  Sg9018 Member Username: Sg9018 Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2006 |
Dream of regional rail-transit system is nearing reality http://www.freep.com/article/2 0090316/BUSINESS04/903160367/D ream+of+regional+rail-transit+ system+is+nearing+reality | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4287 Registered: 10-2003 |
And, again, Gallagher (who wrote one other article about transit, recently), fails to even mention the DDOT proposal like it doesn't even exist. What's the deal? | ||
Dtowncitylover Member Username: Dtowncitylover Post Number: 514 Registered: 02-2008 |
Notice, though, there was no mention of the streetcar, just light rail. Perhaps they've merged already, the word hasn't gotten out, and light rail is the one they're going with. | ||
Hans57 Member Username: Hans57 Post Number: 374 Registered: 05-2006 |
Dtown, I think you have your rails confused. The M1-rail is the streetcar, not the DDOT light rail. (Message edited by hans57 on March 16, 2009) (Message edited by hans57 on March 16, 2009) | ||
Stosh Member Username: Stosh Post Number: 155 Registered: 01-2009 |
Well the article above calls it M1-Rail, a light rail system. Tomato-Tomahto. | ||
Dcmorrison12 Member Username: Dcmorrison12 Post Number: 105 Registered: 02-2009 |
Well, the correct name for the the street car would be Modern Street Car - but it is also light rail, in the sense that it is not heavy rail (subways, elevated trains). But, it also is not LRT | ||
Detmsp Member Username: Detmsp Post Number: 84 Registered: 08-2008 |
if you look at the pdf's accomanying the article it says something along the lines of "there are two types of light rail, modern street car vehicles and light rail transit vehicles" so apparently they consider street cars to be light rail | ||
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott Post Number: 1909 Registered: 12-2006 |
The Federal Transit Administration considers a streetcar to be a form of light rail. Dtown said "Perhaps they've merged already", and then Hans ignored that in his post. The original M1-rail plan called for modern streetcar, but it has been reported they've had talks with DTOGS, and who knows what might have come of that? What's important are: how frequently do the vehicles come, how many passengers can they move, at what speed do they operate. Give me good answers to those three things and I don't care if you're running on a 65-foot-long streetcar or a 90-foot-long multi-articulated Bombardier wonder. People want service that works, and aren't going to stress over these kinds of details. | ||
Brian_fitzcarraldo Member Username: Brian_fitzcarraldo Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2007 |
so what's the difference between street cars and LRT? | ||
Dtowncitylover Member Username: Dtowncitylover Post Number: 515 Registered: 02-2008 |
oh no, not this discussion again. we already have a thread on this. | ||
Russix Member Username: Russix Post Number: 211 Registered: 11-2006 |
John Gallagher is apparently very biased in his reporting and is a tool for M1-RAIL. If the M1-RAIL design ever becomes public before its actually built he needs to do a comparison article with DTOGS to redeem himself. ^"so what's the difference between street cars and LRT?" https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/5/179477.html?1236981561 ^"it has been reported they've had talks with DTOGS, and who knows what might have come of that? " Wrote into DTOGS and received this reply "We continue to work towards merging the DTOGS project and the M-1 Rail project. It is true that the M-1 Rail group has moved forward with their project but we are working together on making the two projects one. Many of these conversations have occurred and continue to occur. DTOGS is working under the FTA and NEPA guidelines and regulations. The DTOGS project hopes to have NEPA Scoping (or public meetings) in May 2009. We will let you know when these meetings will be occuring. Once again, thanks for your support on the DTOGS - Woodward Avenue LRT project" | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4289 Registered: 10-2003 |
I was beginning to believe John Gallagher was black-balling DTOG's proposal, and it looks like I may be right. BTW, I don't know why anyone should simply assume that DTOG's and M1-RAIL's plans have been reconciled. If anything, it would seem that the two are still at odds with one another and DTOG's bullshit response as displayed in the reply, above, is proof of that. There'd be no other reason for M1-RAIL to be whoring it up so much in the media, on its own, if it'd already been reconciled with the DTOG proposal. | ||
Kahnman Member Username: Kahnman Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2006 |
What the heck?!? No Trainman post?!?! Something MUST have happened to him... |
