  Tsomyak Member Username: Tsomyak Post Number: 123 Registered: 04-2008 |
Great news JC! Please keep us posted on how she's doing. | ||
Jcole Member Username: Jcole Post Number: 6126 Registered: 04-2005 |
Thanks all. I'll let you know how she does | ||
7andkelly Member Username: 7andkelly Post Number: 1876 Registered: 04-2008 |
J, I was referring to the original original SJ thread, the one KR was referring to when he said "I thought I'd give the St. Jude Post another chance", and not the original thread of this thread that originally got lumped in with the Eastside threads, and then got archived when it was brought back. | ||
Jcole Member Username: Jcole Post Number: 6127 Registered: 04-2005 |
Oh, THAT original original thread. | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1410 Registered: 04-2007 |
7: Thanks for clarifying. | ||
7andkelly Member Username: 7andkelly Post Number: 1877 Registered: 04-2008 |
It reminds me of original Coke. I usually think of original Coke as the one they went back to after that failed experiment called New Coke, but I'm guessing there is some original original recipe for that'll never be tasted again. | ||
7andkelly Member Username: 7andkelly Post Number: 1878 Registered: 04-2008 |
Instead of the HOF, apparently they went to the POC. | ||
12468_laing Member Username: 12468_laing Post Number: 440 Registered: 07-2008 |
For the old time St. Jude folks, I've been thinking about the islands going down Moross. When my folks moved to the area in 1956, Dad told me they were working on them then. My question is, when was the work begun, and why, I wonder, did they build a "boulevard" between duplexes? Don't get me wrong, I loved them for football games, but it just makes me wonder. | ||
Zitro Member Username: Zitro Post Number: 2787 Registered: 04-2008 |
I think you may have answered your own question laing. I don't know the absolute answer but I know Detroit loved it's Boulevards. Keep in mind at this time, this area of Detroit was the sticks so land wasn't an issue. My first apartment was on Lakewood by Warren and Chalmers. If you ever drive Lakewood south of Mack it is a very wide street and was originally designed as a Boulevard. Driving Moross from Kelly Road to the lake with the sunlight breeching through the tress was always an enjoyable one. | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1412 Registered: 04-2007 |
Laing: Moross Blvd. is the widest in Detroit, much wider than even Grand Blvd. Go figure. I'm not exactly sure what part of Moross your dad was referring to when it was being "worked" on. I do recall that Moross between Kelly and I-94 (or Harper Rd. previously) had full grown elm trees probably planted in the late 30s or early 40s along with the other elms in that area. If you recall the elms were planted on the outer edge of the boulevard thus making a nice "out of bounds" line for touch football. My instincts tell me that Moross was originally planned to be a show piece street starting at Redmond (at St. Jude) and running congruent along the Detroit border into Gross Pointe Farms and ending at the lake....It would make sense that Moross would have been lined with more stately homes. The duplexes, from what I was told, were built instead of full brick colonials or bungalows because there was shortage of material during the war effort. The same could be said for the duplexes along Morang, and Kelly Rd. BTW, I still get a chill up my spine when I see St. Jude Church in the distance when traveling on Moross. | ||
12468_laing Member Username: 12468_laing Post Number: 441 Registered: 07-2008 |
My parents moved onto Laing in 1956 - don't know exactly what he meant by "they were working on it then", but I always assumed that they may have been doing some kind of landscaping, re-paving, who knows? It is interesting Moross is the widest in Detroit. Another thing, wonder why they planted the trees on the outer edges? Didn't the islands stop at Mack? I always thought back in the day before Dutch Elm disease, it "classed" up the area pretty good. How have the trees grown back by now - anyone know? | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1413 Registered: 04-2007 |
Laing: The Islands did stop at Mack where the Detroit border ends. I wonder if Moross was a continuation of the boulevard system heading northwest from Chandler Park Blvd. As Zitro says "Detroit loves it boulevards". The city planners at that time did it right. The elms were probably planted at the edge to offer maximum shading and an ambience of a towering canopy. If you recall most of the streets in Detroit had elm trees right next to the street often only 30 ft apart. Elms are fast growing and have tall trunks, ideal for a tunnel effect of shade. Sadly, however, their abundance and close proximity with each other lead to the proliferation of dutch elm disease. Other tree were planted on Moross during the late 60s early 70s shortly after the removal of the diseased elms. It seems though that many of those trees are gone and even newer trees are there now. I could be wrong. It's nothing like it was during the 60s. (Message edited by kellyroad on March 20, 2009) | ||
Tsomyak Member Username: Tsomyak Post Number: 124 Registered: 04-2008 |
Yeah, I'd have to agree with KR, it looks better than it did in the early 80's (if you can ignore the trash), but nowhere near as magnificent as it did back in the day.  | ||
12468_laing Member Username: 12468_laing Post Number: 442 Registered: 07-2008 |
question sort of off-topic for St Jude people, with GM having their headquarters in the Ren Cen now, what is in the General Motors building? When I heard GM moved there, I thought it was ironic since it was Ford money that built it, right? | ||
Jcole Member Username: Jcole Post Number: 6136 Registered: 04-2005 |
Laing, this is from waymarking.com quote: | ||
12468_laing Member Username: 12468_laing Post Number: 443 Registered: 07-2008 |
Jcole, thanks. I was worried it was going to fall into disrepair. Been thinking about your sister - will include her in our intentions during our communion service tomorrow morning. | ||
Jcole Member Username: Jcole Post Number: 6137 Registered: 04-2005 |
Thanks Laing. I'm still worried. I don't like the fact that they're not real sure what was bleeding, and they sent her home anyway | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1414 Registered: 04-2007 |
Laing: http://www.detroit1701.org/Gen eral%20Motors%20Building.html The irony of the Rencen: Ford money built it, GM bought it on the cheap and now it's GM that's in financial peril. | ||
Zitro Member Username: Zitro Post Number: 2788 Registered: 04-2008 |
Sad to report, it looks like St. Jude lost another long time member of the church. AVERY MARY JUNE March 22, 2009 Loving wife of Edwin (deceased). Mother of Carolyn (James) Weiss; Sr. Kathy , OSM; Mary Lou (David) Poniers, Janet (Gary-dec) Kulka; John (Gaye Anne); Larry (Theresa); Paul (Colleen); 14 grandchildren; 13 great-grandchildren, 1 great-great-grandchild. Lived in Detroit for 78 years before moving to Lake, MI and Zephyrhills, FL. Prayer Service at Campbell-Stocking Funeral Home, Farwell, MI., Friday, March 27, 7 PM. Funeral Mass at St. Cecilia Church, Clare, MI., Saturday, March 28, 11:00 AM. A Memorial Mass will be on April 5th, 11:00 AM at St. Clare of Montefalco Church, Gross Pointe Park. In lieu of flowers the family request that donations be made to Servants of Mary or the Farwell Community Center. Condolences online at: www.CampbellStocking.com PrintSend | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1415 Registered: 04-2007 |
Zitro: Thanks for forwarding the obit. Mary Avery (and the entire Avery family) was indeed a long time and active member of St. Jude Parish. May she rest in peace. | ||
12468_laing Member Username: 12468_laing Post Number: 445 Registered: 07-2008 |
man, now that was one sweet lady. great family. God bless her soul and the Avery family. | ||
7andkelly Member Username: 7andkelly Post Number: 1881 Registered: 04-2008 |
Yes, thank you for posting this, Z. This is sad news indeed...for us...another living saint has left us to take their place in the heavenly kingdom. I'm sure my Mom and Dad were there to greet her, along with Mr. Avery and so many other neighbors, friends and family. May God rest her dear soul. Mrs. Avery was a great neighbor, fellow St. Jude parishioner, and a friend of the family. May her family and all those who mourn her passing be comforted by the Holy Spirit. | ||
Tsomyak Member Username: Tsomyak Post Number: 125 Registered: 04-2008 |
You might find this interesting. I just found this link via another thread. This is a map of Grosse Point Township from 1876. It includes our neighborhood at that time. After looking at it you can see how the street names that evolved. Moross, Kelley, Cadieux, Morang are all derived from the family names of the properties that abutted the streets. Interesting to see that Eastland was one the Jos. Campau estate. It appears the church property sits on land that once belong to Mrs Swartz. http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/ t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=micoun ty&cc=micounty&idno=3928152.00 01.001&frm=frameset&view=pdf&s eq=13 | ||
Jcole Member Username: Jcole Post Number: 6160 Registered: 04-2005 |
There's also a Diegal platte. I went to school with a Mary Deigal. | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1418 Registered: 04-2007 |
The 1876 map is fascinating. The map was drawn 65 years prior to when St. Jude Parish and the surrounding neighborhood were established, an interesting perspective (IMHO) considering it's been a longer time (68 years)since St. Jude was founded. It's interesting to note that Jos Campau still owned much of the east side land. Historically, much of Detroit was designed with many strip farms off the Detroit river....Jos Campau owned many of them. Perhaps the land shown on the map owned by Jos Campau was the remaining lots not sold to other families. It's interesting to see the name Bringard (St. Jude's northern boundary) and Morang, and Kelley (spelled differently). The current St. Jude lot as shown on the map could even have belonged to J. Salter. Questions or Points of Discussion: I wonder who owned the St. Jude lot (between Rex and Redmond on 7 Mile) when purchased from the Archdiocese. Was the land already purchased prior to Fr. Ording establishing a parish on the northeast side or did Fr. Ording actually have to request the Archdiocese to purchase that land. I seem to recall that the first rectory was located on Kelly and Roscommon and the first few Masses said at Denby. I wonder how many families from the 1876 map still existed in 1941 and eventually became St. Parishioners. | ||
Johnr Member Username: Johnr Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2009 |
First post here! I remember Jim and Paul Ansell from State Fair street. Does anybody know what happened to Steve Rudeen, St Jude '72? I've been looking for Steve for 20 years. A shout out to my Texas-based buddy TSomyak!! John R....Riad & Casino | ||
12468_laing Member Username: 12468_laing Post Number: 446 Registered: 07-2008 |
Johnr, welcome! I lived about 6 houses north of Casino on Laing, graduated St. Jude in '71. Do you remember the Olinzocks? Not sure I have that spelling right - they lived about 10-12 houses up Riad from Casino. | ||
Johnr Member Username: Johnr Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2009 |
Hey Laing, Yes I remember the Olinzocks, The Kocis' and many others. Whats your name? | ||
Kellyroad Member Username: Kellyroad Post Number: 1419 Registered: 04-2007 |
Welcome to the St. Jude thread Johnr. You'll find many of your schoolmates from the early 70s and late 60s on this thread. Did you live on the north or south side of Casino? Do you remember the Bondy famiiy on Riad between Moross and Casino. (active in scouts)? Hopefully, you'll be able to locate Steve. | ||
Johnr Member Username: Johnr Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2009 |
Hi KellyRd Let's see, I lived 2nd house N.of Casino,west side of Riad(12611). I knew the Bondys and was active in St Judes infamous "Pack 420" ;)Cub Scouts and later joined the Boy Scouts out of Carleton School. I remember we'd finish each weekly meeting with a vicious game of dodgeball. Who remembers Big Mark Patton? Riad and Casio also. |
