  Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4289 Registered: 11-2007 |
We desperately need to bring manufacturing back to our shores. And, I get the feeling that most of the Wall Street bankers will flee the country, if we have to deal with China in a military showdown. quote: UPI story here | ||
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath Post Number: 962 Registered: 05-2006 |
Good thing they loaned us all that money to fight the war in Iraq- that was money well spent. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 3521 Registered: 02-2007 |
Gearing up to collect, better acquire a taste for rice. Isn't a "global economy" wonderful? Such idiots to allow this. Any 9 year old with a calculator could have predicted it better. Now they are telling us what to do. Does anyone realize what is happening? | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4293 Registered: 11-2007 |
This has been a thirty year slide into economic oblivion. A rational person can hardly be faulted for any conspiracy theories now. But the past eight years have have been the worst. | ||
Otter Member Username: Otter Post Number: 690 Registered: 12-2007 |
Stashm, What did China "(tell) us to do"? What do you think is happening? O. | ||
Glowblue Member Username: Glowblue Post Number: 199 Registered: 09-2008 |
The US and China will never get into a war. Haven't you people ever heard of ICBMs? | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8769 Registered: 02-2007 |
there is always the spectre of China's steel industry causing trouble for our military: "If we continue to lose our manufacturing base due to market-distorting foreign competition or U.S. economic policies that are hostile to domestic investment and U.S.-based manufacturing, it could become impossible to produce here," say the groups in a 28-page study. "The U.S. military would lose its principal source of strategic metals and we as a nation would become dangerously dependent upon unreliable foreign sources of supply." from Manufacturing & Technology News Jan 23, 2007 http://www.ssina.com/news/rele ases/pdf_releases/steel_and_na tional_defense_0107.pdf. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 3522 Registered: 02-2007 |
Quote: "China took exception and told the United States to "drop the Cold War thinking."" Then this: "China has become increasingly vocal about what it perceives as Washington’s mismanagement of the global economy and financial system," http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03 /14/world/asia/14china.html?re f=todayspaper Screw China. They have violated copyright and patents in this country like they didn't even exist. They have decimated this country's manufacturing sector, now they may lose their (our) money? They made a bad investment? Shit happens, F' em', I have zero sympathy for them, hope they lose every nickel. The pinata is broken and depleted, the party is over. Their exports are down 23%? Good. Silver lining in every cloud. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19663 Registered: 11-2006 |
Bottom line, they look after what is in the best interest, and we need to do the same. In our case, our best interest is liberty and capitalism. | ||
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field Post Number: 1863 Registered: 01-2008 |
21st century China is Nixon's revenge on America. Yet the US has successfully embargoed tiny Communist Cuba for over 40 years. The US should have imported their cigars and sugar cane, and embargoed China instead. We are very likely inextricably tied to them now, and they have US by the balls. Can't fund the economy or our WOT w/o them. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19668 Registered: 11-2006 |
Look at what American companies are getting in these deals. Does anyone believe that deals are made just out of spite to America? Of course not, the deal are more competitive...that is where efforts need to be expended. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4295 Registered: 11-2007 |
quote: No, I think the deals are done strictly for the benefit of the 10% of upper management. I don't think Bernie Madoff did anything out of spite towards our Nation. His was just pure, evil, human greed. | ||
Glowblue Member Username: Glowblue Post Number: 200 Registered: 09-2008 |
quote: Don't rage againt China. The moneyed elite, who know no national allegiance, are working to exploit and opress the workers of both China and America. IOW, your interests probably align more with a Chinese laborer than with an American millionaire. | ||
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field Post Number: 1864 Registered: 01-2008 |
quote: Perhaps cheap holographic rehab physicians are on the horizon?  | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 3525 Registered: 02-2007 |
Quote: "Don't rage againt China." The Chinese government has been manipulating their currency. They own half of every company there. You're right about the scumbags in this country pushing these trade deals for personal gain, but it was only possible with an equally malicious Chinese government. They over-harvested this country and now we'll all pay the price for it. Should have never been allowed to happen. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19681 Registered: 11-2006 |
2 parties interacting to their own best interests with laws to insure that the interactions are just...a simple system that works every time. Blaming the Chinese for the consequences of American liberal socialism is not a solution. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4302 Registered: 11-2007 |
Maybe because of the growing military imbalance in Asia, Korea and Japan should step up to the plate and use more of their GDP on military spending. Our Congress should clear the way for Japan to amend their constitution for this fact. "We have never actually been to war, and there are many things that we want to learn from the U.S. soldiers," Sawai said after addressing his troops and several hundred U.S. National Guard soldiers who came to his base from Kentucky for the 11-day maneuvers. It was a striking contrast: Many of the American guardsmen have been sent to war zones two or three times, while no Japanese soldier has fired a bullet in combat since Tokyo's 1945 surrender ended World War II _ thanks largely to a pacifist constitution written by U.S. occupiers to keep Japan from rearming. Constitutional restrictions have barred the military from acquiring an aircraft carrier or some air-to-air refueling capabilities needed for long-range strikes, which are crucial for the projection of force but are considered too aggressive to meet the constitutional defense-only rules. Unlike China's double-digit defense spending growth, Japan's has remained flat for years. China has for years outspent Japan _ $70 billion to $49 billion in 2009." We can't afford to be their bodyguard anymore. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1797 Registered: 12-2007 |
For the record CC...if I ever saw you in your busted out van and sweatpants in all your glory, I wouldn't hide behind a computer like you would. You would know exactly what I think of you | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4635 Registered: 02-2007 |
for the record how could we have become a socialist country in 90 days cc? | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1798 Registered: 12-2007 |
Obama has been reading 'Socialism for Dummies' | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19716 Registered: 11-2006 |
D_mcc...you are crossing the line there. Better watch it. Gibran...we were too socialistic before Obama. Add in Trillions of dollars (from the government) and trillions more proposed to come...and you have the answer...very clearly. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1801 Registered: 12-2007 |
How am I crossing the line? I wouldn't need to hide behind a computer to call you a brainwashed buffoon to your face... | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19718 Registered: 11-2006 |
Personal attacks and threats...see rules, paragraph 4, first sentence. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1802 Registered: 12-2007 |
How is that a threat??? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19720 Registered: 11-2006 |
Confrontation and the promise of verbal assaults if you ever saw me. This isn't plain and obvious to you? | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1804 Registered: 12-2007 |
No...Apparently not. You just seem like the type that wouldn't engage in an intelligent discussion if you didn't have a keyboard in front of you to hide behind. If you need to project any veiled threats upon that, be my guest... | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4338 Registered: 11-2007 |
quote: Hell yeah. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 2081 Registered: 11-2003 |
After he just got done calling me a name, he is hiding behind rules? Also, did D_mcc say "verbal"? Also, also, D_mcc, why did you imply that the hiding behind a keyboard is producing engagement in intelligent discussion? | ||
20043_stotter Member Username: 20043_stotter Post Number: 864 Registered: 03-2007 |
Getting ready to snitch on him, doctor????????? | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4639 Registered: 02-2007 |
cc I am begining to understand ...here is commrade Bush..visiting china  | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19729 Registered: 11-2006 |
Sigh..EastDetroit, what name do you allege that I called you? Where and when did this occur? Notice, that I, unlike you, make it very clear where the infraction occurred and why. | ||
Otter Member Username: Otter Post Number: 692 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are y'all looking forward to graduating form junior high school? O. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19743 Registered: 11-2006 |
Point well taken Otter. Note I am in defensive mode here however. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4354 Registered: 11-2007 |
From The Times March 30, 2009 Chinese hackers ‘using ghost network to control embassy computers’ quote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t ol/news/uk/crime/article599625 3.ece | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1813 Registered: 12-2007 |
I love a good ole fashioned arms race. Its funny, we probably do to other countries what china is doing to us, yet we get all pissy when someone turns the tables on us... | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 4661 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Well, that's because our liberal socialist President Obama has severely weakened our defense capabilities. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1814 Registered: 12-2007 |
We need a strong leader in these times of peril, Glorious Leader will save us! | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 4662 Registered: 10-2003 |
TERROR! | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1815 Registered: 12-2007 |
TEAR THAT SCHITT DO.... Wrong thread... | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19766 Registered: 11-2006 |
One allegedly China based cyber attack versus how many domestic varieties? |
