Mama_jackson Member Username: Mama_jackson
Post Number: 530 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:08 am: | |
http://www.freep.com/article/2 0081210/NEWS01/81210025/1001/r ss01 Too bad, the guy was only 19 yrs. old. He shouldn't have cocked the gun and aimed at the cop. Really sad. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 625 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:11 am: | |
Title of thread should be, "Death by Self" |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 3682 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:12 am: | |
It was a suicide. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 5044 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:13 am: | |
I think the term is 'Suicide by Cop' |
Meaghansdad Member Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 284 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:50 am: | |
It isnt "too bad", in my opinion. Dont aim guns at cops, dont get yourself killed. |
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth
Post Number: 465 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:56 am: | |
That's why they should have rubber bullets or some other non-lethal method of stopping someone like that in their tracks. I realize that they may not have had the opportunity to employ alternative methods, but it's got to be hard on the police when someone does that. Really isn't fair on their part. |
Jcole Member Username: Jcole
Post Number: 5046 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:56 am: | |
agreed, Meaghansdad |
N7hn Member Username: N7hn
Post Number: 126 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:13 am: | |
rubber bullets? maybe they could just toss daisies or break out the aroma therapy at people that aim guns at cops ....sigh |
Townonenorth Member Username: Townonenorth
Post Number: 466 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:21 am: | |
Thing is, the police are not supposed to be in the suicide business. I do not feel that the police should be put through the mental gymnastics required when someone as stupid as that guy pulls a stunt like that. Most police I happen to know would rather not shoot anyone. It's not about being touchy-feely. |
Gary Member Username: Gary
Post Number: 373 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:31 am: | |
A rubber bullet fired from a high powered pistol or rifle hits it's target with pretty much the same impact as a conventional bullet. Rubber bullets won't penetrate the flesh, but getting shot with one is hardly comparable to having daisies thrown at you. As for this guy, he was just plain stupid |
N7hn Member Username: N7hn
Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:47 am: | |
well. I was exaggerating, trying to say dont aim guns at the cops and if you do you are lucky if you ARENT shot. So they are supposed to have two guns?? one for probably not deadly confrontation and one for pretty deadly confrontation? or should they change bullets depending on the situation? Dont get me wrong I dont think cops are all do gooders and righteous, all the more reason NOT to aim at them. Only reason Id have a bit of concern is if cops were in plainclothes w/o any identification. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 3684 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:58 am: | |
Eh, I'm all about police reform and community sensitivity and savings lives and all that jazz, but when someone is pointing a gun at you that is a different story. There really is no alternative other than for the cops to have shot him -- as sad as it may be. The police are not psychiatrists. They don't run mental hospitals. This one isn't their fault, and there is probably little that could have been done by them to make the outcome of the situation more favorable. |
Mama_jackson Member Username: Mama_jackson
Post Number: 531 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:01 pm: | |
Maybe the guy was distraught over a minor thing in his life? Maybe he was high on drugs? It's a losing situation all the way around. I do have a lot of sympathy for the police in this situation. The police need to defend themselves. Just sad. |
Firstandten Member Username: Firstandten
Post Number: 536 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:09 pm: | |
A sane and rational person would not aim a gun at a cop. Unfortunately people don't have the guts to put a bullet thru their own head instead leaving the police to do their dirty work. I feel sorry for the cops who are doing their job and must shoot the person who is aiming the gun at them. A policeman can't take the time to determine that a person is mentally ill and just wants the police officer to kill him and the person who is truly a criminal and wants to harm that police officer. |
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 1088 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:14 pm: | |
quote:The police are not psychiatrists. No, but if they kill enough people they might have to start seeing one. |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 777 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:09 pm: | |
I see the article has been changed. The perp is not dead, but in critical condition. Too bad, now he'll probably try to sue the city. |
Docterry Member Username: Docterry
Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2008
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 11:14 am: | |
Yes, he probably will sue. I'm glad the officer doesn't have to live with a death, though. My guess is, that once "the whole story" comes out, the incident will speak to the inability/failure of the mental health system to engage people in crisis for a variety of reasons. |