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Alsodave
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 6:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your unhappiness isn't ironic. What's ironic is that a party that, during the campaign, attacked Obama as a glorified celebrity is now being run by (dramatic pause) a celebrity!
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 8:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vetal says: "More importantly, Rush is doing exactly what many conservatives need him to be doing."

True, but that doesn't change the fact that Rush is simply an entertainer with a (putting it mildly) very checkered history. I doubt that the conservatives would be kissing his ass so much if they knew he used his (fat ass) cyst as excuse to avoid serving his country. That is just the start....read a biography to get the "full" version. It's shocking that Christians can support such a pompous hypocritical creep. Well, maybe not. Many of those so-called religious leaders are the worst among us.

Oh well...no one's perfect, he's just less perfect than most.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 8:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They know it, they know it perfectly well. The Republican Party is filled with hypocrites. Rush gets the job done, he whips up the hate, they rake in the votes. That is...until the majority of the American people finally got his number.

So the hate speech will get a little more 1930's style, the stink of their desperation will hopefully drive even more people away.
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Gibran
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:05 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cc that's why we have elections...if you aren'thappy with the Republicans vote them out..get some fresh ideas within the party and hope they can learn compassion and conservatism..maybe then they will have cross over appeal..right now it kinda looks like the party of swamp water and anger.
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Danindc
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:11 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"More importantly, Rush is doing exactly what many conservatives the Democratic party needs him to be doing."
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Pam
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.dccc.org/content/so rry
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 12:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree Gibran...except that I am looking forward to the next elections and voting out the current group that seems intent on turning us into a carbon copy of the disintegrated USSR.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 10:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

... I am looking forward to the next elections and voting out the current group ...



More concerned with voting OUT something than voting IN something. Not an offensive plan.
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Classicyesfan
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^ Vetal, yes, that sounds sort of like a childish rage which offers no replacement value.
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20043_stotter
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 12:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CYF, Good observation. CC is miserable now, and he will even be more so, when he has to start paying some of our taxes.
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Flanders_field
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RNC Chairman Michael Steele's blog: http://www.steeleforchairman.com/ apparently was taken down several days ago:

"The Steele for RNC Chairman blog is linking directly to the RNC’s homepage. One has to wonder if the RNC has taken the site down in response to the attacks being launched there by the conservative base."

Update: there are now almost a dozen examples of Dittohead attacks on Steele's vanished blog posted on the following link:

UPDATED: No More Blog For Steele?

Will this portend the demise of Steele's so far brief tenure as RNC Chairman?

Naah...




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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder how people will look back on Steele in 15-20 years? And in 2012?
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think he is yet important enough to warrant that kind of speculation.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe.

Steele may end up a footnote in the margin of some reference or historical document. Especially any references to the GOP in 2009-2010.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not everyone takes the top position. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't try to do the right thing (dual meaning).
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Jimaz
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a funny Saturday Night Live video about Steele at the end of SNL video: Limbaugh electrocutes Steele for 'off the hook' remarks.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^ Yep, Jimaz. Saw it live on SNL last night. I also like the Financial Expert who always says "Fix It".
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Thejesus
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^"When I wake up tomorrow, it better be FIXED!!!"
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 6:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, SNL Financial Expert Oscar Rogers! Ah, but I digress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =yo3uxqwTxk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CudTo5Mh6-Q

(Message edited by vetalalumni on March 08, 2009)
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Themax
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Stephen Colbert has challenged Steele to rap off. I don't know if his challenge is on youtube.
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Themax
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen Colbert has challenged Steele to a rap off. I don't know if his challenge is on youtube.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colbert taking a sheet from Rush's book? Too late, been there and done that.
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Jams
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:00 EDT
Report: No-confidence vote on Steele in the works
If nothing else, Michael Steele's tenure at the head of the Republican National Committee may finally prove Thomas Hobbes' famous work "Leviathan" right: "The life of man [is] solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."

Taegan Goddard's Political Wire is reporting that Katon Dawson, who lost the RNC chairmanship to Steele back in January, is organizing a no-confidence vote against his rival. Like FiveThirtyEight.com's earlier report, Goddard's sources tell him the vote will come after the March 31st special election for New York's 20th congressional district -- but Goddard's sources say the vote will happen whether or not Republicans win that seat.

Some observers have expressed doubt about the reports. Republican strategist Patrick Ruffini, for instance, Twittered, "There is something suspicious about 'GOP sources' who take their stuff first to 538.com (sic) and Political Wire." And Politico's Mike Allen, while not addressing Goddard's story directly, wrote, "Steele is likely to keep his job, because it’s hard to get rid of a chairman. But some of the nation’s most senior Republicans say they’ll watch first and second quarter fundraising carefully. One of them BlackBerries: 'His problem is he appears weak and is struggling for credibility with donors. Steele will remain, limping. He has a lot to prove to the donors -- large and small. The Limbaugh stuff is transient -- real leaders will emerge.'"

If the reports are indeed false, that might end up as a good thing for Republicans. Sure, Steele's tenure as RNC chair has been embarrassing so far, and sure, he's reportedly doing a poor job of running the place. But the spectacle of a guy who only recently quit his membership in a whites-only country club mounting a coup attempt against the RNC's first black chairman would be pretty embarrassing as well.



http://www.salon.com/politics/ war_room/

Getting interesting in the "loyal opposition".
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 6:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Steven Colbert challenged Michael Steele to a freestyle rap battle....and Steele accepted.


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Steele has a sense of humor...cool, more icing. Just make sure the cake is high quality.


Problem is Steele very well may have been serious and not really simply being humorous.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 9:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, Steele was not being serious.
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Flanders_field
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"In an interview with GQ's Lisa DePaulo, Michael Steele declares that abortion is an "individual choice" -- a fairly startling policy position for the leader of the Republican Party. However, the impact is somewhat diminished by the fact that Steele seems to have no idea what he's talking about."

M: The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life. So, you know, I think the power of the argument of choice boils down to stating a case for one or the other.

L: Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?

M: Yeah. I mean, again, I think that's an individual choice.

L: You do?

M: Yeah. Absolutely.

Michael Steele: Abortion Is An "Individual Choice"

Well..no matter if Mike does or doesn't know what he is talking about, this is not going to sit well with the fundies in the GOP. It may be the final straw that pushes him out of his chairmanship of the RNC.
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Firstandten
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 9:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steele will probably get a vote of "no confidence" from his fellow republicans and he will lose his chairmanship using his abortion statements as the final straw.

However, it might be a little shortsighted on the republicans to run the guy out of the chairmanship. If the party wants to appeal to more than just the zealots they need to have those kinds of conversations. Otherwise they will need to continue to resort to dirty tricks in order to win elections because they simply don't have the numbers, which in the long run will work against the party.
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Vetalalumni
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Not everyone takes the top position. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't try to do the right thing (dual meaning).


Certainly it is true that a team is comprised of role players. Is Steele trying to do the right thing?
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 8:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Republican and conservative have diverged somewhat in my opinion. If Steele stays loyal to the core conservative values, he will do just fine.

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