinics, and state-aid programs out that way, too. I noticed Stephenson Highway has alot of available space for lease... |
Skamour14 Member Username: Skamour14
Post Number: 19 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.11.209.163
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:35 pm: | |
You know what the real problem is nowadays.... thes HO's dont really look at all that good, i mean hey if you really want to get some action then go and work in bazoukis or something... I mean i've been in there a few times, most recently with a friend and we got solicited for some good old fashioned "play time" all for a little more than 20 bucks, and you know what, she stays right there, and where i live the hookers work the streets, and the whatnot, they dont care what you do even if you do it a thousand times theyre very persistant, and if you go and take pictures then they go and get the man who supplies the drugs and he gets with you, because your messing with his trade, and now you dont want to go do all that now do you! I just know from hanging out and paying attention, one of these days some folks that i know who read this site will be in the wrong place @ the wrong time and get themsleves hurt, possibally even killed because they got no common sense in dealing and going where all of this happens, And it really dont matter but i know I wouldnt want to see all of that! |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1968 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:45 pm: | |
I like Fnemecek's idea. Post a sign in YOUR yard that says we photograph suspected "johns" and share that with the police...get some neighbors to do it to. I am all for radical tactics. And yes lets legalize...it ain't going to go away. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 636 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:48 pm: | |
Legalize it them tax em. That could work. Get the health department involved and make sure they have the streethookin permits with them to do their work. I can see the the boys in blue checking out the goods to make sure they are up to code!!! |
Skamour14 Member Username: Skamour14
Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.11.209.163
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 7:02 pm: | |
well spoken... well spoken |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 1562 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.84.183.189
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 7:09 pm: | |
I sometimes think about the Heidelberg Project and some of the radical means that Tyree Guyton had to go through in order to get the ugliness off of his street. |
Ericdfan Member Username: Ericdfan
Post Number: 65 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.41.117.60
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 7:50 pm: | |
I understand that it is legal in most of europe..The difference between the HO's here and there is that there they have a designated area of town where they hang out..and they stay there..If we legalized it here they would be all over the fricken place..They don't have enuf restraint over here...I don't really want a how walking up to me every 5 minutes and asking me if I want a "good time". |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 638 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 8:00 pm: | |
Waaaaay back in the day the spoke of a legalized "red zone" comparable to the red light district in Boston, I believe. The attitude toward creating this district was...all is fair in the red zone. So it really meant if you got hurt or killed in the area, it would havebeen your own fault. Ironically the area was slated to be the area in which the stadia are located on today. As of late we are the only ones getting pimped by the local sports teams that reside there. |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 79 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 148.61.248.29
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 8:19 pm: | |
most criminals wouldn't go into the red zone either, but yea, a small strech of area where prostitution would be legal would be good. but even though that would never happen, I hope the hoe problem in that neighborhood gets better. The ideas so far seem like they would work. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 641 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 8:38 pm: | |
Well these ho's are only hoing in the neighbor hood because they want to be near the neighborhood crackhouse. Case in point... There is a a crackhouse, 2 doors down from where i live now. It has been raided 6 times in the past 2 years. I have known the family thatowns the house most of my life. They let the daughter just seize the house and run them out. The daughter has been to jail twice and beat up a few times. They busted her last week so that is the 7th time. everytime they bust the house we get aletter in the mail stating that the house has been busted and wioll be seized the next time they find activity at the house. We have 5 of these postcards now. forget about all of that. The prostitutes are now walking down my street, doing their business and then getting dropped off at the house to get drugs. on many ocassion i can see the same ho come and go in that house up to 10 times a day. I see a lot of Arabic/Chaldean men dropping them off at this house. These guys are probably coming form dearborn which is just a few blocks south of me. we as neighbors have banded to rid our neighborhood of this house as it has been a growing cancer. I see Mackenzie HS students come there daily, the prostitutes and the neighborhood theives. You know the ones that will steal two hubcaps off of every car on the street. These men that steal and rob are deserving of their own thread. |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 1639 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.2.148.187
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:00 am: | |
Broken, Have you or neighbors referred that house to the Wayne County Prosecutor's Drug Forfeiture Unit? Or are the postcards from some other gov't agency? If WCP has not been notified, try dropping an email to this guy: sshollac@co.wayne.mi.us Where there's organized neighbors, there's an eventual end to the problem... |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 651 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:08 am: | |
Yes we have. we even submitted the names of the thieves, the drug runners(area crackheads) and the license plates to the county. The county has raided the place twice. Whats so funny is that 3 times it was raided she wasn't even in the house, its as if she knew she was being raided. About a year ago, one of the crackheads delivered a baby and allegedly flushed it down the toilet. I can't see how this could happen unless she chopped the baby up. Its so sad. |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 723 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.221.39.118
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:16 am: | |
How can a family let a daughter "just seize the house and run them out" ...I mean..??? |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 652 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:30 am: | |
I ask the same thing to myself. And the family has owned this house for at least 35 years. her father ended up buying a house in Rosedale. He was the one who allowed her to move in and eventually take over the house. I hope he didn't think he was helping her. after she was busted one time, he and the family came in and redid the entire house. I was horrified after I saw the way the house looked. This house used to be one of the best on the block. I may take a picture of it tomorrow and put it on he forum and see if I can dig up some old photos of it when it was immaculate. |
Skamour14 Member Username: Skamour14
Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.11.209.163
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:44 am: | |
just like crazy trash... glad i dont have the same problem... fell sorry for those of you that do.. what a shame, but I always say...HELLO If you want better then save up, move out to the better neighborhood, so you dont have to subject yourself to all of that, You only put up with it because your just being lazy, get out , and wait till some rich mogual comes in, buys a few houses and justified gentrification starts to happen, till then I say waft in the crackness of your decision |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 654 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:58 am: | |
Well actually, i am closing on a condo near downtown Detroit. i am committed to staying in the city. as long as i work for the city, i will live in the city. The house I stay in is my mothers(and my childhood home) I do fear that once I leave the vandals will notice that I am not in the house anymore and begin to break in(just like they did before I moved in with her. It is very sad that I know this may happen. tha is why I am trying to rid the street of this problem befor i leave. |
Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:17 am: | |
I was just flipping through the BBC and came across this article: Prostitution 'crackdown' unveiled http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ news/4619098.stm Sounds like a good program. I wish our city had the resources to do programs like this. I can't blame our officers at all - Few months ago I had to call 911 because of a pitbull attack, and the police took over an hour to show up saying they were over 20 calls behind. They can only do so much with the allocated resources. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1446 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.236.165.104
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:24 pm: | |
quote:Few months ago I had to call 911 because of a pitbull attack, and the police took over an hour to show up saying they were over 20 calls behind. They can only do so much with the allocated resources.
Amen! Hopefully, once Super Bowl XL has passed into the history books, we as Detroiters can have a very serious conversation about what needs to happen in the neighborhoods. Downtown is moving along very well as is the Cultural Center area. It's time to start focusing on the rest of Detroit. |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 87 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 206.81.45.34
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:32 pm: | |
Prostitute Laundry I may be a pimp, but I ain't washin' my ho's (ahh... prostitutes) Prostitute Laundry! I may be a pimp, but I ain't washin' my ho's (ahh... prostitutes) Prostitute Laundry! I'm tired of their garter belts and their panty hose I might be their pimp but I ain't washin' my ho's I've been to the laundrymat enough times to know Prostitutes sure got some dirty clothes! I'm their Sugar Daddy not their laundry man! (ahh... prostitutes) Prostitute Laundry! I think I found some stains that I can't understand! (ahh... prostitutes) Prostitute Laundry! |
Observant2art Member Username: Observant2art
Post Number: 191 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 209.104.139.161
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:02 pm: | |
There is so much prostitution going on that there are trans-gender men doing it now. I believe that it is ridiculous, no matter if it is male or female. Palmer Park area is the prime place were I see alot of those trans-gender men walking down Woodward with shorts that look like panties. (DISGUSTING) I hate to see people in these situations, some choose to be this way as if it is the right thing to do. I know this for a fact because I used to catch the Woodward bus to the 6 Mile bus stop. So much of it is still going on. I have passed the 6 Mile and Woodward area going to work in Livonia and I have seen a He/She in the corner. How pathetic! Its so much of that going on in other states and I agree with GDUB, its the OLDEST PROFESSION! How do people deal with themselves? |
Skulker Member Username: Skulker
Post Number: 3398 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.103.104.93
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:32 pm: | |
quote:Lately, everytime I see a prostitute about to hop in someone's car, I walk outside of my house with my cell phone up to my ear. I walk directly behind the car and pretend to give the plate number to the police - the car usually speeds off with the girl being disgruntled.
Uhh....why not ACTUALLY call? Get the tag numbers on record at least. |
Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:32 pm: | |
Skulker: I've called plenty of times. The police don't show, and they can't do anything without actually witnessing the john getting in the car and exchanging money. I've talked with the P.D. and it is very hard to bust people for prostitution. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6452 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.20
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:38 pm: | |
I suggest a Detroityes plan for your neighborhood. We all come to your area with digital cameras. Each time a john comes in we get some pictures and then follow that specific john home. Get the address, then mail the pictures or stop by and see if his family members are interested in seeing the pictures. We can also drop off some of the pictures in neighbors mail boxes. If DPD can't get there we can start an all out campaign to embarass these people in their respective communities. |
Observant2art Member Username: Observant2art
Post Number: 192 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 209.104.139.161
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:39 pm: | |
Devolian, Isn't prostitution legal in Canada? If it is, I wouldn't necessary say that they have it made, it's just PATHETIC. |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 342 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:03 pm: | |
Many "working girls" carry razor blades between their fingers so they can quickly slash a dangerous customer. Don't get too near to the hands. |
Devolian Member Username: Devolian
Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.136.144.231
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:58 pm: | |
Prostitution should be legalized, taxed, and kept to a certain area of the city. Crack dealers should be exterminated or shipped to an uninhibited island somewhere. Crack users should enter a year+ long rehabilitation program and released to another city far away. Repeat criminals should be send to the uninhibited island as well, i suppose. Health care should be nationalized. A massive redistribution of weath is needed in the U.S., so that the top 10% don't own 60%. Just my rants... |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1452 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.236.165.104
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:06 pm: | |
quote:Uhh....why not ACTUALLY call? Get the tag numbers on record at least.
I concur with Skulker on this one. I doubt anything will happen, but it's very good to document everything. The Warrendale Community Organization routinely documents 100+ cases of illegal dumping and such in the neighborhood every month and turns them in to DPD. If nothing else, it will make it more difficult for the politicians to ignore the issue after SBXL.
quote:I suggest a Detroityes plan for your neighborhood.
A fine idea. BTW - y'all are also welcome to come to Warrendale with your digital cameras. Why should I be the only one having all the fun? http://warrendale.blogspot.com / |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 343 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.79.90.206
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:13 pm: | |
Fnemecek: what happens to the list that you turn over to the DPD. I ask because I sent a letter about an urgent neighborhood matter to the Chief of Police on December 12 and have not has the slightest response. On January 3 I sent a copy of that letter to the Chairperson of the Board of Police Commissioners and asked for soemone to respond. But, so far, nothing. I am concerned that this is how the CoD does business - just ignore even serious, professional communication. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1454 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.236.165.104
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:26 pm: | |
So far, the list hasn't produced any measurable results. However, as you continue doing it, it eventually builds up enough public pressure that DPD and the Mayor are forced to act. Regarding your letter, more than likely it was routed to someone else within DPD for a response. I recommend sending a copy of it to Chief Cummings along with a cover letter reminding her that you haven't heard from her. |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 874 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:29 pm: | |
While the car owner is being "serviced" paint his car orange. The more I think about it, IF you can sneak up on the car, paint the licensee plate day glow orange. The will certainly attract the attention of the police as they are driving. (and they wouldn't know why they are stopped.) I am sure a lot of illegal substances would be found too. It’s just a little way of showing the customers of the trades that someone is watching them. A whole new form of tagging (Message edited by Psip on January 17, 2006) |
Dodgemain Member Username: Dodgemain
Post Number: 78 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 68.41.191.58
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:36 pm: | |
You could do it with war game paint guns from a distance. |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 875 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:44 pm: | |
Remote control painter. Tagging from the comfort of your easy chair with little chance of getting caught. With the proper tools you can accomplish this, What Police person wouldn't want to stop this clown driving down the street? |
Corktownmark Member Username: Corktownmark
Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.61.194.191
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:52 pm: | |
PSIP you have solved the problem ^^^^ now who will bell the cat. |
Dodgemain Member Username: Dodgemain
Post Number: 79 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 68.41.191.58
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:24 pm: | |
PSIP, now that this is solved, can we adapt this to go after the remaining CIA Mindboxes? |
Psip
Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 878 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.13.131
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:31 pm: | |
I will have to put on my thinking cap on. ^^^ not really me |
Paulj Member Username: Paulj
Post Number: 325 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.233.5.39
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:47 pm: | |
Skulkers notion is the right one, however my experience of the reality in this town tells me not to waste my breath. -Paulj, who after being *shot* at phoned 911 and was asked 'what do you want me to do? you need to go to the precinct and make a report!' Maybe someday, in post-SBXL Detroit, we can all live in a city where one calls the police and they show up in a somewhat timely manner. I've reported a burglary in progress, several thefts, a few aggressive/drunk/open intox drivers, and even my shooting incident to 911 in my years here. On the occasions where I did actually get graced by the presence of a boy in blue, I was *still* told to go down to the precinct & make my report there (except on the burglary in progress, to be fair). I have enough case numbers over here to fill the S section of the phone book, and have never, ever recieved a call back from an investigator. my final conclusion? Either go the 'pack-a-piece' route, or stay outta the way... And short of alerting a vocal/well organized neighborhood group or ruth-to-the-rescue, fhagettabout your prostitution woes as they fall way off to the side of the radar screen in this place. My house is on the market if anyones looking... |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 85 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:09 am: | |
What is that callsign on his shirt - KO2UFO? |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1458 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.212.229.100
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:27 pm: | |
Psip: If anyone starts manufacturing those painting remote control cars, I'll buy them. I could use them, not only for tagging johns but drug dealers & buyers as well. |
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin
Post Number: 3410 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.192.149
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:00 pm: | |
Hoes gotta eat, wanna get high/drunk (can you spell: cheap (FSC) beer), & pay bills like everyone else .... btw: what's difference between a Ho & your (soccer-mom) Wife that gets that new washer/dryer, etc. or that girl/boy friend that gets the free dinners, etc.???? Black-atcha .... |
Bostedguy Member Username: Bostedguy
Post Number: 333 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 68.61.196.140
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:10 pm: | |
What an idiotic post. |
Bongman Member Username: Bongman
Post Number: 912 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:01 pm: | |
I knew a guy who got assigned to vice, and volunteered to go undercover on 8 Mile as a He/She prostitute. He ended up liking it, immediately retired, and he's still out there. I've been propositioned on 8 mile, 11 mile, Macomb Mall, Mt. Clemens....it's not just a city problem, but johns know the over-all risk of getting caught is much lower in the city. There used to be a dwarf who worked steady at Woodward & Clay. She'd get right on the floor and let you keep driving if you had a tilt wheel. I think there are more women out there than just hookers who would be interested in some type of "sex for money" arrangement. I've been hearing of some strange tales from the front lately. Legalize it. |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 666 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.136.139.223
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:49 pm: | |
Ummmm..Bongman...sounds like you put yourself out there buddy!!! |
Xphillipjrx Member Username: Xphillipjrx
Post Number: 112 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.75.240.133
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:02 pm: | |
Somebody should start a blog, shoot pictures of johns' cars and post them there. Unfortunately, people are always looking to jump on the latest bad press out of the D. Use this to your advantage and have people from around the country logging on to look for the latest posts. Whatever happened to the City's cable access program where they showed faces of busted johns? |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 671 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.136.139.223
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:06 pm: | |
I remember that...It was called John TV. Thatwas one of the funniest shows. |
Compn Member Username: Compn
Post Number: 51 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 65.29.121.215
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 7:49 pm: | |
why not mail the channel 2 problem solvers if you cant get a response from DPD about the crack house? http://www.fox2detroit.com/dynamic/story.asp?category=59 (Message edited by compn on January 23, 2006) |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 745 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:16 pm: | |
I just might do that. The other night another "john" getting his BJ so the crackhead ho could get another hit. 3 weeks and i am out of this neighborhood. |