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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 7:51 pm: |    |
Django, do you mean John Norman Collins? That's creepy. |
Jgavrile
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:44 pm: | |
Ed _Golick. I think you are right. Shock Theater was some other guy, but I can't remember his name.? All I know is that we used to have a night Free Press route and Farand Park was one of the streets ,and it had those big apartment buildings on the corner of Woodard and Farand. and whoever the guy was that did Shock theater lived there, as I used to have to collect from him . Maybe someone else remembers?? |
Jgavrile
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:52 pm: | |
Ed_Golick, I found out who hosted Shock Theater, it was;
Mr. X (Tom Dougall, a drama professor at the Detroit Institute of Technology), who opened the show with "Lock your doors...dim your lights...and get ready ... |
Ed_golick
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 9:10 pm: | |
Tom Dougall also created the WXYZ radio show Challenge of the Yukon, better know as Sgt. Preston of the Yukon. |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:20 pm: | |
Patrick: My mother went to Eastern HS with Helen Thomas. Miraculously, mom's house at the time is still there: 3056 Baldwin.
It would be nice to be able to find out where these folks lived, so perhaps we can preserve these buildings. We can't do it if we don't know where they are. |
Zephyrprocess
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 1:25 am: | |
quote:I lived in the house where the Michigan murderer lived... Django, I know someone else who lived in that house in the mid-'80s; when were you there? |
Reddog289
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 2:27 am: | |
hope i don,t kill this thread, last i heard about the ypsi murder house was that a cop owned it, creepy thing i was thinking of my late uncle who was an Ann Arbor cop who worked that case. |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 2:41 am: | |
Whithorn11446: A lot of cities have tours of homes of their famous former citizens. I was wondering if it would be a viable enterprise in Detroit.
The only examples you've listed that people outside of Detroit would know is Alex Karras, Jimmy Hoffa, and maybe Karl Haas.
No offense to local luminaries, but people with national or world fame would be the draw....like that other Denby grad, Sonny Bono. Now, that would be a mecca for a lot of fans.
(Message edited by eastsidedame on June 05, 2008) |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 3:01 am: | |
Serendipity: This story came out today.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20080605/E NT04/806050370
(Though the address is not mentioned in the story, it's the Verona Apartments at 92 W. Ferry.) |
Slider
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 4:12 pm: | |
"I lived in the house where the Michigan murderer lived and killed at least one girl in the basement back in the late 60s. But that was in Ypsilanti not Detroit."
Django, where is/was that house? |
Rocknrollscientist
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 4:46 pm: | |
I lived in the Verona for awhile ('97-'99). In fact, I lived in the apartment directly below the one Joni Mitchell lived in.
Does anyone know the apartment in that building where Gilda Radner lived? I've never been able to get a straight answer on that one. |
Sarge
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 5:11 pm: | |
Horace Dodge (as well as my sisters) resided at 642 W. Forest.
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Jcole
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 6:19 pm: | |
According to one of her bios, Gilda was born in Detroit, but attended Liggett High School, so she was probably either an east sider or Grosse Pointer. |
Mbshan
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 6:39 pm: | |
I was told that Lucille Ball lived with her grandmother in Wyandotte as a small child. |
Patrick
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:07 pm: | |
I thought Radner lived in the University District. I dont think many Jewish folks lived on the east side back then anyhow. |
Jcole
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:08 pm: | |
Then she had along ride to school. |
Spacemonkey
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:59 pm: | |
As a child, my mother lived in the same apartment building as Lili Tomlin and her family for a while. That was on the east side of Detroit somewheres. |
Pffft
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:00 pm: | |
Gilda lived in the Mumford neighborhood but attended University-Liggett. |
Jcole
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:08 pm: | |
I also saw on one of the sites that Gilda's father owned the Seville Hotel in Detroit, but I can't find any reference to that hotel. |
Rfban
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 9:54 pm: | |
Lili Tomlin spent some time in Brewster. |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:08 pm: | |
The Verona Apartments are astoundingly beautiful. This "tenement castle" should be restored and brought back to its former glory at once. A plaque wouldn't be a bad idea, either.
If I was an artist, I'd be clamoring to live there to soak up the vibe. Isn't housing scarce in the WSU area? I just don't get it. |
Strathcona
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:54 pm: | |
This is the secret beauty of the C of D. Those who know--know. |
Neilr
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 11:05 pm: | |
Jcole, the Seville Apartments/Hotel was a large, perhaps 6 story, building on 2nd, or perhaps 3rd, several blocks north of the Masonic Temple. It was demolished a number of years ago. |
Jcole
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 11:08 pm: | |
Neil, Thank you. I just couldn't find a reference to it anywhere on the web. |
Zephyrprocess
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| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 12:27 am: | |
Given her age, when Gilda Radner attended The Liggett School it was in Indian Village, 2555 Burns, specifically. The Liggett School moved to Grosse Pointe in the fall of 1964, and the building is now The Waldorf School of Detroit. |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 12:37 am: | |
With that clue, I found out the exact address was 3160 Second, built in 1926. Cool! |
Grumpyoldlady
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| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 1:00 am: | |
Anybody know where Sonny Bono lived on the east side? He would have been at Denby at the same time as my mother-in-law. He was born just a few days after she was. I'd love an address if anyone has old census records. Was he named after his dad. Sonny's real name was Salvatore. |
Jgavrile
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| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 10:46 am: | |
From Lily Tomlin bio on the net:
"I grew up on Hazelwood, between Byron and Woodrow Wilson, near John C. Lodge and Clairmount in the old neighborhood that burned down in the '67 riots. My old apartment house got gutted by fire and later it was torn down. My dad used to hang out on 12th Street, and I'd go to the bookie joints and bars with him. I was very socially conscious as a kid growing up in my neighborhood, which was a predominantly black neighborhood. " And some more about when she lived in Highland Park:
"I lived at 216 Louise, Highland Park, MI and remember playing with you in Roy Sander's back yard next to your home (232 Louise?)with another kid named Butchie Gammon. We were fascinated with your stories then and I still am. Dewey Schultz the H.P. Police chief lived a few doors from you. I delivered the Detroit News papers in the apartment bldg at 10 Louise and knew all the tenants and thought that was where you got your stories and characters from--guess I was wrong. I was a beginning piano player but stopped when I heard that your mother said "I'm going to sell to the .if he doesn't stop." I think now it was her sense of humor. Mrs. Tyrrel lived next to our house and once I was playing with matches beside her porch and lighting some newspapers when my mom called to take me downtown to Hudson's. I quickly tossed the paper through a window under her porch. When we came home the police and fire were there trying to find out who started the smokey slow burning fire in her coal bin. Of course I had an indignant look and denied it. My mom said I was downtown with her and could not have done it. Ever after Carolyn Berta who lived further down the block was never allowed to play with us boys again. It was not until 40 years later I confessed to my mom. She was shocked. My home at 216 Louise is still there. I remember so much about Highland Park, Sears, Highland Park General Hospital where during the summer in high school I worked as grounds keeper. Highland Park has changed but it was fun visiting a few years ago and talking to the new people on the blocks between Hamilton and Woodward and giving them some history. A lot is gone. Russ Dawson's Ford Dealership on Woodward at Florence Ave. had turned into an exercise studio. Palmer Park is there but changed too. " |
Saintme
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| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 2:41 pm: | |
Mbshan-
Lucille Ball lived in the victorian home at the corner of Jefferson and Vinewood, 2610 Biddle (Jefferson) Ave. specifically. The homes is now used as the Wyandotte Historical Museum. I think she only lived there for a matter of months as an infant, however. This info came from my grandpa, who is the president of the Historical Society.
You can see a picture of it at the link below.
http://www.wyandotte.net/histo rical-museum/
(Message edited by saintme on June 06, 2008) |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 12:41 am: | |
Thanks! She's one of the greats! You guys are the best. |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 9:39 am: | |
Has anyone read Ellen Burstyn's autobiography? Does she mention her old house in it?
As long as we're mentioning good actresses, Julie Harris? |
Pffft
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| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 10:13 am: | |
She does mention where she lived in her book, but I passed the book on and can't remember the exact street. Believe it was a house divided into upper and lower flats.
It was on the west side, she talked about how she got to have her bedroom in a large upstairs enclosed porch, it was cold, but her own space...
She talked about how lovely the street was, with huge trees, etc. |
Hpgrmln
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| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 5:33 pm: | |
I thought Eminem lived on the N/E side for awhile; I want to say it was on Strassburg.
Speaking of rappers, what about that creepy Esham guy? I hear he also lived on the eastside, in a house full of satanic imagery. |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 4:04 am: | |
I read somewhere where the White Stripes lived; I even remember looking it up. I just can't remember what the address was. I'm sure I saw it on the Internet, though. |
Stromberg2
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 2:37 pm: | |
"I read somewhere where the White Stripes lived; I even remember looking it up. I just can't remember what the address was. I'm sure I saw it on the Internet, though."
1203 Ferdinand, if I remember correctly.
Stromberg2 |
Saintme
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 3:00 pm: | |
Jack White lived in a home in Indian Village for a while too (after he gained some fame). Unfortunately I don't know the address. I just remember it was a white house with a red driveway. If I come across the picture I will post it. |
Saintme
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 3:04 pm: | |
Also I thought I remembered seeing photos of The Seville pre-demolition in one of Lowel's photo tours . . . am I imagining that? |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 7:19 pm: | |
Saintme, I'm talking about pre-fame. I remember it was on the West Side near one of the car companies/factories. Why do I want to say Chrysler? Dang, I wish I could remember where I read that. |
Saintme
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 1:28 pm: | |
Jack White house, post-fame:
1731 Seminole St
The browser filter at work is preventing me from pulling up any exterior photos of the house. It does have it's own website though (which I also can't open) at www.1731seminole.com
There are some nice interior photos at the link below:
http://www.luxist.com/2006/10/06/jack-whites-house-estate-of-the-day/
And unfortunately I had no luck searching for his pre-fame home.
(Message edited by Saintme on June 11, 2008) |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 3:07 am: | |
Yep, that's it!! Thanks Stromberg2! |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:03 am: | |
Madonna's old house at 2036 Oklahoma Street, Rochester Hills, Mich. was destroyed by fire Friday night.
Well, that's one house that won't be on the tour.... |
Swiburn
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:04 am: | |
Slider: Re: John Norman Collins: you may be thinking of the Roosevelt St. house in Ypsilanti where Karen Sue Beineman wa murdered in l969. Collins killed her in his uncle's basement. She had only been an EMU college freshman for one week. |
Sebastian
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 1:00 pm: | |
Stromberg2 is right about the house at 1203 Ferdinand. And it's currently for sale, on ebay of all places:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA PI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=1902 32609461&ssPageName=STRK:MESE: IT&ih=009 |
Eastsidedame
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| | Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 1:11 am: | |
It's a pretty house. How's the neighborhood? |
Sebastian
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| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 12:25 am: | |
A lot of well kept houses on that street, plenty of Mexican families. Looks like the auction is over, though. |
Saintme
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| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 2:42 pm: | |
The attic certainly looks like the White Stripes have been there. |
Treble484
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| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 9:32 pm: | |
Wasn't John Norman Collins uncle a Washtenaw County sheriff deputy? |
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