Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 742 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.201
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 5:46 pm: | |
quote:Five Americans injured in a terrorist bombing in Jerusalem have laid claim to artifacts at the Detroit Institute of Arts and the University of Michigan to partially satisfy a $71.5 million judgment they won against the Iranian government. http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20051209/METRO /512090351&SearchID=7322905615 4338
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William_x Member Username: William_x
Post Number: 60 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.48.115
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 6:14 pm: | |
Lilpup There is so much hate towards each other until hate turns into a fight because of many dislikes.A perfect example is the United Snakes of Murders aka Bush Inc.Why in the hell is the troops fighting over in Iran,Iraq,and the entire middle east? Because nobody here in America wants to admit that Daddy Bush and Baby Bush was wrong,and now their enemies is striking back.George Bush Jr lied when he claimed Iraq had dangerous weapons,but none was found in Iraq. So by Daddy Bush & his Republicians losing Desert Storm,the old bastard told the President that Saddam was behind the WTC bombing,and the person Bush Jr should have went after should have been his ex best friend Osama.In closing Americans should not be over there period,bring the men and women home,and Bush Jr should stop starting shit everywhere he goes.Bush wants oil and he is willing to pay for it with our Sons and Daughters lifes,and where is his dopehead Daughters at? |
The_aram Member Username: The_aram
Post Number: 4546 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 6:50 pm: | |
What does that racist and grammatically incorrect rant have to do with the article posted? |
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa
Post Number: 63 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 198.103.184.76
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 7:01 pm: | |
Subject meet verb.... Now back to the article: I find it appalling that these American plaintiffs would go after antiquities in venerable American institutions. Do the plaintiffs actually believe they are punishing Iran by suing Harvard, U-M and the DIA? Of course not, they are just looking to make a buck. Iran's compliance in state-sponsored terror aside, these antiquities now belong to highly respected American institutions and should remain so for the benefit of all Americans (and the rest of the world) to see. |
Huggybear Member Username: Huggybear
Post Number: 92 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 70.233.6.56
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:23 am: | |
Wow. What's next? Going after Persian rugs in people's houses, too? |
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289
Post Number: 901 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.183.223
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:46 am: | |
well... heres the thing... They might eventually claim ownership of them (godforbid) The DIA and co will still get to keep these assets but have to pay out a percentage of their ticket sales to these plainiffs for eternity. Basically it puts ownership in there hands therefore they will set their own rules to show them off. Chances are they will find the museum that will pay them the most to show them off... Still fuking bullshit... but thats what would happen. |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 2058 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.138.31.188
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:07 pm: | |
If anything this might protect the Iranian objects in the DIA. Why would the Iranian govt. ever attempt to lay claim to them when, if they went through the expense of litigating the claim and won, they could then lose them to this settlement. |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 276 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.2.48
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:30 pm: | |
I suggest we drop the plaintiffs off in Tehran and wish them a good day...what a bunch of worthless pieces of crap they are! |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 626 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 4.165.99.227
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:33 pm: | |
Absurd. The DIA should file a counter suit alleging that by being in a dangerous place and becoming victims of Iranian-backed violence, the plantiffs made America look weak and stupid, hampering future DIA efforts to obtain artwork from around the globe. |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 278 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.2.48
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:40 pm: | |
Great 1953! |
William_x Member Username: William_x
Post Number: 73 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.105.108
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 1:24 pm: | |
the_aram I see you are trying to be a pain in the ass with your negetive posts and replies.I suggest that you back your ass up from posting ANYTHING to me if you can't come correct.I am probley older then you are,and you need to learn some respect before you get dis respected.WHATEVER I want to post just as long as its my Opinion,and its not being a racist its okay to post my opinion,and if you don't like it that don't sign on under neither one of your names to harrass people.Whatever I submitted is my opinion,and I will not allow clowns like you to kill my spirit.Lowell you see this person spitting venom in each post,and I did not join this forum to be attacked by a internet punk. Now the_aram reply to what I just posted. |
Jjw Member Username: Jjw
Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 68.33.206.90
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 1:34 pm: | |
no personal attack William---but you really do need to take an English class. I do agree with your opinions on the Bush family. We (Americans) are lethargic when it comes to the lies that have been fed to us by our federal goveernment. But, I do think many Americans who voted for Mr. Bush are starting to realize that they made have made a mistake. To bad it is so late. The problems we will face as a nation will last for a very long time because of his lies. |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 279 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.2.48
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 1:57 pm: | |
"Why in the hell is the troops fighting over in Iran" That sums up the level of discourse... I bet if you keep saying it, there are people on this sight that will beleive that the troops are fighting in Iran...get an education man. |
Gdub Member Username: Gdub
Post Number: 914 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.15.192
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:09 pm: | |
"...there are people on this sight (sic) that will beleive(sic) that the troops are fighting in Iran...get an education man." Enough said. |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 280 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.2.48
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:11 pm: | |
Ok Gdub, You get an education...and I'll get a spell checker. Nuff said! |
Shave Member Username: Shave
Post Number: 983 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:37 pm: | |
Jjw-atcha: "no" (starting a sentence with a lower-case letter) "goveernment"(sic) "made have made" (???????) "To bad it is so late" ("TOO bad it is TOO late.") Anyway, this has got to be one of the most vivid displays of American greed (right up there with the "War on Terror"). |
The_aram Member Username: The_aram
Post Number: 4551 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 4:25 pm: | |
William_x, thanks for proving my point. What's wrong with the American educational system? Or was William_x too stubborn thinking he was wronged by The Man to pay attention to how to write proper English? |
Super_d Member Username: Super_d
Post Number: 424 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.195
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:54 pm: | |
Y'all be tripp'in__ I's glad I's speak Ebonically correct. ......"has nothing to do with correct grammer and syntax, which are of no importance so long as one makes one's meaning clear"..... --james orwell-- 'Willaim_x' the grim haters of Black potential are the ones whose lanquage is most opprobrious. super d(motordetroit) |
Gdub Member Username: Gdub
Post Number: 916 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.15.192
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 1:31 pm: | |
Ouch! irishmafia, I can't bear the sting of your wicked barbs! Please, have mercy on my fragile, uneducated mind. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1824 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 1:33 pm: | |
William X - Don't mind Aram he is a snotty little priviledged kid at U of M. He is trying to show us how smart he is by trying to put you down. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 1896 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.163.181.81
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 2:29 pm: | |
so what are the the DIA and UoM doing with apparently looted artifacts? If they don't have a clear claim of ownership to the objects what are they doing showin 'em off ... what if someone with a jury award against the CoD took claim of, say, the looted Lee Plaza lions or maybe a Deroit manhole cover used as an object d'art in a suburban rec room-cum-art studio? ... hey! more power to 'em right? ... I'm sorry but "we stole these fair and square, steal yer own stuff somewhere else" rings false ... |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 700 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.219.103.48
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 2:33 pm: | |
quote:... I'm sorry but "we stole these fair and square, steal yer own stuff somewhere else" rings false ...
tell that to the british with their parthenon pediment... |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 1897 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.163.181.81
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 2:48 pm: | |
... okay ... so does "hey those guys did it too, why are you pickin' on us?" justify the apparent theft? |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 701 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.219.103.48
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 2:59 pm: | |
no really...tell that to the british. i wasn't using it as a justification for us... (well, and to point out that's how most countries got their "anitquities") |
William_x Member Username: William_x
Post Number: 89 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 4.165.45.73
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 7:34 pm: | |
The_Aram I can tell that you a wannabe nerd with <o^o> glasses. Well I hope U of M teaches you to learn the Education is a longgg ways from street senses.However I see how you was selected to attend the U of M,and you better be thankful you have a green card. |
The_nerd Member Username: The_nerd
Post Number: 266 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 192.5.109.49
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 8:08 pm: | |
I don't fancy the idea of using the American judicial system to further one's foreign policy goals. I'm sorry that these people were injured, but it sets a bad example that could be used worldwide for political aims. God forbid "victims" of American actions use their home country's judicial system to confiscate American property. I thought we learned the lessons of forcing nations to pay for military actions at Versailles. |
The_aram Member Username: The_aram
Post Number: 4560 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 8:42 pm: | |
quote:and you better be thankful you have a green card.
You're quite the master with the biting wit, aren't you? My family has been in this country for 100 years now. Nice try, though. Lowell, how much longer are we going to keep this racist clown around here? |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 1828 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.40.105.21
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 9:17 pm: | |
Aram - He just makes your feel uncomfortable with thoughts that gather in the cob webs of your mind. Don't let it get to you...maybe you will learn something. Everyone can contribute something to any discussion. Just open your mind. |
Machoken Member Username: Machoken
Post Number: 1073 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.62.2.248
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 11:23 pm: | |
This is the kind of thread that makes me want to join hotfudgedetroit, sit down on one of their plush couches, roll my own and smoke a nice big fatty with Andy. |
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289
Post Number: 902 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.183.223
| Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:05 am: | |
so ANYWHO..... Even IF the suit were to be allowed to continue... the statuate of limitations means that the DIA owns em fair and square... They ARE NOT property of Iran... in any WAY SHAPE OR FORM... If that were the case, Michigan would still be part of Canada. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1366 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.255.237.192
| Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:41 am: | |
Alexei289: Nice transition. Yes, I'd have to say that the statue of limitations expired before any of the five defendants from NY were even born. |