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Post Number: 2265
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 2:41 pm: |    |
It's very plain what Hitler has to do with this. "Personality, humanity and creativity often have no relationship." Lowell was using him as an example of a decent artist and miserable human being.
He could have used someone like Frank Sinatra to illustrate the point also; Sinatra was a great singer and a thug of a human being. |
Diehard
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Post Number: 607
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 3:08 pm: | |
I'm sure Ted would support my right to shoot him on sight.
So. Annoying. |
Kenp
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Username: Kenp
Post Number: 1228
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 3:32 pm: | |
How dare you insult Frank like that. |
Bobl
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 3:42 pm: | |
Lefty 2: I believe he smacked a bandmate out in the parking lot at one gig, for smoking a joint with a girl in her car. Fact is: at that time, it was sometimes necessary to be rude and crude to others, in order to establish one's sobriety. The rule was no dope at gigs. Ted was the boss.
But I still think he should lighten up a bit, and get back to performing inspired music, which I haven't heard from him in a long time.
Just heard "Great White Buffalo". Good stuff! |
Kenp
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Post Number: 1229
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 3:53 pm: | |
Wang tang sweet poontang isnt inspiring music? |
Larryinflorida
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Post Number: 3068
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 4:27 pm: | |
I'm not sure he's up there with the dope-using guitar players, but for a sober, clear-thinking cat, he did reasonably well.
Zee Wango, Zee Tango. |
Ggores
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Username: Ggores
Post Number: 424
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 4:41 pm: | |
If it weren't for Ted's music, Manual Noriega would still be a ruling dictator down in Panama. |
Larryinflorida
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Username: Larryinflorida
Post Number: 3070
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 5:45 pm: | |
Well yeah. If a row of green trucks pulled up in front of your house and set up speakers that blared "Wango Wango Wango Wango Tango Tango Tango Tango",
You'd be out in plain sight, hands raised, pretty fast. |
Larryinflorida
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Post Number: 3071
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 5:49 pm: | |
I can imagine the psych-ops meeting where they reviewed different songs they might use:
"Well, Minnie Ripperton would work well, but the windows of our vehicles may shatter at the end..So Nugent seems the best choice". |
Sludgedaddy
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Username: Sludgedaddy
Post Number: 179
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 5:54 pm: | |
As a non-dope using, draft dodging guitar player, Ted has as much right as any American to spout his opinions. I like him much better than that Blo-no guy.
Disc jockeys up in Michigan's Northern regions use his anthem to Fred Bear as an opportunity to go to the rest room, much in the same way that the old WABX DJ's used "Ina Godda DaVida"
Back in Hamtown's punk hey-day, Phineus T. Hawk of the Incredible Mohawk Brothers challenged Ted to a one on one guitar duel. Ted said he was above that sort of thing. I still say, Phineus T.Hawk can still kick Ted's ass! |
Karenk
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Username: Karenk
Post Number: 82
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 6:16 pm: | |
I couldn't tell you what he sang/played if he put his gun to my head. I do remember him just being a shit to people and a Chicken. Hawk. |
Hpgrmln
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Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 610
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 6:32 pm: | |
Im bothered now by the post about Derreck St. Holmes.
All this time I thought the guy with the guitar on the cover of the albums was the man behind the music.
I had to look in no more than one rock book at home to confirm that not only was someone else singing some of the songs, but playing rhythm guitar as well! I feel cheated. At least it explains why the vocals on "Stranglehold" sound a bit too high-pitched to have been from the guy behind "Fred Bear." Because it wasn't! Im pretty sure that was him on "Cat Scratch Fever" though. |
Lodgedodger
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Username: Lodgedodger
Post Number: 683
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 6:50 pm: | |
I was once behind his vehicle at a stop light.
I waved.
He winked.
I swooned. ;-)
Oh, to be young again... |
Ggores
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Username: Ggores
Post Number: 425
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 6:53 pm: | |
Ted sang on some tunes, such as Cat Scratch Fever, Motor City Madhouse, and the ill-forgotten Yank Me, Crank Me (the B-side to Cat Scratch). Derek St. Holmes did get properly credited on the albums (if I remember correctly), but Derek had his own ego issues which conflicted with the Alpha Nuge. Similar to the problems Alice Cooper experienced with Michael Bruce, and the original members of THAT band.
Psy-ops actually DID spend two or three days trying to determine which song to blare from speakers, non-stop, in order to get Manual Noriega to finally give himself up to the Spec Forces who were exhausted of their means (it was a very touchy situation, both politically and militarily), and the song chosen was Stranglehold.
And, by the by, Noriega was supposed to be a drug-trafficking kingpin. Is he dead, or is he still "imprisoned" in his 5 million dollar chateau, somewhere in Florida? |
Kenp
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Post Number: 1230
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 9:34 pm: | |
Derek St. Holmes and others were screwed over by Ted, but Ted was the boss and thats the ways it was.
Ggores, your comparison to Mike Bruce and that band was right on. What a waste of great talent.
However the fact that both acts still remain standing today says somthing about how they dealt with their career's. |
Themax
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Username: Themax
Post Number: 996
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 1:49 pm: | |
I want to know if Ted was responsible for all the wild pigs running around Michigan now? Did he hunt wild boar? I know he wasn't alone in his interest in offing wild animals, but did he start the mess? |
Bobl
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 7:03 pm: | |
Lodgedodger: Swooned? As in a bobbysoxer swoon? LOL That's OK. I could tell you a story about Janis Joplin's greeting to me next to the stage at the Grande. I blushed. |
Sludgedaddy
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Username: Sludgedaddy
Post Number: 183
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 7:46 pm: | |
Bobl, I once got a kiss and a hug from Wendy O. Williams. She then set my pants on fire. LOL. |
Bobl
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Post Number: 139
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 7:48 pm: | |
S: Did you swoon, blush, or wet your pants?
(Message edited by Bobl on October 11, 2008) |
Patrick
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Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 7:52 pm: | |
Sludgedaddy, how did she set your pants on fire? Do you mean that she gave you the crabs? |
Foosie
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Username: Foosie
Post Number: 54
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 7:56 pm: | |
Hitler was ... the worst human being ever.
I think Joseph Stalin might hold that title. |
Bobl
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Username: Bobl
Post Number: 140
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 8:06 pm: | |
Who knows? Vlad The Impaler was not a warm and fuzzy one.
One thing most of these bad actors have in common is that they all could have been stopped if people had stood up to them early.
But we are getting off the subject now....... |
Sludgedaddy
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 8:17 pm: | |
Bobl and Patrick, I was too shocked to sprout wood! As of crabs, from my old hippie days I always carry a bottle of Quell for crotch crickets.
Patrick, were you one of the Incredible Mohawk Brothers? Or are you Killing Time in some blues band? |
Patrick
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Post Number: 5688
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 8:35 pm: | |
Sludge, neither. I pass time playing in an Albanian Whitesnake tribute band |
Mortgageking
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 8:37 pm: | |
Ted Nugent tells Obama and Hillary to suck on his machine gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =vy8RIiTyhMI
Freedom! |
Bobl
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 9:09 pm: | |
M: Amazing! You might call that freedom. I call that a bunch of childish hateful gibberish. The crowd was right out of a German beer hall in the 1930s. Sad and dangerous. Grow up, Ted!
Now I KNOW that I will vote for Obama. |
Bobl
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 9:17 pm: | |
FROM salon.com:
Oct. 7, 2008 | "My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."
This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.
Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")
Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.
That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.
-- |
Thecarl
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Post Number: 1344
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 9:22 pm: | |
quote:Now I KNOW that I will vote for Obama.
cripes, a swing vote, whose choice was finalized because of a rant from ted nugent! bobl, if nugent retracts his remarks, would you be willing to reconsider your decision?
and, to think that i was making my choice based primarily upon military stance and energy policy. |
Ravine
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Username: Ravine
Post Number: 2795
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 9:52 pm: | |
I think I'm developing a slight "man-crush" on Duke_sims. Another great, and deeply caustic, post.
The reason for Nugent's emphatic anti-drug stance-- if we can believe him, in the first place-- is that he is just (barely) smart enough to know that he doesn't have even so much as one brain cell to spare, so he simply cannot afford to mess with narcotics.
Personally, I think he is already operating under a deficit, in that department. |
Thecarl
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Post Number: 1347
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 10:12 pm: | |
quote:The reason for Nugent's emphatic anti-drug stance-- if we can believe him, in the first place-- is that he is just (barely) smart enough to know that he doesn't have even so much as one brain cell to spare, so he simply cannot afford to mess with narcotics.
c'mon now, ravine - are you saying that only smart people do drugs?
nugent may be operating in another dimension, but do you really think he's not smart? i mean, you can be deluded and hyperintelligent at the same time. |
Ravine
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Post Number: 2800
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 10:39 pm: | |
C'mon now, Thecarl-- that's not what I wrote, nor did I imply it. |
Ravine
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Post Number: 2801
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 10:43 pm: | |
And yes, I do really think that he's not smart.
Gosh. I feel so... charitable, putting it that way. |
Flanders_field
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Username: Flanders_field
Post Number: 1111
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 11:29 pm: | |
I have been a collector of rock and roll music in all formats for years, but for some reason I never owned a single 45, album, 8 track, cassette or CD of Nugent's music. I attended one concert of his annual New Year's Eve Whiplash Bash w/ SG Alice Cooper in '96.
I bought a promotional VHS video of his '88 Whiplash Bash concert, from a California-based mail-order record store in the early 90s, then sold it at auction for a nice profit a few years ago on eBay.
To each his own as far as politics, but I doubt if I would have attended that concert, had I known about his staunchly conservative political preference,in which he has recently become more publicly vocal about. I wasn't aware of it until the twilight of his career, and believe that he kept quiet about it in order to prevent alienating the more liberal-leaning of his fans. |
Larryinflorida
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Username: Larryinflorida
Post Number: 3090
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 12:03 am: | |
Liberal Leaning fan's loss
Glenn Beck's gain. |
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