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Danindc
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 9:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

UPDATE:

It seems that absolutely no progress has been made in the electoral results of the Minnesota Senate election. Norm Coleman, despite encouraging Al Franken to throw in the towel shortly after election day when it appeared that Coleman had the lead, and despite pledging to not file a lawsuit if he should be found to lose the election, is desperately trying to hang on to his Senate seat. Mind you, it's four months after election day.

From electoral-vote.com:

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No Progress in Minnesota
Former senator Norm Coleman's team rested his case on Monday, so now Al Franken's lawyers are doing the talking. They asked the judges to throw out the whole case, but lawyers always do that and there is no chance it will happen. In reality, they are arguing that while a handful of absentee ballots might have been incorrectly rejected when a county official made a mistake, but by and large there was no large-scale fraud and the rejected ballots that Coleman wants counted were indeed duly rejected under Minnesota law (for example, because the date the voter put on the envelope disagrees with the date the witness put on the envelope). Franken's team will probably continue for another two weeks or so.

Meanwhile, Coleman has started a public relations campaign asking for a new election. This seems an unlikely option as even some of Coleman' supporters oppose the idea and there is nothing in Minnesota law calling for do-overs. Unless massive fraud can be proven, the only way for a new election to happen is if the state legislature passes a law calling for it. Since the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, as the Democrats are called in Minnesota, controls both houses of the state legislature, that is not going to happen as long as Franken remains in the lead. If Coleman should pick up enough absentee ballots to take the lead, the DFLers in the state legislature might ram through a bill calling for a new election, but then Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) would veto it. So a new election is exceedingly unlikely.



In the meantime, the people of Minnesota are represented with half the normal vote in the Senate. The media isn't covering this story. Where are the outraged Republicans who told Al Gore to give up and throw in the towel in 2000? Where are the "sore loser" comments directed toward Norm Coleman?

The Republican Party is a fucking joke anymore. I pray for the day that an intellectually honest and ethically upright conservative movement returns to this country.
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Wally
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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I pray for the day that an intellectually honest and ethically upright conservative movement returns to this country.

I'm with you on that one. I'd extend that to the government as a whole, by the way.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeez, by the time this is settled it will be time for the next round. Whichever side prevails, I say it is better to be decisive in the count for the sake of the sanctity of our Democratic process.
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D_mcc
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 1:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah...just like you and all your fellow righties were screaming in 2000...god you're two faced...
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the same Norm Coleman who told Al Franken to "just take the high road" and cede the election to him the day after the election when Normie was in the lead.

What double standards the fringe-right have.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 4:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Screaming what in 2000? That GWB won, which was upheld?
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Ferntruth
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Screaming what in 2000? That GWB won, which was upheld?"

What upheld? Certainly not justice.
His "victory" was bestowed upon him the Supreme Court. It's a moot point now anyway. Bottom line is that GWB is history, and now I can eagerly await what I hope will be a prolonged and painful illness to befall him..similar to the prolonged and painful recession he and the Republicans gave to America.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justice, vote counts (electoral votes). Al Gore himself agreed and conceded.

FDR, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Frank, Reed, Shumer, Dodd, Obama, are all the politicians to thank for the recession (or worse, time will tell). And they owe it to their socialist allegiences...IOW Marx.
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Themax
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CC: Don't leave out Reagan

hnn.us/articles/53527.html

Blame Ronald Reagan For Our Current Economic Crisis
By Robert Brent Toplin
Mr. Toplin, Professor of History at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington, is the author of a dozen books including Radical Conservatism: The Right’s Political Religion (2006).

These admirers rarely acknowledge how central Reagan’s ideas are to the market difficulties troubling us today. As the country’s greatest modern champion of deregulation, perhaps Ronald Reagan contributed more to today’s unstable business climate than any other American. His long-standing campaign against the role of government in American life, a crusade he often stretched to extremes, produced conditions that ultimately proved bad for business...
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 1:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr. Toplin's premise is myopic and erroneous.
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Rb336
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

show how, bats
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Short sighted...only looking back to Reagan, when the root lies in American socialism (FDR, LBJ) in the realm of housing.

Erroneous as deregulation would have helped to avert the disaster.
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some socialism is good. Many European countries are doing just fine with a balance of socialism and capitalism. America would be wise to emulate it.

BTW, socialism is not a bad word.
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Danindc
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Short sighted...only looking back to Reagan



No shit. That was the intent of the author--to illustrate Reagan's contributions to the current economic scenario. What would LBJ or FDR have to do with that?

P.S. I didn't realize that housing people was such a crime! I suppose things were better in the 80s, when we had record numbers of homeless, right?
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D_mcc
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Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I find it Ironic that it was ok for Supreme Court justices to essentially vote twice in an election

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