Amgasper01 Member Username: Amgasper01
Post Number: 90 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 8:15 pm: | |
I'm considering taking some credits next semester to wrap up an associates degree I started at another school. Has anyone on the forum attended classes there and want to share their opinions and experiences regarding the school? Thanks! |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 2003 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 9:35 pm: | |
I attended classes there one semester. I have nothing bad to say about the place. I was able to easily get 15 credits in one semester that transferred to Wayne State, learn a lot and have a GPA of 3.8. It was also dirt cheap. You definitely get more than what you pay for when it comes to WC3D. (Message edited by Detroitplanner on November 13, 2008) |
Docterry Member Username: Docterry
Post Number: 133 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 8:50 am: | |
I've done a couple of guest spots there and have many conversations with some of the admin and faculty. I was/am impressed with their willingness to identify and meet the needs of non-traditional students. The students I know who attend there are satisfied. Parking seemed to be the only challenge. Oh, yeah - and very long lines if you want to buy lunch there when classes are also getting out. But there are other lunch choices within a couple of blocks that are quite good. |
Imhere Member Username: Imhere
Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:25 pm: | |
I went there back in the Early-Mid nineties. I have an Associates degree from WCCC. Graduated with Honors in 1998. Most of my classes were taken at the DT complex. Back then the classes were fine, they were just starting to put in computers, etc so I don't know how well that turned out. My credits transferred to Walsh just fine. I have nothing bad to say about them, I have thought about going back for a 2nd associates but don't have the motivation for it. (Message edited by ImHere on November 14, 2008) |
Meaghansdad Member Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 279 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:48 pm: | |
A lot of teenagers in the day. If you take evening classes you'll be OK. |
Sumas Member Username: Sumas
Post Number: 348 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 1:02 pm: | |
I have great respect for WC3. The faculty and administration at all locations are great. It is inexpensive and credits transfer. Student of all ages attend. That said, the downtown campus sucks, bad parking and the student body hates white folk. I suggest the eastern campus on Connor, easy to get to, right off I 94 and a much friendlier place. I once had a small problem and called a cental number. The person, I contacted, said "let me guess, the central campus, right?" |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 2314 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 10:30 pm: | |
"the student body hates white folk" I've taken a few classes there. All the classes had several white people in them. No problems or concerns from them nor towards them. |
Sumas Member Username: Sumas
Post Number: 349 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 7:50 am: | |
At the time I attended WC2 Central, I worked for a black owned, black operated firm. I live in a neighborhood that I love that is predominantly black. I currently have several black clients/black friends and I spend 100% of my disposable income within the city. Add to that, I volunteer time to at least four neighborhood non profits in the city that are not in my neighborhood and have received two volunteer of the year awards for my extensive service. Given my resume, does it sound like I am the type of person to cry racism? I was treated very poorly on several occasions at the central campus by individuals in the student body. I also took classes and have attended civic affairs at the Connor campus which also is predominantly a black student body. It was a great experience every time. The classes I take are a form of continuing education. I have a BA from Wayne State, another urban institution. I chose to attend there but was accepted and could have gone to MSU or Michigan. My sibs graduated from Eastern, Northern and MSU. I have supported millages for WC3 every time because I think it is a fine institution that more people should use. Racism exists in subtle forms everywhere and in every culture in this society. I did not imagine the treatment I received and am trying to give voice to my concerns that all people need to strive for civility, tolerance and should embrace diversity which is more than a two way street. |
Docterry Member Username: Docterry
Post Number: 137 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 3:30 pm: | |
Just curious, Sumas - when did you attend? I've never seen or heard the kind of incidents/attitude you're talking about, either and am wondering about the time frame. |
Scarlet_crush Member Username: Scarlet_crush
Post Number: 13 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 3:53 pm: | |
I attend the downtown campus. I am white and I am a minority there forsure, but have found it to be an enriching experience. I have been met with nothing but kindness. The person who said that the people at the downtown campus hate white people may have some kind of bias or underlying issue, I don't know. Maybe they really did hate him, but maybe he had a bad attitude. I don't know the guy so I don't know. I'm just saying that in no way have I felt any racism. I think it's interesting to assume that the asker is white, though. Anyway, I have had adequate teachers and exceptional teachers. I have been challenged by my classes. For the money, I would say it is an excellent value and deserves your consideration. I am very glad that I made the choice to attend. |
Docterry Member Username: Docterry
Post Number: 139 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 4:05 pm: | |
I wasn't assuming anything about Sumas' background/race/ethnicity, and I didn't read that in Bvos' reply - or do you mean you are assuming that, Scarlet? |
Scarlet_crush Member Username: Scarlet_crush
Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 4:23 pm: | |
No, I meant the original asker. The person who started the post asking about the school. We don't know that person's race, so it seems silly to warn them them that whites are hated at the downtown campus. |
Scarlet_crush Member Username: Scarlet_crush
Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 4:43 pm: | |
Actually, let me further clarify by saying that I think the statement made by Sumas was silly, period. It doesn't matter that the original asker could be from ANY racial background. To make a sweeping generalization about an entire student body based on a couple of your own personal experiences in unfair. You may have been unlucky and met some real jerks, Sumas. Or maybe you are not taking personal responsibility for your part in making enemies at the school. Who knows? Either scenario is possible. I just think it's irresponsible to say that the student body is hostile to whites, because it is a sweeping generalization and it holds real power. Those are words that could prevent someone from attending the school and perpetuate segregation in our city. Many white people who live in Detroit pay higher tuition to attend OCC, just because they are scared to be the white minority and I think it's a shame. WCCCD is an excellent community resource. If anyone is ever nasty to me there, I will know that it is the individual who is hostile towards me, and I won't make the mistake of pointing my finger at the "student body". |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 1521 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 4:54 pm: | |
Only bad thing I can say about it is that they tore down the gorgeous Union Depot to build the downtown campus: www.buildingsofdetroit.com/pla ces/union |
Sumas Member Username: Sumas
Post Number: 350 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 8:30 pm: | |
Sounds to me like you are the one making sweeping generalizations. A question was asked, I answered. My individual experience was poor. I attended classes there winter/spring 2006/2007. I took time to write a post explaining where I stand on racial issues and my support for WC3. I only suggested an alternative campus. It would be nice if people would bother to read complete posts. FOR THE RECORD, WCC3 IS THE BEST VALUE IN TOWN! Oh yes, while I was there there the ATM machine in the lobby got stolen. So I got to look at boarded windows. |
Amgasper01 Member Username: Amgasper01
Post Number: 91 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 9:31 pm: | |
You know, in most parts of the country, the male/female ratio at a particular school is the topic of conversation, not its black/white racial makeup, but I guess that's not the case in Detroit. For the record, I am a whiteboy, but i live in a cit that is 82% black so i would expect to be and not care about being the minority. If I had a hankering for getting my education with a bunch of fellow crackers I'd be registering at Macomb Community College. I was thinking more along the lines of quality of education, accessibility of professors, professionalism of the administrative staff, etc. Thanks to those of you who helped answer the important questions. |
Scarlet_crush Member Username: Scarlet_crush
Post Number: 16 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 9:53 pm: | |
Sorry we got off track. Best of luck to you. If you go, I highly recommend Mr. Wright who teaches American Government. He is one of the best teachers I have ever had. |
Busterwmu Member Username: Busterwmu
Post Number: 574 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 11:33 pm: | |
I think the learning experience would be much better if it were still FSUD. Just my thoughts though. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 7518 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 3:01 pm: | |
OK, maybe I was out of town when this was announced... but why did they add "District" to WCCCD? Anyone know? Usually when this type of change takes place... new stationary, new signage, etc. has to be ordered... i.e. new "contracts" bid out to the most politically connected... |
Sumas Member Username: Sumas
Post Number: 355 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 5:40 am: | |
Don't be so practical, it is just tax dollars being wasted. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 2005 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:03 am: | |
Wayne County is unusual in that it has more than one Community College District. Adding the D helps explain to folks in Livonia or Dearborn that while they are welcome to attend WC3D, they will not get the lower tuition cost because they are in the Henry Ford or Schoolcraft Districts. |
Scarlet_crush Member Username: Scarlet_crush
Post Number: 19 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:18 am: | |
I may be incorrect, but I think that the residency requirement for the least expensive tuition @ WCCCD is simply that you are a resident of Wayne County. Henry Ford on the other hand, has a much stricter policy and to receive the resident rate, you must live within the city of Dearborn. I'm not sure about Schoolcraft. |