  El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo Post Number: 686 Registered: 12-2006 |
Does anybody have a ball park figure for this? | ||
Mike Member Username: Mike Post Number: 1354 Registered: 11-2003 |
not enough | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 8659 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: More on the days the Tigers play home games!  | ||
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo Post Number: 687 Registered: 12-2006 |
gee...thanks guys. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 2106 Registered: 09-2007 |
Yeah, the city's really bustling on game day (when they have their 1PM games). Anyway, I hear it's 130K in Midtown (including DMC, New Center, and WSU) and 80K in downtown (mainly blue collar), total over 200,000. Certainly nothing to brag about with a regional population of 4.5 million. (Message edited by DetroitRise on May 12, 2008) | ||
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 829 Registered: 11-2005 |
Well Zaccaro's employs about 20 Detroiters not quite downtown though but close enough. We Also have the ACLU Moving in nextdoor and peoples records moving in across the street! | ||
English Member Username: English Post Number: 732 Registered: 10-2003 |
Nice, Urbanoutdoors. I miss working downtown. Food was better and there were more choices than here in Tree Town (which is better for vegetarians/vegans/whole foodians, I'll admit). | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1624 Registered: 04-2006 |
I work downtown add me to the list. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 826 Registered: 11-2003 |
As I know it, there are about 73,000 workers in the CBD proper. Don't know anything about Midtown's numbers. To give comparison, Auburn Hills has a workday population of 80k, and Troy 125k (I don't have a link, but I know from the Alley). Another benchmark of scale - 800,000 people work in downtown Toronto. If we could get those 73k people we have already out more, we have WAY more density and urban life than those other regional places downtown. All our people are packed into a mile or two as the CBD in the studies I've seen is riverfront, 375 to lodge to 75, as opposed to sprawled out. That is a perception and security question, and that's where the next focus needs to be. Because those people, when they feel safer, are going to rent and buy lofts and be residents. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 3092 Registered: 04-2006 |
quote: What do blue collar workers do downtown? | ||
401don Member Username: 401don Post Number: 445 Registered: 11-2007 |
I'm guessing it would be about 50/50 white vs. blue collar, with the blue collar being all the service industries-hotel, rest. parking, etc. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 6602 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Awesome, maybe they'll sue the city and steal your tax money like they're doing in Ferndale. | ||
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn Post Number: 227 Registered: 02-2005 |
As long as they hire a downtown Detroit-based lawyer. | ||
Hybridy Member Username: Hybridy Post Number: 250 Registered: 08-2006 |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20 080512/cm_csm/ecarbon_1 if living downtown is financially viable and safe, theres no reason for corporations to make the move but it takes movers and shakers-aka compuware and quicken | ||
Hudkina Member Username: Hudkina Post Number: 192 Registered: 12-2004 |
The CBD has an employment base of 80,000 in an area that is about 1 sq. mi. The 5 sq. mi. "greater downtown area" has an employment base of about 130,000. In comparison, Troy is nearly 30 sq. mi. in area. | ||
Grumpyoldlady Member Username: Grumpyoldlady Post Number: 84 Registered: 06-2005 |
When I worked in Human Resources for a company headquartered downtown, we lost some good employees because they no longer felt safe coming to work downtown...not because they didn't feel safe downtown, it was the neighborhoods they had to drive through to GET to work and back home. More than one employee had car trouble and a subsequent negative run in with the criminal element while on their way to or from work downtown. Unfortunately there's nothing that can be done about that aspect...commuters who live in outlying Detroit neighborhoods and suburbs have 3 choices...move downtown, quit the job, or gamble with their life and property. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6804 Registered: 08-2004 |
... or #4... get a dependable car. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1626 Registered: 04-2006 |
... or #5 ...take the bus to work! | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 3099 Registered: 04-2006 |
... or #5 ... stop being so damn xenophobic. They act like Detroit is the only city in the universe with a ghetto! | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 458 Registered: 04-2004 |
^ Until they've been to Philly | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 2115 Registered: 09-2007 |
^At least Philly didn't loose a million people, has a centralized downtown and they have buildings with occupants in their ghettos. (Message edited by DetroitRise on May 13, 2008) | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 11681 Registered: 10-2003 |
I would but I am waaaay too afraid to work in such a scary place. | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 459 Registered: 04-2004 |
"At least Philly didn't loose a million people, has a centralized downtown and they have buildings with occupants in their ghettos." Hmm will it be swaths of empty lots or passing through Mantua..... No hate for Philly, it's one of my top favorite cities. Just validating iheartthed's point | ||
Hudkina Member Username: Hudkina Post Number: 193 Registered: 12-2004 |
"When I worked in Human Resources for a company headquartered downtown, we lost some good employees because they no longer felt safe coming to work downtown...not because they didn't feel safe downtown, it was the neighborhoods they had to drive through to GET to work and back home." These people did hear of interstates, right? The only suburbanites who might find it faster to take surface streets would be Grosse Pointers, and Jefferson isn't bad... | ||
Detroitsky Member Username: Detroitsky Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2007 |
I work downtown. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 829 Registered: 11-2003 |
I've heard the same stuff, Hudkina. A million times. People are worried their car will break down and thugs will shoot them - been told as much frequently. Not necessarily well-based in fact; I've broken down in the hood and have been fine, and any one has met me knows I don't blend into the 'hood very well. | ||
Bragaboutme Member Username: Bragaboutme Post Number: 227 Registered: 02-2008 |
Philly has faced many of the same problems as detroit since 1950. Population loss,job loss, ect., Detroit is just hated by many that don't understanding its history. | ||
Njmikey Member Username: Njmikey Post Number: 62 Registered: 04-2005 |
As someone who's been to both Detroit and Philly numerous times for work, Philly's center city (as they call it) is safer, cleaner, and has ten times the amount of people and businesses than downtown Detroit. Philly's central business district is also much larger area wise so it's really a bad comparison. No hate here though. I love Detroit when I go there on business. | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 2050 Registered: 08-2007 |
I worked downtown nearly my whole career, although my first assignment was in a storefront office on Linwood and Virginia Park. I've had flat tires on the way to work, and pulled off near old Herman Kieffer once and once near I-75 and Clay. Some nice men stopped and helped me change the flats. I walked all over from Rosa Parks to the Ren Cen, and never had a problem. I called on people in every neighborhood in Detroit, too. I left in 2003, so this is ancient to recent history. In my humble opinion, ANY area can have problems. Just keep your eyes open, avoid strange situations, and give everyone you meet a nice smile. You may be the only vanilla chip in the crowd, just know that does not automatically put you in danger. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 4778 Registered: 02-2005 |
It might not be that much safer, Njmikey, but I agree on the other counts. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1518 Registered: 12-2003 |
I had a flat tire and had to pull over onto the very skinny shoulder just as you're going onto 375 from I-75 South. I called AAA, but a local entrepreneur with a raggedy tow truck came along first. I said sure, change my tire, he did and even accepted a check. No muss, no fuss. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6810 Registered: 08-2004 |
And there's also all those courtesy vans (thanks to those big box drug stores) that come along from time to time on all the freeway to help out... I used to worry more about people chucking things off the overpass than I did about any other problems in Detroit. The state has taken care of much of that worry by putting tall cyclone fences along all Detroit and suburban overpass bridges. |
