  Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3375 Registered: 01-2004 |
Here is the original detroitblog article, http://www.detroitblog.org/?p= 549 Here is the article as it was written for metroTimes: http://metrotimes.com/editoria l/story.asp?id=13257 They are running teasers for it on morning news right now, the story will appear tonight on the 11 pm news. Now, if I had a billion dollars I would bet it on the fact that nobody at WDIV was exploring the City deep enough to come upon the gentleman naturally; the way we know detroitblog rolls. Do you think they will give credit to the Metro Times and to the author of the story they are running: "john" at detroitblog.org ? Now THAT I would NOT bet on. -> and so long as we are on the topic, what does everybody think of the new detroitblog design ? | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 7971 Registered: 02-2007 |
actually, they are ripping off the Metro Times, as that is where the article originated. it isn't at all unusual for TV news to keep an eye on other media and then create their own story. It's an interesting one, and I don't really have a problem with it reaching a broader audience | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3376 Registered: 01-2004 |
"actually", they are ripping off the author who wrote the article that does appear in Metro Times which I did mention should also be sourced. and yes, it isnt unusual for local television and newspapers to rip stuff off without sourcing the work. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1419 Registered: 11-2003 |
MSM (Mainstream Media) rarely credits anything. For instance, I think it's not cool when the NY Times sources or mentions a bunch of websites (at least they do that) where they get the info from - then does not link to them! It's all about keeping the traffic and viewers on your site/property. What I wish they would learn is the facts - linking out actually INCREASES your visibility and reputation. It's an ego thing. Few producers want people to say "first reported by..." if they can avoid it, and they probably thought that since it was from Detroitblog or MT not that many viewers would know. Or, they cut the credits out of the story to fit time. Still bad. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 2788 Registered: 02-2007 |
Some of the the news orgs surf the blogs looking for ideas. MSNBC even admits they do it. Nothing wrong with it really, as long as they admit it. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3377 Registered: 01-2004 |
This hasnt aired yet so they do still have the benefit of the doubt. But news agencies have a strong tendency not to cite competing agencies for story content. | ||
Cub Member Username: Cub Post Number: 911 Registered: 02-2007 |
That guy lives in my neighborhood. He is a cool dude. You should see his bike. It is cool seeing him in the rain with the hood on it and radio blasting. | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 238 Registered: 09-2008 |
Radio shows in the morning take stuff directly out of the newspapers all the time. They don't have to pay their news staffs much as a result. Someone else has already done their work for them. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3378 Registered: 01-2004 |
this is a big huge company stealing from this guy that creates shit just for the informational value and interest. just lame, no matter how it is justified. | ||
Eastsidedame Member Username: Eastsidedame Post Number: 618 Registered: 12-2006 |
They should get an attorney. Yet another reason 21st Century American journalism sucks. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3379 Registered: 01-2004 |
not sure that is actionable, but I find it completely unethical. it reveals their vast lack of skill and creativity. | ||
Daddeeo Member Username: Daddeeo Post Number: 239 Registered: 09-2008 |
Once stuff is out there, it is public property. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3380 Registered: 01-2004 |
"Once stuff is out there, it is public property." B U L L L L L L L L L L S H I T ! | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 3102 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sorry, this is no where near actionable or even unethical. It's a news story. Just like the other outlets picked up the Kwame text stories after the freep broke it. The other reporters can do there own research and post their own results. If Detroitblog wanted an exclusive he should have paid the subject of the story for an exclusive. That would have stopped the subject from talking to other reporters. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1423 Registered: 11-2003 |
It is NOT public property, Daddeo. You may think it is because it's available, but it's legally NOT. Copyright, the DMCA - there are many protections for various content creators. Although many young folks tend not to know the law, the law is strong and it is enforced (sometimes a little too harshly, admittedly, say around music file swapping - the penalty shouldn't be 10k a song or whatever) but it is. If you're working on a production - better get rights-cleared music and be prepared to pay licensing for it. Also, you can't just use any old photos for your blog or website you find on Google images - you need to take them yourself or get permission in one form or another (stock photo service, directly from the photographer, etc). Detroitblog should either do a Copyright mark or embrace a Creative Commons license of some form on every page (such as sharealike or attribute). It would be very advisable for them to stick in the footer, depending on how they want their content to be shared. Now, news organizations rip each other off all the time. There is something called "Fair use," which SHOULD be protected for news, public good and educational purposes. However, you need to cite your sources even then. They have the right to cover a story that others covered, but they need to cite. I'd actually like to see the transcript and see how much was lifted directly, if any. The big problem here, IMHO, is that they did NOT cite their sources. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3384 Registered: 01-2004 |
ndavies, the (semi) sober voice of reason per usual. its still lame ass bs in my book. again, agency to agency is different than "reporters" trolling blogs and forums instead of doing your own damn homework. and yes of course that is only my opinion. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 3393 Registered: 01-2004 |
well anyway - i think that new header panorama is one of the most unique angles of the City anyone has come up with in ages. stunning |
