Sean_of_detroit Member Username: Sean_of_detroit
Post Number: 2176 Registered: 03-2008
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 4:58 pm: | |
Link: http://tinyurl.com/co3k63 Excerpt: 'The Downtown Collection is aggressively searching for Non Profits interested in basing themselves in Downtown Detroit. We have begun a campaign to develop our First National Building into a Non Profit Mecca. With affordable rates, flexible leasing and space for all size Non Profits we hope to develop the building into a community that is centralized in Detroit.' |
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 1174 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 5:24 pm: | |
Nothing against non-profits, but historically that's a sign that the property is desperate for tenants. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4071 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 11:52 pm: | |
Sean, just so you know, here is the formatting page that tells you how to post links and such. You don't have to use tinyurl. |
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 691 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 12:03 am: | |
You know that a building is desperate for tenants when it starts posting on Craigslist. |
Bagman Member Username: Bagman
Post Number: 140 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 7:47 am: | |
The building already has non-profits, ask any tenant who has been paying rent. These landlords don't care if you are making a profit just that you pay the rent. I ran a non profit for 4 years before I decided that, the rent no matter how small, just was not worth it. I will say that if these buildings were run as they were 30-50 years ago we would not have the vacancy problems that we have. The First National along with its sister The Penobscot are by far two of the worst run buildings in Downtown, ask any tenant or better yet ask a former tenant why they left....... |
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c
Post Number: 704 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 8:47 am: | |
OK...why did you leave? |
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 580 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 9:13 am: | |
Completely agree Gsgeorge. |
Bagman Member Username: Bagman
Post Number: 142 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 2:50 pm: | |
SALES, SALES, SALES or lack there of. Which is why Borders is leaving, Starbucks already gone, and every other independent/ family-run small business is also gone. Ask Lafayette or American Coney Island how many dogs they must sell to stay open. Even they admit there is a limit to how little one can take in and keep the doors open. Don't forget that the family run small business can stop taking money for salaries and only take what is needed to survive, Corporations MUST pay the help and they don't have pay-less paydays like I did for 4 years. The only fix is more people, not a few thousand either, Downtown needs numbers like back in the '80s when there were another 100,000 people at noon in Downtown than there are today. If you were there you'd remember, if not, then you have no idea. |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 2590 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 2:59 pm: | |
quote:The only fix is more people, not a few thousand either, Downtown needs numbers like back in the '80s when there were another 100,000 people at noon in Downtown than there are today. Bagman, I am curious, do you still live in the city? |
Bagman Member Username: Bagman
Post Number: 143 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 3:36 pm: | |
3rd and Willis, in the heart of the Cass Corridor. Unfortunately there is a real VALUE issue here. You either have such a great deal on where you live you overlook what is lacking or you are clueless and don't get that when you pay $700-$1000 a month rent you should not have to leave the city to buy the staples life requires...... You should see the look on peoples face when I rave about what I love about the city, BUSES (you have not lived until you spent time riding a DOT coach) EASTERN MARKET (where else can you watch your food get slaughtered, or buy food from a black man that he grew himself?), TIGER BASEBALL (of course you do have to put up with the suburbanites at the ball park) to name a few. |
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 3:42 pm: | |
You really don't have to leave nowadays, Bagman. Just a few years ago, I'd say you'd be right. As far "staples," what is it that Eastern Market, Zaccaro's, University, Avalon, CVS, and Delux or Honest John's do not provide (I assume alcohol as a staple)? Maybe the occasional Target/Costco run. But you'd have to get in your car and drive a bit for those even if you lived in the suburbs. |