  Sg9018 Member Username: Sg9018 Post Number: 288 Registered: 10-2006 |
Gov.Granholm join Obama's economic transition team Granholm will meet Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden in Chicago on Friday. http://www.freep.com/article/2 0081106/NEWS15/81106063 | ||
Giver108 Member Username: Giver108 Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2008 |
Surely this is some sort of joke. Has Obama looked into the state's economic situation lately? Lord help us! | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 5160 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: 1. Granholm isn't the CEO of any of the automakers. She's not responsible for their shitty strategies. 2. If you want something done about conditions in Michigan and other blue collar states, you can't expect Obama's administration to guess at the problem and then find plausible solutions, as pertains to the federal role in promoting trade and regulating commerce. If there was no Michigan representation on the transition team, people would be bitching that Michigan is being ignored again. Do you want things fixed or not? Pick one and go with it. | ||
Bobby08 Member Username: Bobby08 Post Number: 94 Registered: 09-2008 |
Giver101, I heard a buzz about this a few weeks and I am in total agreeance with you. Get Michigan straight first, this is really scary people. | ||
Detroiterbychoice Member Username: Detroiterbychoice Post Number: 134 Registered: 04-2008 |
I heard she is supposed to be head of the department of energy. She would be vacating her term early and the lt gov. would take over. | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 269 Registered: 02-2006 |
Granholm in charge of "energy"? What an easy and stupid pun. "Blown away" Jennie working on installing windmills. BTW, want to "fix" the economy? Government has to stop spending money they don't have. Congress has to go on record with all trading "partners" that we cannot accept currency manipulation while allowing access to the American market. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1539 Registered: 12-2007 |
You guys...seriously...why is this scary? By working with the federal government...she IS helping Michigan... For every tax dollar Michigan pays...we get something like...75 cents in return...compare that to smaller states like...North Dakota...which gets 1.60$ Its a good thing... | ||
Detroiterbychoice Member Username: Detroiterbychoice Post Number: 136 Registered: 04-2008 |
If she was head of dept of energy think about all the jobs shed bring to the michigan auto industry. Solar, corn oil cars, etc. | ||
Giver108 Member Username: Giver108 Post Number: 24 Registered: 06-2008 |
It just seems to me that if I were to pick an economic transition team I would want someone who obviously has demonstrated some sort of success. Surely the demise of the auto industry is not Granholm's fault but it has mostly happened while on her watch. If I or anyone else was to apply for a job in any industry other than government with her economic resume we would get laughed out the door. I would like to see anyone in the private sector who is impressed by her record. Obviously, Obama must be. Good. He can appoint her to a cabinet position. That's two less years of ineffective state government leadership to suffer through with her as governor. Are people's expectations so low that this is the best Obama could do? Danindc, are you saying their is nobody more qualified to head up this "economic dream team"? | ||
Newport1128 Member Username: Newport1128 Post Number: 226 Registered: 05-2007 |
Secretary of Energy? Spencer Abraham's old job...some mighty big shoes to fill. Not. Even better, if she goes to D.C., John Cherry becomes governor for two years. Hurrah. Has that guy even in his life been anything but a professional politician? | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 2944 Registered: 12-2004 |
Well, Lt. Gov. Cherry also worked for some professional politicians before becoming one himself. http://www.michigan.gov/ltgov/ 0,1607,7-169--58524--,00.html | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 5163 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Have you ever heard of someone named Carly Fiorina? | ||
Mwilbert Member Username: Mwilbert Post Number: 431 Registered: 11-2007 |
I'm not saying Granholm has been a particularly good governor, but she has little or nothing to do with the demise of the auto industry. GM had almost 55% of US market share at its high point around 1954. In 2002, when Granholm was elected governor, GM's share was down to 28.4%. To suggest that she presided over the bulk of the decline, or had anything much to do with it at all, is not reasonable. | ||
Eastsideal Member Username: Eastsideal Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2007 |
She can't have a worse resume than the jokers who've run GM and Ford into the ground. D_mcc and Danindc are right. Whatever you think of Granholm as a Governor, having someone powerful at the table from the beginning of this administration is nothing but a good thing for Michigan. With a Democratic governor apparently gaining access to the halls of real power, 2 Democratic Senators - including one of the most powerful men in the Senate, and now a majority Democratic House delegation - including the 2 most senior reps, Michigan will have as much clout in Washington as it has had in a very long time. It's a good thing too, because we really need it now. | ||
Cinderpath Member Username: Cinderpath Post Number: 877 Registered: 05-2006 |
While I am not the biggest supporter of Granholm- all I can say about her being on Obama's economic transition team is: Thank God! Finally somebody at a federal level will hear, care and listen to problems happening here. This certainly would not have happened if the Red Team would have won! | ||
Raggedclaws Member Username: Raggedclaws Post Number: 275 Registered: 08-2006 |
Granholm and Bonior both seem like poor choices in respect to economic anything...except that, as stated in the above article, the role of the advisory board is still not immediately clear. Guess we'll have to wait and see. At first blush, tho ? Disappointing. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 9608 Registered: 10-2003 |
In only two days after the election, the door to Washington is open to her finally. Two major announcements from her office regarding the new connections. Nice to hear after all those years that the Washington powers seemed to think Michigan was part of Canada. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1461 Registered: 10-2003 |
"In only two days after the election, the door to Washington is open to her finally." We can only hope she walks through it and it shuts quickly! | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 3850 Registered: 01-2005 |
Reminds me of when JFK was elected. Everyone in Michigan was sure that Gov. Soapy Williams was in line for a top cabinet job. The deodorant heir had worked hard and tirelessly for the Kennedys. Came the appointment, it was "Assistant Secretary of State in charge of African Affairs". In other words, a nothing job. But he took it. Being a multimillionaire anyway, he didn't need a big paycheck and prolly figured he'd get some interesting trips out of it. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 5749 Registered: 10-2003 |
Oh fuck no. Do not mention John Cherry. He's the last person I'd want as a governor of this State. Hell, I'd rather have Dick Posthumus over him. | ||
Corvax Member Username: Corvax Post Number: 93 Registered: 11-2003 |
"agreeance"? | ||
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55 Post Number: 2361 Registered: 09-2005 |
Dubya appointed the likes of Ashcroft, Gonzales, Michael "Brownie" Brown, Gail Norton, Karl Rove, and other hacks to his inner circle and cabinet, and the resident right-wing whiners were thrilled with this losers. Genius McCain selected the joke called Sarah Palin to be his running mate, and the righties were so delighted they were drooling. Now they are complaining about Granholm? What a laugh. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1462 Registered: 10-2003 |
So Alan, don't hold back... The elections over. Your man is in. You control everything now. No more need to hate..cheer up! | ||
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55 Post Number: 2363 Registered: 09-2005 |
^^^^ Reread your last thousand posts, Irish, and take your own advice. (You should have chosen the handle "Irish Hate".) | ||
J_to_the_jeremy Member Username: J_to_the_jeremy Post Number: 130 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hopefully she can get some green manufacturing jobs to Michigan. I don't think it's a bad thing at all she's there. It's better than Washington just assuming Michigan is going to fix itself. Cause it's not, just look around. | ||
401don Member Username: 401don Post Number: 850 Registered: 11-2007 |
She's there to advise on the problems so that the others can develop solutions. It's akin to having victims at a crime summit provide their input. Nothing wrong with that. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1464 Registered: 10-2003 |
Alan, I just reread the posts....all the hate came from you. Its not nice to be mean. Now that you are on the winning side, try to be a nice guy. Now smile. Be happy. Wait for the redistribution. It should happen any time now  | ||
Detx Member Username: Detx Post Number: 200 Registered: 07-2007 |
http://info.detnews.com/redesi gn/blogs/nolanfinleyblog/index .cfm | ||
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn Post Number: 351 Registered: 02-2005 |
David Bonior as well. http://www.freep.com/article/2 0081106/NEWS15/81106063 | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1789 Registered: 12-2003 |
This thread is proof that sexism is so alive and well, and seemingly never going away. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2679 Registered: 08-2007 |
Wow, that's a pretty awesome mix of old hands and newer people. It should be interesting to watch them work. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 6823 Registered: 12-2005 |
This makes it clear that Obama's about to emphasize the economic issue. That ought to be welcomed. More specifically he's concerned about manufacturing. There's a change. It's good for Michigan to see the auto industry getting some long overdue attention. Could we please move the Granholm bashing to another thread? She's only one of many players in this much more important national issue. Thank you. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 2274 Registered: 11-2003 |
This is great news for Michigan! | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 2790 Registered: 07-2007 |
Yes, she will be out of the M soon, I can't wait. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5550 Registered: 06-2004 |
Michigan's government during Granholm's administration has been rated one of the best in the nation, including the state's website, Michigan.gov The implementation of technology and resultant efficiency and streamlining of services is something Obama repeatedly mentioned during his campaign. It's amusing that the same people who blame Granholm for the condition of Michigan's economy are the same people who want the Feds to be hands off business except for bailing out certain parties. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 4841 Registered: 11-2005 |
quote: She was interviewed on the news the other day and said she intends to finish her term as Gov. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1467 Registered: 10-2003 |
Lilpup, Who the hell is doing that rating? It just goes to show, if you reach far enough into the mud..you might find an oyster. Similar ratings from the same agency: Detroit's government during Kilpatrick's administration has been rated one of the best in the nation, including the city's cafeteria. The implementation of vending machines and resultant efficiency and streamlining of services is something his mother repeatedly mentioned during her campaign. It's amusing that the same people who blame Kilpatrick for the condition of Detroit's economy are the same people who want the State to be hands off business except for bailing out certain parties. Detroit's Board of Education during the present school board's administration has been rated one of the best in the nation, including the school's copper asset distribution program. The implementation of wealth distribution to uneducated scrappers and resultant efficiency and streamlining of services for the underclass is something Tony's Scrap metal shop repeatedly mentioned during the latest campaign. It's amusing that the same people who blame the school board for the condition of Detroit's school district are the same people who want the taxpayers funding the operation to be hands off business except for bailing out certain parties. Lilpup, you need to get a job as a press secretary. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5551 Registered: 06-2004 |
"Who the hell is doing that rating?" Pew Center on the States in their periodic Grading the States report (more available here). No industrial state ranked higher. quote: | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1618 Registered: 12-2004 |
I laughed so hard when I heard this news. Granholm needs to go, but not into a position with broader authority. | ||
Folk313 Member Username: Folk313 Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2008 |
Danindc: you're absolutely right. obama needs michigan representation among his advisers. there is a lot of granholm-bashing on this board. without a doubt, she has been a disappointing governor, but on this board and elsewhere she inappropriately gets blamed for the state's economic condition. she inherited from the previous administration an absolutely unsustainable policy mess in which she played no role. some of the comments made on this board in many threads over the past years suggest that granholm is some sort of sorceress that could wave her magic wand and create jobs if only she were willing. well that's just not the case. executives do not have a one-to-one, real-time relationship with the outcomes of economic policies, particularly in michigan where the woes are so implicitly related to the instability and unsustainability of the global free-market at large. not only that, but the clowns in the legislature have made it exceedingly difficult for her to take on substantive policy initiatives. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 1297 Registered: 11-2003 |
"without a doubt, she has been a disappointing governor," So why do you consider her to be a disappointing governor? Your post seems to blame everyone but Granholm. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 5175 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: If you read the profile in Governing Magazine, Michigan's biggest problem is its structural deficit. You'll note that it was the Legislature who repealed the SBT with no replacement alternative offered. You'll also note that Granholm proposed the Fix-It First initiative to save money on road construction. And at the end of the day, it's not the Governor's fault that three of the state's largest taxpayers can't put together a profitable business plan. | ||
Detroiterbychoice Member Username: Detroiterbychoice Post Number: 138 Registered: 04-2008 |
check out the photo op! http://elections.foxnews.com/2 008/11/07/obama-meets-team-eco nomic-experts/ | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 1468 Registered: 10-2003 |
3 impeccably qualified politicos...I'm sure that it will all work out just fine. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 5552 Registered: 06-2004 |
as if it's headed in the right direction now or would get turned around with more of the same | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 2862 Registered: 07-2007 |
Why doesn't she get rid of the moles via surgery, doesn't she have health care insurance. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 6407 Registered: 10-2003 |
You resurrected the thread for that? | ||
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott Post Number: 1693 Registered: 12-2006 |
A successful country has an industrial and trade policy that is beneficial to that country in some way. The United States hasn't had an industrial policy worthy of the name in decades, and our trade policy is a disgrace. "Free trade", if it existed, would be a wonderful thing (like real "Communism", which has never existed on a nationwide basis anywhere), but it's a pipe dream. What we've had as a trade policy for quite some time in the U.S. can only be referred to as "sucker trade": we'll take all of your goods, in exchange for which you don't have to take any of ours. We don't have a transportation policy either, come to think of it, or a real foreign policy. I'm not sure if P-E O can solve all of those problems at once. But if having Governor Jenny from the Block helps to get him thinking about industrial and trade policy at all, then it's worthwhile for her to have his ear. |
