Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 1563 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:10 pm: | |
According to TSN, Brad Stuart will return to Detroit for four years with a contract averaging $3.75 million per year. Meanwhile, TSN is also reporting that Edmonton has traded Joni Pitkanen to Carolina for Erik Cole. Edmonton has gotten good, fast. |
Umbound Member Username: Umbound
Post Number: 192 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:57 pm: | |
Look for them to be one of the top teams next year in the west. As far as the east goes id love to see Mats Sundin or Marian Hossa go to Montreal, Le Habs is one of my favorite teams in the east. but the Red Wings dont need to change much either they got Stuart signed now so props to Ken Holland. |
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 724 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:01 pm: | |
I'd still like to see them get Rolston or Sundin for one year. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 8331 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:17 pm: | |
It makes me wonder how Kronwall is feeling about all this. If Kronwall is making $3 mil a year and Stuart is making $3.5, does this upset the apple cart of talent? |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1106 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:24 pm: | |
The Lightning traded for the rights to Rolston on Monday. I think Sundin for 1 or 2 years makes the most sense. Rolstons family is from Linden, Mi, just outside of Flint. When the Devils won the Stanley cup a few years ago, after sweeping the Wings, I was lucky enough to attended Rolstons Stanley cup party. |
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_
Post Number: 2302 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:28 pm: | |
According to ESPN, Rolston said he would test the market. |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 1564 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:36 pm: | |
Nothing big yet, unless you like Tampa Bay. They got Vrbata from Phoenix for 3 years, $9 million. |
Raptor56 Member Username: Raptor56
Post Number: 370 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:46 pm: | |
http://redwings.nhl.com/team/a pp/?service=page&page=NewsPage &articleid=367320 |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 8333 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 3:42 pm: | |
Ty Conklin signs on for a one year deal. He could easily push Jimmy Howard and even give Chris Osgood a good spell too. Look what he did for Pittsburgh when Marc-Andre Fleury went down for a stretch. Nice smart signing here and not for much money too. Another savvy Kenny Holland move. |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 851 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 5:07 pm: | |
Conklin is the number 2 for sure. Howard isn't NHL ready yet |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 8336 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 5:14 pm: | |
I'd rather not settle on who's a number one, two or three in nets just yet. I'd rather let them duke it out in training camp and see who rises above it all. If Jimmy Howard or Conklin can swipe the reigns from Osgood, then more power to them! Prime example was when Dom was anointed the number one before the playoffs. Osgood came in, took charge and led us to the promised land. I say leave it be, let the competition begin for the starting job -it's open! |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 1565 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 5:49 pm: | |
Brian Campbell goes to Chicago, along with Huet. Chicago has gotten really good, really fast. |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 857 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 8:21 pm: | |
Smog...Little different... Goalies in the NHL take AWHILE to develop, very rarely (see MA Fluery) do goalies mature rapidly enough to start before they are 22-23. Jimmy has seen very limited time between the pipes. While I do believe he is the goalie of Red Wings future...its gonna take him a couple years...the wings need an established back up to support ozzy when he needs a breather, and they got exactly that in Conklin...Howards at least a year from being an everyday back up.. |
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 725 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 8:36 pm: | |
Apparently TSN reported earlier that the Wings offered Hossa a 7 year deal worth around $7 million a year. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 8340 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 2:35 am: | |
D_mcc, forgive me for being somewhat skeptical of the Wings (nearly sacreligious!) but outside of Osgood, they've never really been strong when it comes to developing their goalies. Jimmy Howard might very well not be the goalie of the future. There have been the likes just recently of Stefan Liv, Joey MacDonald, Logan Koopmans, and Daniel Larsson that all have held promise. The majority of the Wings goaltenders that have held serve in the nets have always been relatively established goalies that we've traded for or acquired through different means. I don't know if it's a Kenny Holland directive but even though they keep drafting them (this year's pick of Thomas McCollum), there rarely seems to be a goalie that rises up within our ranks to become the number one. If there is one weakness in the Detroit scouting system (again, more blasphemy!), it's that they seldom seem to get netminders who are diamonds in the rough. And even if Conklin unseats Osgood this year as the number one goalie, I wouldn't mind as long as we have a stellar backstop in nets for us. He sparked the Penguins for awhile when Fleury was down so he seems to have the knack for solid play and I even remember his stellar international play when he was on the national team. Why he's never been rooted in with one team has always baffled me and why Pittsburgh decided not to sign him to mentor Fleury was stunning too. |
Umbound Member Username: Umbound
Post Number: 193 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 10:47 am: | |
Yea, smogboy your right about that, but i think in about 6-7 years Thomas McCollum is going to be a great goalie. The Wings dont waste their drafts picks very often, and especially a first rounder used on a goalkeeper also. |
7andkelly Member Username: 7andkelly
Post Number: 891 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 1:20 pm: | |
Stuart, Conklin, Hossa...all good signs. Hopefully, Sean Avery is next on the list. Retire McCarty, and his number, promote him to assistant coach, and we're good to go. Drop the puck. |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 1566 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 1:37 pm: | |
Celebrate good times come on... Hossa coming here for 1 year, $7.4 million according to TSN . http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?i d=242261&lid=headline&lpos=top Story_main As for Avery, he is going to Dallas, according to TSN. (Message edited by SCS100 on July 02, 2008) |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 863 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 2:22 pm: | |
Yup...hossa... that is SICK |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 864 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 2:26 pm: | |
Smoggy... Basically...you draft as many goalies as you can..because about 1 in 7 have the skills develop to NHL caliber |
Raptor56 Member Username: Raptor56
Post Number: 374 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 2:28 pm: | |
I haven't been this excited about NHL Free Agency in about 5 years. Lot's of big names changing scenery, and a bunch of good deals for the Wings! I'm surprised Kolzig is out of Washington, and Cujo still ahs a job (ironically back in Toronto) http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/ ?id=11353&lid=sublink02&lpos=t opRelated_main |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 8344 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 4:53 am: | |
"Basically...you draft as many goalies as you can..because about 1 in 7 have the skills develop to NHL caliber" What worries me about the Wings here is that while we can turn seventh round draft picks into gold, how come we can't seem to develop a goalie ourselves? Is Jim Bedard responsible for this? They draft well for forwards and defensemen very well but with goalies- no such luck. Where is our team's goalie development? Even within the last dozen or so years of Wings' goalie draft picks, who's really even playing at the NHL level? One in seven picks might even be generous. Philosophically the Wings go out and bring in the best ESTABLISHED netminders out there as opposed to developing their own. They seem to let others mold them a little bit, get them battle tested and THEN bring them onboard. Obviously it's worked so far. |
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc
Post Number: 920 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 9:37 am: | |
Smog...its like baseball...some teams develop pitchers...and other people grab them after a few years. Like Oakland...they always have an outstanding young pitching staff...but always trade away their guys. The Wings have developed Osgood and Legace...its simply a matter of how good people are when they arrive. Thats why you are seeing an influx of European goalers. They play untill they are 23-24 before NHL teams even think about grabbing them after they have developed, simply because developing a goalie is so much more time consuming and labor intensive than say a blue-liner or a forward. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 8346 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 5:26 pm: | |
Manny Legace wasn't a Detroit developed product. He was first drafted by LA, played the Long Beach Ice Dogs & Manitoba Moose. |