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Busterwmu
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Engine 23


Here's a recent photo from this past Monday of Engine 23 Company, looking really good, at the corner of Moran and E. Grand. The inscription on the front says 1899! 110 years this year!
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Dfd
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Thanks Buster
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Zitro
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Coincidentely Engine 23 was in the news. Some of the Tigers visited there yesterday honoring Firfighter Harris. Nice article in the News.

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20090124/OPINI ON03/901240374/1004
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Wonderful story....

The guys at 23 are a fun bunch!! I remember stopping by a couple years back to take photos of the station. They are very proud of it!
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This may or may not be the place to ask this, and it may be a bit naive, but i will give it a shot..i would like to get my daughter (who’s 8) more involved in helping out the community and i have toyed with the idea of baking cookies, pies and cakes with her once a month to take to a fire station...1) can you just walk into a fire house bringing gifts? 2) do the firemen actually like this?
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A Firefighter turning away a visit from people bearing food is unheard of. You will be welcome.
Remember that from 13:00 to 17:00 is private time.Best time is morning or late afternoon.
A Fire House for a home is a JOB! I know two people who have done it.Any of the D.F.D.
stations available are in such bad shape itwould take any army and a ton of money.Think about the cost of maintaining and heating theese caverns.
Box 42 December meeting was at E.23.
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Detroitteacher
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Winter: Sounds like a great idea! I know dad has never turned away sugary snacks and they will be deeply appreciated by the guys (as are hot cocoa and coffee when the guys are on runs in the cold weather and cold drinking water in hot weather).
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Dfd
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Until I can get up there to the D to take some pictures, here is a picture of a Cincinnati firehouse.






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Tony_box_42
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D.F.D. Nice photo. Are "Cinci" Companies
numbered alike? I notice E.29 with T.29.
Ray : I finaly made it to Headquarters today.
Weather is like spring compared to the
last week. You were right about John.
it was a Duty Disabilty.E-mail me at
B42PemSta@aol.com for more details.
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Dfd
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Tony, the companies are numbered alike now for a few years. This was to incorporate Hamilton County into the station numbering. Before that, they were more like Detroit.
Here is another CFD classic. Eng 35



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Tony_box_42
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Bet you have to be very careful backing in.
Wonder how many mirrors had to be replaced?
Love the old classic stations.
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Dfd
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Really! When it was built, that doorway probably seemed huge.
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Tony_box_42
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D F D : I don't know why , Detroit had a habit of "shoehorning" Chiefs into quarters. The only one left is Ch.2. It was hard enough fitting a car between E.55 and L.27. The Chief now drives a Ford Excursion. It has to fit between an ALF engine and a Pierce rear mount.Only two exit doors.Talk about a tight fit.
Detroitteacher: Great photo going around of your dad, the "B" brothers and Fred.Sitting in the shop,coffee mugs in hand lying through there teeth about fires.Every time one of them tells a story the flames get higher the heat more intense the smoke thicker and the alarm level rises. I could listen to theese stories all day.
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Ray1936
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Check these old timers out, guys. They look pretty spiffy to me!

http://www.shorpy.com/node/555 7?size=_original
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Detroitteacher
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Tony: Can you post the photo of dad? I'm at the shop frequently and the BS that flies is amazing! I'm working on their website (again) and would love to have photos of the "gang"...
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Tony_box_42
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Great Photo, Ray.
Detroitteacher : I don't have a copy at home.
When I go to the Fund office
we will figure out how to
post a copy.
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Detroitteacher
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Thanks :-)
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Busterwmu
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Anyone have any good photos of Ladder 14???:

Blaze destroys east-side firehouse

BY TAMMY STABLES BATTAGLIA • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER • March 3, 2009

After dousing the flames in a vacant four-family flat early this morning, a Detroit Fire Department crew returned to flames shooting from their own east-side firehouse.

Ladder 14 at 2200 Crane St. at Brinket Street was destroyed in the 1:40 a.m. blaze, Lt. Dennis Richardson of the department’s Arson Unit said this morning.

“Right now, they have a board-up crew, then it’s up to our administration what they’re going to do with it,” Richardson said. “The engine house is pretty much totaled.”

The four firefighters and one truck housed at the firehouse were gone for about 30 minutes when the fire started.

The fire started in an office area, with a couple of couches, a computer and television, where the four firefighters on duty do their paperwork.

Investigators from the Arson Unit, which responds to any scene where the cause of a fire is unknown, could not determine from the remains what started the fire.

“I’m going to say undetermined but it looks accidental,” he said, adding that anything from careless smoking to electrical apparatus overheating could have ignited the room.

The firehouse, which services the Indian Village neighborhood and areas around Jefferson and Kercheval, is more than 80 years old.

“It probably cost more money to rebuild it than it would building a new one,” Richardson said. It’s the first big fire in years at a Detroit firehouse, he added. “Normally it might be a kitchen fire - they might leave something on the stove, get a run and forget about it. This is a lot worse.”

http://www.freep.com/article/2 0090303/NEWS01/90303006/Blaze+ destroys+Detroit+firehouse
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Ray1936
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Google Street View:



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OK, where is that Federal money now, Mr. Obama? Somebody needs a new firehouse!
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Not to get off the topic... and I'm surprised that this story didn't get much thread space on the discussion board... but when I read that story about the firehouse being burned down, all I could think was "just when you think that Detroit can't show you much more in the way of fucked up-ness.... well, here ya go." Oy.
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Busterwmu
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Hmm, too bad about Ladder 14, it was a really historic firehouse, as many of the fire companies in the city are, and prospects for a renovation of the building are looking pretty slim. If they don't reopen this building/company (it sounds like the damage was more limited than first thought, but it still doesn't look too good), maybe they can reassign them to old Engine 37 on the west side (Central near Dix). I don't know what coverage is like in this segment of the east side, but I believe there is a fairly large gap on the west side, with the next nearest fire companies on Junction near Holy Redeemer and the Southwest Public Safety Center on Fort. Engine 37 is still open, by the way, but only as an EMS company. The fire company was disbanded I think in 2004 or 2005 when a few companies closed. As the building is still open and has a stall waiting for a fire truck, maybe this would make sense.

Below is an article from the Detroit News today:

Tuesday, March 3, 2009
Sleepy firefighter sparks blaze in own firehouse

Charlie LeDuff / The Detroit News

DETROIT -- Strange things happen in the Big City and today it appears that a sleepy-eyed firefighter may have burned down his own firehouse, investigators said.

The firefighter was reading by lamplight early this morning at Ladder Co. 14 -- at Crane and Brinket on the east side -- and attempted to create a little mood by lighting some incense and dousing the harsh light of a floor lamp by placing a towel over it.

Then around 1 a.m., the ladder company received a call for a fire at an abandoned apartment complex at Charlevoix and Harding.

The firefighter who was reading in the watch room where the dispatch calls are received jumped into his bunker gear, forgetting to take the towel off the lamp.

"This was an accident," said Capt. Steve Varnas of the Detroit Fire Department Arson Squad. "It wasn't like he was smoking in bed or anything."

The firefighter, whose name was not released pending further investigation, was studying Bible passages, his crew mates said. His name has not been released, pending further investigation.

It seems that nobody in the crumbling neighborhood saw the fire, even though flames were leaping out high above the windows. In fact, the fire was discovered by the firefighters themselves as they were returning from the job on Charlevoix. They saw the flames from a few blocks away but did not immediately realize it was their house that was ablaze.

"It was quite a large fire," Varnas said. "There was smoke and flames rolling out the windows."

In the rare instance of a fire in a fire house, it is usually the kitchen that gets scorched as the cook may get called away from his potatoes roasting in the oven. But the potatoes at Ladder 14 went unscathed this morning.

But the watch room and the sleeping quarters above were severely damaged, the wood trim left looking like a spent log in a fireplace. Rumors swirled early this morning that the fire was caused by a Molotov cocktail thrown by a disgruntled neighbor, but that proved to be nothing but hyperbole.

In a twist of fate, the firefighters of Ladder Co. 14 could not put out their own fire because they had no engine to pump water from the fire hydrant. As it happens, the city decommissioned the engine that was also stationed at the firehouse a few years ago in a cost-cutting measure.

The firefighters made their own call to the fire department around 1:40 a.m. and within 2 minutes; Engine Co. 32 was on the scene. Minutes after that, three more engines arrived. But it may have been too little, too late. Fire has a tendency to quadruple over that time period, firefighters say. The flames were extinguished about three hours later.

The fire house is lovingly christened "The Arm Pit" because it is located in a rough and tumbledown neighborhood. The house went into operation in June 1901 and services the Indian Village area and the high rises along the riverfront.

Its future is uncertain. It will mostly likely be deactivated and the fire crew reassigned to another firehouse, Varnas said.

You can reach Charlie LeDuff at (313) 222-2071 or charlie@detnews.com.

http://www.detroitnews.com/app s/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200903 03/METRO/903030415
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Any news on the future of Ladder 14?
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Cuurently in service.Running with E.38 at
Coplin north of E. Jefferson.
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Hello, I'm new to this forum
And had a few things I need help on.

Does anyone have a photo from the front or of the side of Engine 57 that shows the yellow siren on top? I own that siren now, and it's been restored.
I would like to have a photo of it when it was in service. It can been seen here http://www.michigancivildefens e.com/id2.html

Secondly, I would be asking permission to use the photo's posted by users Lowell of engine 44, 47, and FD training building, and MikeM of engine 34, 49, and 55 for my website. I have a section in there for Detroit Civil Defense.
http://www.michigancivildefens e.com/id18.html
I haven't added the 41 siren locations to that section yet.

Thanks
Eric L.
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Dfd
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Welcome to the forum Eric. Post #1. Hey, if you take any photos of firehouses, we'd like to see them if you dont mind. Also try detroitfirefighters.net
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Mcdm
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Sorry about all the links, I have more somewhere.
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Busterwmu
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Anyone know if the firehouse on E. Jefferson near the Humbolt Gate is still in service?

Engine 32 near the Conners Creek powerplant on Jefferson was looking good this evening.
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Tony_box_42
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Do you mean the Hibbard Gate ? That was L.14's
original quarters. They moved in with E.26 in 1939.That building was a rec center. It is now the annex to Pewabic Pottery across Jefferson.
E.26 was placed out of service in 2005.The quarters was damaged by fire a few weeks back.
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Buyamerican
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Isn't that the Hurlbut Gate? I climbed that gate many times in my youth.
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Yes, it's the Hurlbut Gate, named after a 19th Century water board head -- Chauncey Hurlbut -- who left money for what became Waterworks Park. Google "Hurlbut and wiki" and also check out this link for what I think is a story from the NYT in the 1880s:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/a bstract.html?res=9C01E0D71F31E 633A25753C1A9659C94669FD7CF
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Tony_box_42
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Don't know why I typed in Hibbard. I know it is
Hurlbut.The "Little House on the Prarie ", is
100 this year.
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did the firefighters steal the doors off of that house?
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321brian
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sure looks like they did.
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Dfd
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bump
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Tony_box_42
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Hi, D.F.D. Thanks for kicking up the discussion.
Busy day. Sadly one fatality. Eldrly gentelman.
Off the National update Houston Texas Engine
hit a Ladder Truck. Two civilians and one F.F.
critical.
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Dfd
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Wow, hate to hear about the fatalities and injuries. We want everyone to go home and for the civilians to be safe.

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