  Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 5964 Registered: 02-2004 |
Amazing. http://www.thedailyshow.com/ All parts of the interview are here | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8672 Registered: 02-2007 |
Why can't main-stream newsfolk, including Newshour, hold these guys' asses to the flame like that? They constantly let them get away with rhetorical fallacies and other methods of dodging the question and rarely ask obvious follow-up questions (yes, Gwen, I mean you) | ||
Mopardan Member Username: Mopardan Post Number: 265 Registered: 11-2008 |
It's been a real winning streak for CNBC: Santelli, Cramer...who's next? The clowns on "Fast Money"? | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 1303 Registered: 08-2006 |
This was a serious hit piece. Fair enough. John Stewart criticized the fact that Cramer wasn't more critical of Bear Stearns, AIG, and their financial peers. Too bad Stewart didn't take this a step further and suggest that politicians who accepted campaign funding and inaugural party contributions from these recipients of corporate welfare resign if they don't give those contributions back. | ||
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath Post Number: 953 Registered: 05-2006 |
Why is it Comedy Central and the Daily Show are the ones who actually have the balls to tell it like it is, remember when Stewart smacked down conservative shill Tucker Carlson? A classic. | ||
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath Post Number: 954 Registered: 05-2006 |
Why is it Comedy Central and the Daily Show are the ones who actually have the balls to tell it like it is, remember when Stewart smacked down conservative shill Tucker Carlson? A classic. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1726 Registered: 12-2007 |
Because CBS, NBC, and ABC are all owned by Major political contributors... | ||
Wally Member Username: Wally Post Number: 592 Registered: 12-2003 |
quote:Did he use his finger to stabilize it during the hand-off?  | ||
Islandman Member Username: Islandman Post Number: 2003 Registered: 08-2004 |
That was awesome ORF! I have only had time to watch the first one..moving on to the next. | ||
Atwater Member Username: Atwater Post Number: 404 Registered: 09-2007 |
This is meant as a serious question- what exactly is Jim Cramer's "sin"? What did he do that makes him a villain? There are a lot of people to blame for the current economic mess, but I don't see how he's one of them. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4177 Registered: 11-2007 |
Didn't he offer, on air, that he can manipulate the market, back in '06, and that the SEC could not touch him ? I used to like his radio show. Not anymore. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2964 Registered: 08-2007 |
That was the whole problem with him. He knew the sneaky tricks, and was caught on camera from 2006 when he ran a hedge fund discussing how to do it admitting he did it even though it was shady because he knew he could get away with it. Then he let the money system managers off the hook when he interviewed them on his show. The whole premise was to use him to illustrate the way the major networks let the banking system off the hook. I thought he came off pretty well for being gut shot in front of millions of people. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 5113 Registered: 11-2005 |
quote: Yes, Jon showed clips of that during the interview. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 6795 Registered: 12-2005 |
The Comedy Central website experienced a 400% increase in traffic today. LOL! | ||
Atwater Member Username: Atwater Post Number: 405 Registered: 09-2007 |
So it sounds to me like he himself didn't do anything wrong, it's more people are taking their frustration out on him because he knows how to play the market, and played it and made money playing it, and bragged about making money playing it, and knows the banking people personally and hasn't come out against them or been tough with them in interviews? | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2965 Registered: 08-2007 |
If you listen to the clips, you will see him telling someone (in 2006) how to unethically AND illegally manipulate the market, and admit that he can do it because the regulators don't understand it. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19382 Registered: 11-2006 |
Why doesn't he (Stewart) pick on someone his own size? | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 5965 Registered: 02-2004 |
For some reason, there are gullible people who watch his television show and shows like them (it's all CNBC runs) and are influenced and lost a lot of money. Maybe he's their talking monkey, but maybe he'll shut up a bit now and be more responsible for his words and actions. He looked like a deer in the headlights by the end of the interview. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1402 Registered: 05-2007 |
quote: Not the subject matter of the interview. A myriad of different topics are discussable, but why should they have been covered in this particular interview? | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 1310 Registered: 08-2006 |
Vetalalalumni, It's Stewart's show. He can do what he wants with it. The subject of the interview was that Cramer had covered for, participated in, and been a benificary of the corruption surrounding major financial institutions. Stewart did a good job of laying that out. However, Stewart ignored the elephant in the room. The Obama administration has conducted a policy of singling out and attacking its vocal critics. Cramer, although claiming to have voted for Obama, has been scathing in his criticism of Obama's economic efforts such as cap and trade taxation and Porkulus. Stewart, played the roll of inquisitor rather than comedian and was well supplied with obscure material to take down Cramer. I don't object to that but suspect a relationship between Stewart's mugging of Cramer and the administration's policy of attacking it's critics. Meanwhile, securities and investment companies donated $3.7M to the inauguration. Many of these same companies are receiving taxpayer life support. It was unseemly as was the $955k Obama, received from Goldman Sachs during the campaign. (Or the $377k McCain received from Merrill Lynch) In short, Cramer is a relatively small fish in the corruption that has enveloped our political and economic leadership. I suspect he was taken down for daring to criticize bigger fish. Samples of the sort of the programing that put Cramer in the crosshairs. - http://www.youtube.com/results ?search_type=&search_query=Cra mer+obama&aq=f | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1729 Registered: 12-2007 |
Ola...You do realize that Stewart has railed against Democrats and Republicans alike | ||
Oladub Member Username: Oladub Post Number: 1311 Registered: 08-2006 |
Yes, I've seen him do so but I haven't ever seen him depart so far from humor to try to destroy someone like that. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19401 Registered: 11-2006 |
Cramer is a piker (and likely a moderate lib). However,no economist, in their right mind...even a lib...could throw away basic principles and get behind Obama's socialist economic agenda. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1403 Registered: 05-2007 |
quote: And Cramer could have foregone the opportunity to be a guest on Stewart's show. It was therefore apropos that quote: quote: And the inquisitor role was funny, a comedian's goal. The show writers are supposed to develop funny material. Regarding Cramer, he only offered pitiful excuses and earned little sympathy while enduring being "taken down". quote: What did Stewart rob from Cramer? Cramer availed himself did he not? Who hatched this nefarious plot? quote: Darn! Is there no honor among thieves? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19419 Registered: 11-2006 |
Stewart picked the low lying fruit. He has declined an offer to meet with Mark Levin, why do you think that is? | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1407 Registered: 05-2007 |
quote: quote: Cramer's sin was criticism. The "Disher" should be prepared to be "dished" on. Cramer volunteered himself to criticism because he himself is analytically critical. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 5969 Registered: 02-2004 |
Mark Levin is not serious, he's a fringe lunatic. You might as well have Lyndon LaRouche on the show. Cramer is on television every day, selling his goods, and was fair game. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1409 Registered: 05-2007 |
Mark Hemingway (National Review) defends Cramer and decries Stewart. Turns it around into a critique of the Obama Administration. Questions if Stewart, outclassed, would dare go after Warren Buffet (who is not a TV mouthpiece). http://article.nationalreview. com/?q=ODgwOGM1MGNhNzA5NjFiODh lMDg4NGEyYzhkODFlYjQ= | ||
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm Post Number: 786 Registered: 10-2003 |
The thing that makes Stewart's actions so "respected" is that he doesn't do it very often. Billo, Rush, and Keith stick their necks out so often when they actually hit on something it isn't news. Stewart's taken after someone every two years so when he does it, it's enough out of character that it's unique. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 4200 Registered: 11-2007 |
Thanks, Vetalalumni for using the "National Review" as a source for commentary. I'd put that up there with Rush, as far as even handed "quotes". | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 7890 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: He didn't ask you? | ||
Sturge Member Username: Sturge Post Number: 280 Registered: 05-2007 |
I could find no credible source where Stewart turned down Levin. I really couldn't blame him though. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 3460 Registered: 02-2007 |
Jon Stewart is a political activist hiding behind a horrible comedy schtik. A comedian attacking someone and potentially damaging their career? It's malicious and quite obvious his intentions. He should work on being funny, he might get off of a cable channel finally. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1416 Registered: 05-2007 |
quote: If true, and by this definition, then which comedic TV personality is not a political activist at one time or another? quote: If Stewart verbally assaulted Cramer, then what is it that Cramer has done for years? And why sympathy for Cramer? He put himself in the position he is in. Smart and resourceful, he should not have much difficulty with his career. quote: Calling someone out on the carpet is malicious? And just what exactly are Stewart's intentions? quote: Stewart already is funny, though he could also improve like anyone else. quote: Cable works well for Stewart right now. If and when he ever leaves cable, he'd have lose some of his edge. (Message edited by vetalalumni on March 15, 2009) | ||
Benfield Member Username: Benfield Post Number: 142 Registered: 06-2008 |
quote: That's horrible. Could you imagine someone like Thomas Nast doing that?  | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19425 Registered: 11-2006 |
Mark Levin aired the conversation with Stewart's (he calls him by his birth name, Leibowitz) people when they declined. Quite entertaining. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1423 Registered: 05-2007 |
Thomas Clarke resigned Friday as CEO of TheStreet.com, the online financial news site co-founded by Cramer. quote: http://www.marketwatch.com/new s/story/jim-cramers-bad-week-j ust/story.aspx?guid=(3E1D0490- E487-44FF-B1A1-DBB889EC2515) quote: quote: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/a rticle/20090313/FREE/903139975 | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19446 Registered: 11-2006 |
Never paid him (Cramer) any attention myself. Loud mouthed and wrong in almost every prediction. Why does he have a show again? | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1424 Registered: 05-2007 |
Both Cramer and Stewart have shows, among other reasons, because their existence is not based upon your approval or opinion. Same for all other newspaper, radio or TV media that thankfully does not revolve around the choices of any one individual. Are you not for free market in this context? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19474 Registered: 11-2006 |
I did not suggest that he should be censored or removed from the air. I questioned the appeal to the public. | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1431 Registered: 05-2007 |
quote: The appeal you question is a market factor, is it not? Do you only understand the free market when it aligns with your views? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19485 Registered: 11-2006 |
I don't know what compels people to choose what they choose. It is not a matter of questioning the system, they (free markets) are just fine. I am wondering what is/was appealing about Cramer. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 1328 Registered: 05-2006 |
The same thing that is appealing about all the horrible reality shows, and nutjobs like conservatives Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity. People like to watch someone else's train wreck. I never could understand some folk's taste in shows. (Message edited by detroitej72 on March 17, 2009) | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 1434 Registered: 05-2007 |
quote: Maybe you lack empathy? | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 2142 Registered: 03-2006 |
Comedy Central is owned by CBS (Viacom) | ||
Sid Member Username: Sid Post Number: 88 Registered: 12-2003 |
What motivated Cramer to go on the show? He got his ass chewed, and knew he would; won't attract ratings for his type of show in doing so. I would think he attracts people who see him as know-er of all (the premise of the show). Why did he do it? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19512 Registered: 11-2006 |
On this issue, I definitely lack empathy. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 1336 Registered: 05-2006 |
Ego? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19536 Registered: 11-2006 |
Is that (ego) bad in your opinion? | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 8731 Registered: 02-2007 |
can you comprehend that 1)ego is necessary but that 2)ego must be tempered by humility? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19560 Registered: 11-2006 |
Irrelevant comment Rb. Notice the question was directed at Detroitej72. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1744 Registered: 12-2007 |
Cc...Do you have a life??? | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 3789 Registered: 06-2008 |
"Cc...Do you have a life???" Not anymore after HFMC laid off part of their nursing staff | ||
1kielsondrive Member Username: 1kielsondrive Post Number: 1106 Registered: 08-2008 |
John Stewart is one of the best journalists on television. It's ironic that his is a comedy show and yet his interviewing and questioning are far better and much more incisive than most any other 'news' shows on teevee, including the whole bunch of sunday morning talk/interview shows. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 4614 Registered: 02-2007 |
agreed...he is pretty savy and is not afraid to ask the tough questions...he should be sitting next to Helen Thomas..that would be a hoot. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 19570 Registered: 11-2006 |
Huh? What does HFMC's nursing staff have to do with anything here? John Stewart is a journalist? Since when? |
