  Stosh Member Username: Stosh Post Number: 106 Registered: 01-2009 |
Just another feather in our cap. The roof is leaking at Cobo due to the rains. Classic cars are getting wet, not very happy exhibitors. No news link as of yet, but channel 4 had it on their newscast. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 632 Registered: 02-2006 |
It's just typical news and their negative reporting about Detroit and it's jewels. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6205 Registered: 08-2004 |
Get the 5 City Council holdout members with buckets to salvage the reputation of their crown jewel... | ||
Zrx_doug Member Username: Zrx_doug Post Number: 817 Registered: 03-2008 |
True enough..saw it myself tonite while checking out the show with my nephew.. The tarps that were pointed out in last weeks news are out in full force on the main floor, strung from roof supports to catch the water. Likewise, one of the escalators from the main floor to the basement was out of service.. Oh, and by the way, you can let MonCon know that well over 90% of the Cobo workers I spotted had "faces like hers." ("Like hers" in pigmentation only, not a one of 'em appeared to be insane or mentally challenged.) | ||
Brg Member Username: Brg Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2009 |
The story is on their website. http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/18880289/detail.html | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 1286 Registered: 04-2006 |
When I went to the auto show, I noticed a pretty substantial leak at one end of the basement. I don't know if that has anything to do with this or not, but either way, I'm not surprised. I wonder when Monica was last inside Cobo... | ||
Giver108 Member Username: Giver108 Post Number: 41 Registered: 06-2008 |
What more can be said, the place is a dump. You can only polish a turd for so long... | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 968 Registered: 08-2007 |
Would the Rock Showplace in Novi be big enough to handle Autorama?I would be P.O.'d if my car was getting rained on inside Cobo. (Message edited by reddog289 on March 08, 2009) | ||
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott Post Number: 1885 Registered: 12-2006 |
That's an interesting question, Reddog. Does anyone know what the available square footage is for Novi, compared to the exhibition space at Cobo? | ||
Leannam1989 Member Username: Leannam1989 Post Number: 211 Registered: 06-2008 |
I wouldn't blame the classic car owners for not wanting to return next year with a roof like that and leaky tarps. Classic cars aren't meant to get wet. I don't see why the state appointing a representative to look after a new Cobo deal is such a big deal to City Council. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4245 Registered: 10-2003 |
Rock Financial Showplace has 215,000 square feet of exhibition space, and Cobo 700,000 square feet. They are on two very different scales. It depends on how much space Autorama use, what type of amenities and services they like, the number of adjacent hotel rooms, etc...anyone know how long they've been coming to Cobo? It's a relatively large show, so perhaps Cobo would be their only option. From the News: quote: Anyone know how many rooms are in the immediate vicinity of Rock Financial ShowPlace? (Message edited by lmichigan on March 08, 2009) | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 969 Registered: 08-2007 |
I belive that Autorama moved to Cobo in 1961,according to the 50th anniversary program I pulled off the bookshelf.Not having been to the Rock I was unsure of the size of the place. | ||
Zrx_doug Member Username: Zrx_doug Post Number: 819 Registered: 03-2008 |
No, Rock Financial couldn't manage the Autorama even if you used a shoehorn..they can barely cram the Cycle World International Motorcycle Show in their available space, and that event's got about a fifth of the exhibitors that the Cobo version of "Autorama" puts on the main floor, which isn't even counting all the local guys in the basement. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 2608 Registered: 10-2003 |
I would estimate double, perhaps triple, the number of cars on display for Autorama compared to NAIAS. They squeeze cars into every corner of that place and lack the huge displays NAIAS has that take up lots of space. | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 823 Registered: 11-2003 |
According to Martha Reeves (Please reference the "Martha Reeves on Frank Beckman" post), people from the suburbs have been controlling COBO, so please call THEM and report that this jewel has a leaking roof. It is THEM's fault. (Message edited by rjlj on March 08, 2009) | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 970 Registered: 08-2007 |
I should be in bed cause I am going to the Autorama today.From the sound of this I might have to bring my rain gear.I subscribe to a few car mags and Autorama is in most of them.This show gets alot of national press. | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 336 Registered: 02-2006 |
You know with an election for mayor going on you would think that Ken Cockrell or Dave bing would make an appearance at this show. Not that the voters have cars there but to at least take some sort of stand. If I had a car there, I wouldn't be too thrilled with Cobo. And like it or not, this is one of the major events at Cobo for the year. Heaven knows Conyers or any of the other band of idiots appearing there would placate or enthuse the participants or attendees. | ||
Hornist9 Member Username: Hornist9 Post Number: 216 Registered: 05-2005 |
Isn't this just typical. Monica rails on about losing one of the City's "Jewels" but the City can't be bothered to keep Cobo in decent condition. With the mentality of the Council and administration for many years now, it's no wonder why the entire City is in the shit-hole. This kind of mentality goes back to the days of Coleslaw, when he basically ignored the neighborhoods and most of the whites moved out due to poor city services and the decaying school system. Now it's so messed up that I doubt it can ever be fixed. Jenny should exhibit some guts and step to save Cobo before it looks like so many other of vacant properties south of Eight Mile. | ||
Nellonfury Member Username: Nellonfury Post Number: 235 Registered: 03-2005 |
I was watching this an hour ago during the news and this is very sad for the Autorama. Does Monica "Ghetto" Conyers care? The way she'll put it: "HELL NO!! | ||
Thames Member Username: Thames Post Number: 413 Registered: 02-2007 |
Monica caring all depends on the circumstances. Was the car owner black or white? Was the car owner from the suburbs or the city? If the guy was white and from the suburbs, then no, she won't care cuz, according to her, a person that doesn't look like her shouldn't be in the city anyways. Mr. Whitey suburb man should take his fancy car and his money and get the fuck out. No wait, go on a head and leave the money and then he can take his lily white ass and hit 8 mile. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 1229 Registered: 11-2003 |
How long before one of the city council members suggest that this problem could be solved by handing out buckets with chin straps to the Cobo Hall visitors? | ||
Sumas Member Username: Sumas Post Number: 789 Registered: 01-2008 |
Conyer's wanting Detroiters to look like her is an insult to every attractive African American. | ||
Toolbox Member Username: Toolbox Post Number: 425 Registered: 10-2003 |
Just sing Onward Christian Soldiers, click the heels on your ruby slippers together 3 times and all will be well | ||
Thoswolfe Member Username: Thoswolfe Post Number: 108 Registered: 11-2007 |
Novi's Rock Financial Center may not be big enough, but there's a huge place in Auburn Hills that would be ill suited for anything else but a Corporate HQ or as an exposition center. | ||
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch Post Number: 1350 Registered: 02-2006 |
quote: I was there Saturday, and this broken escalator created such a bottle neck of people, it was ridiculous. The people coming down had no where to but into a mob of others waiting to go up. The escalator sometimes worked, but a security guard would let "x" amount of people go up, and the escaltor would suddenly stop. The people on it would walk the rest of the way up. Once those peole were off, more would be allowed to get on, and everyone would go through the same cycle again and again. They should have just turned the stupid thing off. | ||
Canuc_420 Member Username: Canuc_420 Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2009 |
I was stuck on that escalator for three hours before they got it going again.!! Detroits sinking and monica cant swim. | ||
Roq Member Username: Roq Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2009 |
"I was stuck on that escalator for three hours before they got it going again.!!" How the hell do you get stuck on an escalator? I mean, it's not like you can't manually start walking down or up it. | ||
Canuc_420 Member Username: Canuc_420 Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2009 |
That explains all the looks.!! Thanks for clearing that up for me Roq. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 1687 Registered: 11-2003 |
LOL I was thinking the same thing... I can see if it were an elevator.... but for real 3 hours? Canuc... did you even go to the show or are you just trying to add more weight to the story? | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 536 Registered: 09-2008 |
Kind of like many in Detroit. They expect someone else to help them out. Some times you have to help yourself out to get where you want to go. | ||
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch Post Number: 1352 Registered: 02-2006 |
The security guard wouldn't let anyone back on the escalator until it started moving again. If he would have hit the stop button, it could have been used as stairs and there would not have been a problem. | ||
Canuc_420 Member Username: Canuc_420 Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2009 |
IT WAS A JOKE PEOPLE.I WAS NOT ON IT FOR THREE HOURS JEEZZ. | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 672 Registered: 06-2007 |
"Conyer's wanting Detroiters to look like her is an insult to every attractive African American." The cobo employees do work she wont do. Give her a mop and bucket and she'll tell you that you are reinforcing a racist stereotype about black women as maids. She should welcome white suburbanites to work there. That way, she can mess up the bathrooms just to watch someone from Oakland or Macomb county get clean it up....Let them do what she would consider demeaning. I respect service industry workers. Especially when compared side to side with Conyers. One will have gone home having truly had a productive day.Hint:It aint Monica. | ||
Scooter2k7 Member Username: Scooter2k7 Post Number: 219 Registered: 10-2007 |
Those cars do not look like Monica Conyers' cars so they should not be there! For Cobo we fit a stereotype for everything involved in it. Unless the council is driving a bunch of restored, vintage cars (and they would be dumb to) then they do not belong in Cobo. I heard that they serve Pepsi in Cobo because Coke does not look like the pop can in Monica's house. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 2470 Registered: 08-2007 |
Canuc, welcome and take heart, maybe some people thought you were yet another DPS graduate. | ||
Eriedearie Member Username: Eriedearie Post Number: 3804 Registered: 08-2007 |
Canuc - I believe they got it and they were just funnin' with 'ya! It was a good joke, made me LOL!  | ||
Ferntruth Member Username: Ferntruth Post Number: 772 Registered: 11-2006 |
"Canuc, welcome and take heart, maybe some people thought you were yet another DPS graduate." Hey! I went to DPS!! Me not smart? That's unpossible!! | ||
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob Post Number: 1852 Registered: 10-2003 |
"Escalators can never break. They just become stairs" -Mitch Hedberg (RIP) | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 1291 Registered: 04-2006 |
quote:That's exactly what I thought of when I saw the direction this thread was taking. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4246 Registered: 10-2003 |
The reporting on this in the Free Press and News was odd, today. It's like they went looking to tell everyone the roof was leaking, but most people didn't seem to care. The manager of the show also crept around the issue by saying that "If this isn't addressed, they're going to lose events," which purposefully doesn't mention that they'll lose his event. It makes me wonder how bad the situation really is. Certainly a strange mix of quotes: quote: Another: quote: And this: quote: I guess it seems as long as they are making money, they'll put up with the leaky roof. | ||
Olddetroiter Member Username: Olddetroiter Post Number: 1440 Registered: 04-2008 |
Let Monica fix it. | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 971 Registered: 08-2007 |
I made it there Sunday. Saw the tarps holing back the water up in the rafters.What got me mad was the one bathroom I used. The hand dryers didn,t work, the paper towel dispener that had towels in it was falling of the wall, and the water faucets wouldn't shut off. Water and money going down the drain as the DW&S raises rates. Otherwise I did enjoy the show. | ||
Mortgageking Member Username: Mortgageking Post Number: 268 Registered: 12-2006 |
An escalator can never break. It can only become stairs. You would never see an "Escalator Temporarily Out Of Order" sign, just "Escalator Temporarily Stairs...... Sorry for the convenience." | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6208 Registered: 08-2004 |
^^^ Not true... haven't you ever seen escalators that are broken being closed down so that the mechanics can be worked on (usually at the bottom of the escalator)? They do close periodically for maintenance. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 9577 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Mitch Hedberg? My favorite. | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 702 Registered: 12-2003 |
Honestly, having some roof leaks on a large facility like Cobo during this time of year isn't that unusual, and should also not be taken as a sign of a total lack of a maintenance program. Fixing a roof with any kind of temporary patch is as useless as filling a pothole before a snow storm in the Winter. In the case of roofs, and depending on what type, even walking on it can do more harm than any repair. | ||
Michiman Member Username: Michiman Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2009 |
As the owner of a classic car, if I had mine on display there, there's no way I'd ever go back. You take it there figuring it's inside, so it'll be safe and dry. Who'd ever think you'd need a tarp for an inside show?? | ||
Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 552 Registered: 08-2004 |
Monica believes that it was a conspiracy b/c the roof didn't leak for the autoshow of the dogshow. I guess she missed the fact that we were supposed to have close to 2 inches of rain? She also says that the media did not have permission to be inside Cobo, and should not have been let in. I guess she doesn't believe that the media should be promoting any of the event held there. | ||
Bobl Member Username: Bobl Post Number: 620 Registered: 07-2008 |
So, what's a little rain? Those cars don't look like mine. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 2818 Registered: 10-2003 |
I agree with Gistok. And I will say BRC needs to go to the sanitarium. Either that or she really is a cunt. | ||
Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 554 Registered: 08-2004 |
Crain's picked up the bit I posted about Monica's claim that the press were trespassing at Cobo & her questioning the timing of the leaks. They also talk about it being cost prohibitive to expand to 1,000,000 sq ft b/c of the cost in relocating the People Mover. http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a rticle/20090309/FREE/903099980 Video of the comments are at around 1:16 http://apps.detnews.com/apps/multimedia/player/index.php?id=3234 (Message edited by leland_palmer on March 10, 2009) | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 973 Registered: 08-2007 |
You know if the I wasn't aware of the roof leaks. I might have not paid much thought to the other problems with Cobo. But the roof leaks and all the "Big Show" got me pissed.Detroit does not have enough money to provide services to it's residents and yet some of it's council members piss and moan about a take over by "Whitey suburban non -Detroiters".This whole thing IS ONE BIG JOKE. | ||
Crash_nyc Member Username: Crash_nyc Post Number: 402 Registered: 08-2004 |
You're not alone. I went to the last day of the New York International Auto Show 2 years ago at the Javits Center, when it rained 8 inches in one day. It seemed like about 1/4 of the cars were covered with tarps to shield them from the water pouring through the roof, and their people were running around like keystone cops with buckets. Much like Cobo, the Javits is an aging relic in dire need of an overhaul, if not replacement. | ||
One_shot Member Username: One_shot Post Number: 151 Registered: 11-2003 |
I think its amazing that Conica actually believes the roof leak is a conspiracy. And all the other old hens around her too! Does she realize it wasn't pouring rain for the dog show and prior to that it was too cold for rain??? WTF!!! | ||
Bobl Member Username: Bobl Post Number: 625 Registered: 07-2008 |
"Conyers told the assemblage she questioned the leaks, given the public debate about the condition and value of the 49-year-old facility. Council’s fiscal analyst has said that in part because of the need for renovations and repairs, Cobo has a negative net value. Conyers also accused reporters of trespassing at the publicly owned facility to report the leaks." So, according to the expert president of City Council, the fact that we received two inches of rain was irrelevant to the leaks, and newspeople who are covering events at the show are trespassing? Monicalogic 101 |
