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Renf
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This former Hungarian church is located at the
intersection of South and Harbaugh just off
Dearborn in Delray. Does anyone know anything
about its history? How did the founders of this
church differ from those who built the impressive
Holy Cross Hungarian church just down the block
on South - a church that survives .
Thanks.
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Lowell
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI
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Lowell
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is no longer a Hungarian Catholic Church. Instead it has this cryptic name, or letters are missing. [Dinner Served on Wed. & Sun.]
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Barnesfoto
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Closed in the mid eighties, I believe it was an orthadox church while the Holy Cross was Roman Catholic.
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Ddaydave
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

one of the local detroit blogs had pictures of this church and a write up on it over the summer ..I`m looking for it I cant seem to find it..
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Gannon
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Probably NOT missing letters without purpose, Lowell. Strong superstitions surround the name of the Deity...whether to ever commit it to print, since it is NEVER to be destroyed. I'd bet this sign assembler was leaning towards the conservative on this call...
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Kathleen
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A Google search shows that "Jehovah-Jir H" (or "Jehovah Jireh") means "the Lord Who Will Provide." In the photo, you can see that the "E" in "J HOVAH" has fallen, but the rest of the letters are intact.

As for the origins of this Hungarian church, which I have long wondered about, but not strongly enough to do the research, two suggestions, if anyone wants to follow up....contact the pastor at Holy Cross Hungarian up the street, or the DPL's Burton Collection.

More Hungarians in Detroit resources: http://groups.msn.com/Hungaria nsOnTheNet/hungariansindetroit .msnw
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The_aram
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

Closed in the mid eighties, I believe it was an orthadox church while the Holy Cross was Roman Catholic.




I don't think it was an Orthodox church. I'll do some research on it, but I'm almost certain there's no way there was an Orthodox church down there.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of course, we had this discussion before...about 6 months ago....
https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/23585/47456.html
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Mplsryan
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd say it is/was an orthodox (eastern)church judging by the greek crosses bracketing the name in the picture. The domes are also a dead giveaway with their crosses and design.
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Hamtramck_steve
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those crosses could indicate it was an eastern-rite church and still not an Orthodox church, though.
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Alexei289
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 12:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

... Ukranian Catholic churches have that same cross...
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The_aram
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 3:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep. Eastern Rite Catholicism is essentially Orthodox ritual with Papal recognition, as I understand it. An Eastern-style cross is not an indication of it being an Orthodox church.
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Hamtramck_steve
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's true only if the eastern church in question follows the Byzantine Rite.
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Barnesfoto
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How can it be an eastern church? Everybody knows that Delray is in Southwest Detroit!

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