Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5695 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 6:45 pm: | |
Job cuts are over 1000 at assorted Gannett papers as I write this. We still haven't heard how it will have an impact on Detroit but the guns are aimed at the Free Press. Rhymeswithrawk, what do you hear? Are you okay? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16444 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 8:02 pm: | |
I am sure there will be cuts at the Free Press. The smart move is to diversify away from the print media. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5697 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 8:47 pm: | |
Merry Christmas from Ccbatson! Here's your pink slip! Of course there will be cuts at the Free Press. Don't be thick. (er) |
20043_stotter Member Username: 20043_stotter
Post Number: 713 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 11:56 pm: | |
Gannett owns both the News and Free Press. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5700 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 7:31 am: | |
Yes, and they own the Media Partnership. But Gannett runs the Free Press. Looks like another round of union busting to me. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9723 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 7:54 am: | |
Haven't you been paying attention to Cc? Unions are evil, money grubbing institutions, only concerned with making the most for their membership. Unlike the banking industry and other "free-market" corporations who concern themselves with what is best for the overall society. (excuse me, I have to vomit now.) |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5701 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 8:00 am: | |
It's just plain strange that there are like 1,700 cuts nationwide, from money making newspapers and the paper that has consistently lost the most money had no cuts. The tension was so thick yesterday, everyone was glued to the Gannett Blog, then...nothing. Something is going on here. |
Carolcb Member Username: Carolcb
Post Number: 4842 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 8:43 am: | |
Hang in there. |
Aiw Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 6828 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 2:18 pm: | |
Good luck ORF --- I'm ready for my pink slip next week. Merry Christmas indeed! |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5703 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 9:04 pm: | |
I hope not, Aiw. My department won't be touched till late winter but we're still rattled. I can't imagine how you feel. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16461 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 9:07 pm: | |
Yes, bust the unions, by all means. Then the company can compete effectively so that there will be jobs in the first place. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9733 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 9:23 pm: | |
Yeppers, bust them unions...,hell, without them, the practice of medical insurance payed by employers would have never come about. And drop those Medicare/Medicaid payments, it's creeping socialism. But, of course, Cc's lifestyle might not be so plush if he were required to compete in the "free market". |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16469 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 9:26 pm: | |
Consumers and providers of health care would all be far better off in a free market system absent mandatory employer health insurance (which are being eliminated by employing all part timers as we speak), and Medicare (which is on a fast track for insolvency). |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9734 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 9:37 pm: | |
Yeppers, that's the way to go! 4 million and rising out-of-work people without insurance. Yep, gotta love that Friedman/Randian School of Economics. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16476 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 9:39 pm: | |
Time to come out of the shallow water and think that one through Jams. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5704 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 11:42 pm: | |
It's okay, Jams. The free market is dead, killed by its own incompetence and the weight of its greed. R.I.No P. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6978 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 4:01 pm: | |
Scripps to Seek Buyer for Rocky Mountain Newsquote:The E.W. Scripps Company has decided to offer for sale its Denver-based daily newspaper, The Rocky Mountain News, as well as the newspaper's 50-percent interest in the Denver Newspaper Agency, which publishes the Rocky Mountain News and The Denver Post under a joint operating agreement (JOA). Scripps bought the Rocky Mountain News, which is Colorado's first newspaper and the state's oldest continuously operated business, in 1926. After a decades-long circulation war, the newspaper in 2001 entered into the JOA with The Denver Post, which is owned by MediaNews Group.... |
Servite76 Member Username: Servite76
Post Number: 119 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 4:10 pm: | |
Some lay off's today at Detroit Media Partnership. Other updates here. http://gannettblog.blogspot.co m/ |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16483 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 4:33 pm: | |
It is OK for Jams (and ORF) to be blissfully ignorant by virtue of lack of thought? Whatever floats your boat. If the free market were truly dead, we would all be doomed. It has been framed by liberals for socialist policy's failures, it is wounded, but not dead (thank G-d). |
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23
Post Number: 3099 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 5:53 pm: | |
You seem stuck in you're one sided slant Cc. I think the rest of us would hope for some good from both sides. (Or AKA middle of the road.) |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9744 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 10:40 pm: | |
quote:It is OK for Jams (and ORF) to be blissfully ignorant by virtue of lack of thought? Ahh yes! Good tactic, instead of refuting arguments, claim your opponents are ignorant without presenting evidence of such ignorance. Hopefully, the "free market theory" promulgated by Friedman and the "Chicago School" will be shown to be the road to disaster it really is. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16515 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 6:29 pm: | |
Hopefully the free market will be shown to be disastrous? You have a death wish, and the sentiment borders on treasonous as individual property rights (captialism) are the basis for the founding of our Country. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 5707 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 3:22 pm: | |
A completely senseless statement, Ccbatson. |
Lowell Moderator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 5198 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 5:06 pm: | |
It is well known that the medical industry has been running at 10-15% annual inflation rate for several years now continually sucking up more of Americans' declining incomes while providing near third world health statistics that leave tens of millions on their own. I think it is time for the free market to work. We need a policy to remove all restrictions and invite doctors from all over the world. Drop the socialist requirements that they have any competency testing and let's establish true capitalist competition. I am sure there are tens of thousands of doctors from Russia, India, and many other places that would be happy to work for $60-80K year. This would allow our local hospitals to lay off the ridiculously overpaid doctors, drive down medical costs and take care of our uninsured. It the laid off doctors complain, they should be offered free community college courses so that they can retrain for the new economy, even though that would be slightly socialist too. |
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55
Post Number: 2465 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 5:32 pm: | |
You forgot to mention allowing medications to be imported from other countries, Lowell. (For some reason, the "free marketers" love that restriction on free enterprise.) Big Pharma might have even to get rid of their useless TV commercials if we did that. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16521 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 5:45 pm: | |
Actually, regarding imported medications, if they are safe (not hard to establish), then absolutely, this "free market advocate" is all for importation and free trade. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 6991 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 8:05 pm: | |
I just recently had to pay $82 for 3 mL of eyedrops. It's becoming more common for people in Arizona to get their prescription drugs in Mexico. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16535 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 8:07 pm: | |
Thanks to??? Big government and anti free trade policy. Do some of you liberals start to see the logic yet? Do you think this is a dynamic unique to medications? What is stopping the same thing from happening for any product or service so controlled? |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 2985 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 6:59 pm: | |
Tribune Files Bankruptcy One Year After Zell Bailout. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ news?pid=20601087&sid=aal..cqL OFpc&refer=home |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16541 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:06 pm: | |
This is the fear...the bailouts don't work, in fact, they prolong the bad behaviors and simply delay the failure. |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 765 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:18 pm: | |
I wonder what Republican talking heads will say when AIG fails? Will they call out their boy Paulson on that bailout. I seriously doubt I'll live to see that day. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16543 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:19 pm: | |
You realize that Paulson is a Democrat, don't you? |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 767 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:34 pm: | |
Unlike you, I don't blindly follow someone who is clueless just because he has a D or R next to their name. I prefer to judge people on where they stand on the issues, and call out bad policies regardless of party loyalty. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9763 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:35 pm: | |
Yes, as a die-hard Democrat he was hired as John Ehrlichman's assistant during the Nixon administration. No wonder you hate fiction, you're so bad at it. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16550 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:37 pm: | |
You've got a bad case of foot in mouth on that one guys. Apparently you weren't aware that Paulson is a liberal.....I am happy to have enlightened you. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9764 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:48 pm: | |
quote:Paulson had always been a Republican—but more a Rockefeller Republican than a DeLay one. http://www.newsweek.com/id/160 119/page/2 Some salt for that boot, Cc? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16560 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:54 pm: | |
Fell in it again Jams...did I say anything about being a Republican? He is a liberal, and philosophically, closing your eyes to claimed affiliation, he is 99% Democrat. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9765 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 8:00 pm: | |
I'm sorry, since there are no published copies of the Official Definitions of Batsonia, the closest thing I can find regarding your fluid definitions is Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass. |
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 2989 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:40 pm: | |
he is a goldman sachs former employee who gave them a bailout and failed to give a dime to Lehman bros. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 9768 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:56 pm: | |
...and GWB is a former oil executive (failed), but he's still a Republican, despite how those on the Right choose to dis-associate themselves from him. |
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 3611 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 1:31 am: | |
Local publishers are blowing chunks right now too. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 7002 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 4:57 pm: | |
The Death of the American Newspaper? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16566 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 9:08 pm: | |
Global warming, socializing the mortgage industry, any conservative policy that can be attributed to him (either implemented, or supported by)? |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 8341 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:19 am: | |
"did I say anything about being a Republican? He is a liberal, and philosophically, closing your eyes to claimed affiliation, he is 99% Democrat." ah, funny. Bats is having a reality disfunction |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 16595 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 8:56 pm: | |
As I thought, not a single example. |
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336
Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 11:14 am: | |
um, bats, does part of your reality disfunction include hallucinating that you asked for an example? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 17348 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 7:20 pm: | |
My post 16566, three above this point that you responded to (but refused to supply an answer as was requested). |