  Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 1192 Registered: 01-2006 |
Sorry, I'm on my phone so I cant post a link... I was reading in Crains that CCS will use more than 4 floors to house 261 students, class space, studios, etc. There will also be ground floor retail and space for other non-profits. They hope to move my 2010. I think this is exactly what the New Center area needs to bring a little jolt of energy to a hulk of a building. Your thoughts? | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 7215 Registered: 10-2003 |
This is true, I believe GM donated the space to CCS. I think their new Grad programs will be housed there, and the retail space is supposed to be used as a means of getting students into starting their own businesses. Now if they just had a train to facilitate moving between the two campuses... | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 7216 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.wwj.com/College-for -Creative-Studies-to-Redevelop -Detroit-/2435061 http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a rticle/20080616/SUB/806160309/ 1069 | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 7217 Registered: 10-2003 |
CCS has their own page on the subject, including renderings (I know how you all love renderings!) http://www.collegeforcreatives tudies.edu/argonaut | ||
Umbound Member Username: Umbound Post Number: 189 Registered: 02-2008 |
Thats awesome!, cant wait for that to happen. | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 2156 Registered: 05-2005 |
as an alumni this sounds like awesome news for the school, but when enrollement jumped around the time the walter b ford building opened i've heard many people say that the collective level of work coming out of there has suffered since, i hope this doesn't exacerbate that. either way this will be a boon to new center, and that's a great thing. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 7220 Registered: 10-2003 |
Shout out to my fellow alum Gravitymachine! Yes I think you are right about the work suffering a bit around that time. They had more capacity, and wanted to fill it, so I think they accepted more people. But CCS always tended to be very full at the beginning of a semester, and then the numbers would dwindle down a bit as kids realized you actually have to work pretty hard. There's still a lot of great stuff coming out of there. And the amount of work those Transportation students do, DAMN. | ||
Sciencefair Member Username: Sciencefair Post Number: 106 Registered: 10-2007 |
If you drive by the back of the building on Baltimore you can see the mountain of rubbish from the gutting. | ||
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk Post Number: 296 Registered: 11-2006 |
Does anyone know how long has this building been empty? | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 2157 Registered: 05-2005 |
^ they said 10 years in the story on wdet this morning mr. lodge i am a trans graduate, i can testify to the amount of work, a couple all-nighters a week's worth at least. and on that subject, i would like to apologize for sleeping through several of leoqueeen's classes, believe me, it was not for lack of interest  (Message edited by gravitymachine on June 19, 2008) | ||
Norwalk Member Username: Norwalk Post Number: 297 Registered: 11-2006 |
My daughter is a Junior @ CCS and she said it's gonna be great because it will house all the students know one likes. | ||
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman Post Number: 347 Registered: 06-2005 |
It'll certainly be huge for the Northern Lights Lounge- 250+ college students living a block away, plus more daytime traffic? Maybe the foot traffic around the area would make the New Amsterdam projects more successful, particularly phase two at 2nd and Amsterdam. | ||
Lnfant Member Username: Lnfant Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2008 |
More transportation students means more ideas and yet the car manufacturers already resist aesthetics that are unfamiliar. I know, I proposed modern ones and they clung to their macho ideas that a bigger and faster car is better, oh, add the obtuse curves too (lol). Most of America isn't into that macho car anymore. Enter the modern era Detroit car manufacturers. Best wishes to the enthusiastic transportation students! (Message edited by Lnfant on June 19, 2008) | ||
Benfield Member Username: Benfield Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2008 |
Ground floor retail is the key, and the creative class is too. (Message edited by benfield on June 19, 2008) (Message edited by benfield on June 19, 2008) (Message edited by benfield on June 19, 2008) | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 890 Registered: 11-2003 |
That's awesome. Between that, Techtown, and the new WSU headquarters, I smell some pretty cool redevelopment happening. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2642 Registered: 07-2004 |
WSU Headquarters or WSU Police Headquarters, Digitalvision? Also, crews are tearing down the parking deck in back. There is great potential for more development in that area along Baltimore Street. The NBC Building and the building east of it that the Detroit Public Libray owns would be residential developments. It would be nice to see that parking lot by the train tracks turned into a small park with a nice running track and maybe a full court basketball court. Finally, I have often imagined a nice row of townhouses where that two story parking lot now stands. That would add plenty of residential to Baltimore. | ||
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie Post Number: 1432 Registered: 11-2003 |
Fortunately GM has always been a responsible landlord, and either quickly tears down or carefully mothballs its unused properties. (Fisher Body 21 got to its present state after it was sold to a different company). Because of the Argonaut's stable, secured condition during closure, renovation is a lot more feasible. Interestingly, originally there was ground floor retail at the Argonaut. The storefronts were later closed off, but done in a way that made it look like it was the original design. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 2568 Registered: 09-2007 |
I'm glad to hear the New Center Area is coming along nicely as well. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 7054 Registered: 08-2004 |
Well if CCS can successfully have a split campus, then there is NO reason why the Maritime School planned for the Detroit Boat Club on Belle Isle needs to have their their housing, etc., on the island. Do like CCS, and put it in another campus. The Riverview Hospital (near the bridge) that St. John is closing would be an ideal rehab building for student housing. (Message edited by Gistok on June 24, 2008) | ||
Jdmdetroit Member Username: Jdmdetroit Post Number: 179 Registered: 11-2003 |
Here is another link: http://www.wwj.com/College-for -Creative-Studies-to-Redevelop -Detroit-/2435061 | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 6060 Registered: 10-2003 |
Johnlodge, I may be wrong, but if I remember right, General Motors hasn't owned the Argonaut in many years. (Message edited by lmichigan on June 25, 2008) | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 8259 Registered: 11-2004 |
I guess what I find kind of interesting in all of this was during CCS' explorations to the uses of the Argonaut, General Motors helped pay half of those costs. The fact that Albert Kahn's firm was called in to help was also a nice touch. It should be an interesting piece to the puzzle in the New Center area. Schools like this are solid anchors to a community and I hope that this project will help revitalize the area again. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2652 Registered: 07-2004 |
Gistok, college students can get from one campus to another a lot better than high school students. Not saying I'm in favor of the Maritime school on Belle Isle, but having student dorms near the school makes a lot of sense. Having the students stay in one location and having them travel by car, bus, or walking, defeats the purpose of the boarding-school concept. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 7299 Registered: 10-2003 |
Lmichigan, The WWJ article reads: quote: So it appears they must have still owned it. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 8260 Registered: 11-2004 |
It's because of men like Matt Wagner and Gary Cowger over at GM that have had a vision for this building that CCS got the property. It was an ideal situation- GM wanted to unload this property and CCS was looking to expand. The fact that Harley Earl once designed cars in this building is also a nice coupe for CCS as well. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 5031 Registered: 02-2005 |
Yeah, the wdet report harped on that interesting fact. It's a great project that will breathe life into a now lifeless building and (by and large) neighborhood. I hear that CCS also plans renovations at their present campus. I wonder what this will entail. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 7300 Registered: 10-2003 |
I don't think they ever stopped renovating their present campus. It already looks nothing like when I was there. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 7059 Registered: 08-2004 |
Good point Royce, I keep thinking of the Belle Isle school idea as a college level school.... but can you imagine high schoolers at night having a closed (to the public) island park all to themselves... oh the mischief! But I also have to agree with the poster on the other thread who mentioned that with most maritime shipping registered under Panama and other "less than 1st world countries"... is there even a market for US based "higher cost" maritime personnel? |
