Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 2024 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 8:40 am: | |
Do these stories irritate any one else? I mean if I walk into Mickey Dees, go behind the counter and grab an order of Mc nuggets and walk out without paying. Will the store's manager get arrested for mis using 911 when he calls the police on me? (Message edited by cambrian on March 04, 2009) |
Flanders_field Member Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1767 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:18 pm: | |
John McCain's brother Joe called 911 twice during the fall campaign to complain about traffic: Operator: Alexandria 911, state your emergency Caller: Well, it's not an emergency but do you know why on one side at the damn drawbridge of 95 traffic is stopped for 15 minutes and yet traffic's coming the other way across the drawbridge? Operator: Sir, are you calling 911 to complain about traffic? (pause) Caller: "[Expletive]" (caller hangs up) John McCain's brother's angry 911 call: a short family fuse I can understand some small portion of the US population being ignorant enough to call 911 for a non-emergency, but the brother of a POTUS candidate really should know better. |
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe
Post Number: 2911 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 1:03 pm: | |
The issue is, not that there were no McNuggets, but that the store would not refund her money. They took her money and couldn't give her the nuggets, then refused to refund her money. I think her calling the police may have been over the top, but lots of people don't know there is another way to resolve things. Calling the manager would be number one on my list, but if they still refused my refund, I might call the police, too. Maybe not 911, but what is the non-emergency number? Does anyone remember theirs? |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 2025 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 2:05 pm: | |
Exactly! What's the difference if it's McDonald's stealing this lady's money or me stealing the McNuggets? Crime is a crime, I understand they offered her an item of similar value; But if instead of paying for the McNuggets I ate, could I offer to mop their kitchen floor instead? Would that stop me from being arrested for retail fraud? |
Danindc Member Username: Danindc
Post Number: 4494 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 2:10 pm: | |
Anyone know the number for 311??? |
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe
Post Number: 2912 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 2:31 pm: | |
That's the problem, there isn't a national non-emergency number program. I was on I-26 heading south a month ago when I saw a car on the other side catch fire. I called 911 and reached the South Carolina emergency system. Where could I call anywhere in the country for a non-emergency situation? Here, I have to look up the non-emergency number every time I need it. It's something like 248-796-somethingx4. Cambrian, I think the problem was that it wasn't an emergency, because the business wasn't going anywhere. You, the absconder, on the other hand, would be an unknown person heading to parts unknown, so apprehending you on the spot would be necessary, or the cost of finding you would exceed the cost of immediate intervention. That can be a difficult thing to figure out in the heat of the moment. (Message edited by gazhekwe on March 04, 2009) |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 2029 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:07 pm: | |
It's just interesting that the mechanisms in place to deal with these issues are so different. I shop lift a box of McNuggets, I get a night in jail, courtesy the taxpayers, and up to a 60 day jail sentence, community service what have you, the direct cost to McDonalds for the service of the police and courts to deal with me is $0. The lady's recourse to recover her lost $5 is to file a claim in small claims court, pay the fees associated with such and miss time at work to make her argument. With a system set up like that, why refund when you advertise merchandise you have no intention of selling? Don't seem right. |
14509glenfield Member Username: 14509glenfield
Post Number: 1503 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:08 pm: | |
Did she ever get her ass out of the vehicle? Go inside? Ask for the shift manager for a resolution? The read is NO. Did she abuse an emergency system frivolously? Many have. She's one to add to the list. Without a cell phone, what would she have done? |
Thames Member Username: Thames
Post Number: 409 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:41 pm: | |
Oh for gawd's sake Cambrian! You think her only options are 911 or small claims court? If that would have happened to me, I would have gotten the names of the employees involved, then I would have called and written the company about it. I'm sure corporate would have apologized, refunded her money, and sent coupons. Case closed. |
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob
Post Number: 1844 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:56 pm: | |
I would have called 911 and had a total meltdown in the middle of the store. I think both her and the employees that wouldn't refund her money should be kicked in the balls and in the absence of balls, kicked in the uterus for being stupid. |
Downriviera Member Username: Downriviera
Post Number: 1071 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 7:02 pm: | |
I'm calling 911 right now about the $14 sandwich at the Book Cadillac. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19189 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:59 pm: | |
What is the purpose of laws if they are not to be enforced? |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 2031 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 8:42 am: | |
I dunno, I've hit a lot brick walls dealing with companies who hide behind policies that benefit thier self interest and screw the consumer. No matter how high you take your complaining they keep reciting "Our policy is...". |
Sirrealone Member Username: Sirrealone
Post Number: 275 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 12:05 pm: | |
"911, what's your emergency?" "Help, I have a crack in my butt!" |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 19209 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 5:28 pm: | |
They stole money from her. She could file suit, but that means costly lawyers, so...what legal recourse remains? |