  Oliverdouglas Member Username: Oliverdouglas Post Number: 182 Registered: 02-2006 |
Overheard at Pasquale's last night: During a discussion of the Dream Cruise, it was pointed out that Campus Martius was a real person. The speaker was unsure, however, wether Mr. Martius actually designed cars, or what. | ||
Alley Member Username: Alley Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2008 |
I couldn't find a single reference to anyone named "Campus Martius," but I did learn A.Campus Martius (Latin for the "Field of Mars" where Roman heroes walked, Italian Campo Marzio), was a publicly owned area of ancient Rome about 2 km (600 acres) in extent. In the Middle Ages it was the most populated area of Rome. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C ampus_Martius) AND B.Campus Martius was a civilian fortification built between 1788 and 1791 in order to protect Marietta, the first organized American settlement in the Northwest Territory of the United States (http://www.artcom.com/Museums/ nv/af/45750-21.htm) | ||
Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 491 Registered: 08-2004 |
That's crazy talk. Someone was pulling your leg or misinformed. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 2197 Registered: 12-2005 |
A perfect application of IDKFTIKPOOOA | ||
Kenp Member Username: Kenp Post Number: 1083 Registered: 03-2006 |
I knew Mr. Martius, he was a great Detroit leader and legend. Unfortunatly his love of wine and women was his downfall. He was once quoted as saying, "My only crime is loving well, not loving wise" | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 12508 Registered: 12-2003 |
Oliverdouglas, I'm hoping you could finally get that wad of spaghetti out of your sinus cavity after snort laughing in their face. Shame you couldn't have simply slapped them for their ignorance...sometimes we might just be TOO polite in society. heh | ||
Cdwaters Member Username: Cdwaters Post Number: 88 Registered: 02-2008 |
Campus Martius was a place originally outside of Rome. The purpose for the "field of Mars" was that no one was allowed to enter the city with arms, so the big field outside of Rome became the place where the army would take up arms to begin a campaign and lay them down at the end of it. Early Rome would not even allow a temple to the god of war in the city. It was located outside the "pomerium." Elections were also held in the Campus Martius as some of the early voting assemblies were originally organized by your military "century." As Rome grew, it encompassed the field. It's interesting that the plan of Detroit had it's Campus Martius as the focal point. The Romans would have been appalled at the thought. Finally I get to show off my WSU classics degree on this board! | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 2666 Registered: 01-2004 |
Hahahahahaha ! "Which one is Pink" ? | ||
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit Post Number: 388 Registered: 10-2003 |
The martius family lived around the block from us on the NW side. Campus and his brother Circus were always getting in fights. | ||
401don Member Username: 401don Post Number: 374 Registered: 11-2007 |
Who told you that, Mr. Haney? | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 2199 Registered: 12-2005 |
 This is their cousin Marvin........... | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 2184 Registered: 07-2004 |
Maybe they confused Joseph Campau and Campo Marzio? | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 6233 Registered: 10-2003 |
This is actually true. Not many people realize it. Other little-known Detroiters who have places or landmarks named after them include: Tricen Tennial Frank Ambassador Jennifer "Big Beaver" Warner | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6674 Registered: 08-2004 |
56packman, where's Marvin's "Ilodium Pew Model 37 Space Modulator"? Interestingly enough... Campus Martius was indeed originally just a field in ancient Rome. There are 2 other famous fields in Europe... Campus Stella (Field of Stars) in ancient Spain, which later became Santiago de Compostella... where the bones of St. James the Greater (one of Jesus's 12 Apostles) were "supposedly" found in dark ages, and became one of the great pilgrimage sites of medieval Europe. And then there's the Theresienwiesen (Theresa's Field) just outside of medieval Munich, where millions of pilgrims come every year to partake of that magical brew... beer at Oktoberfest! | ||
Neilr Member Username: Neilr Post Number: 715 Registered: 06-2005 |
This thread has started me thinking. If I change my name from Neilr to Campus Martius in time to run in the next City Council election, I could be sitting right up there in one of those comfy chairs right next to Monica Conyers and Martha Reeves.  | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 617 Registered: 09-2006 |
Neil, I think thats an excellent idea,,,,you have my vote for sure,,, just dont wear any crazy birthday gear on your bday | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 1689 Registered: 11-2003 |
Wow, I didnt know that was Jenny Warner's nickname. | ||
Deteamster Member Username: Deteamster Post Number: 108 Registered: 07-2007 |
Detroit had its own bona fide Campus Martius. It was a common name for drilling fields for troops in any city. I know we had one, and I'm pretty sure it was the British who started it. Look at an old, old map and you'll find it. People say a lot of things. Unless they have their Ph.D., it's probably best not to take their trivia at face value. | ||
Cdwaters Member Username: Cdwaters Post Number: 89 Registered: 02-2008 |
Deteamster, if I agree with you I would have to completely ignore your post. ;) | ||
J_to_the_jeremy Member Username: J_to_the_jeremy Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2007 |
Dteamster is correct. The Champ de Mars in Paris is the same name as Campus Martius in the Paris of the Midwest. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6682 Registered: 08-2004 |
Good point J_to_the_jeremy... and then they also have their Elisian Fields... or Champs Elysees. (Too tired to look up the Accent Aigu's)... but correctly pronounced "Shawns Ay-Lee-Zay" | ||
Deteamster Member Username: Deteamster Post Number: 109 Registered: 07-2007 |
Sure you would! But how do you know I'm not Distinguished Professor Deteamster? Besides, don't take my word for it by any means...head to the library and check it out. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5936 Registered: 10-2003 |
Speaking of pronunciation, it's funny to see some pretentious people try to correctly pronounce "Campus Martius" thinking they've got a one up on the peasants when the correct way to say it is pretty much how it looks since it's Latin. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 2238 Registered: 01-2006 |
Gistok, where did you get the idea that the French pronounce that "m" as an "n"? Ce n'est vrai. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6698 Registered: 08-2004 |
I was in Paris twice (once before 2 years of French in college, once after). It was how my professor pronounced it. I've never seen the people in Paris put their lips together to get an "M" sound...(I was looking because I too was skeptical). They pronounce it more like a VERY subtle "N" sound. Another even weirder example is the old coronation city in France... "Rheims"... no "M" sound there either. Lmichigan... there's actually 2 ways of saying it in Latin... there's church Latin (Campus Mar-tee-us) and classic Latin (Campus Mar-shuss). (Message edited by Gistok on April 23, 2008) | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5940 Registered: 10-2003 |
Well, the m and n don't get pronounced at the end of words, but I've never heard an n pronounced as an m at the beginning of a word. I was almost certain that the only proper pronunciation of "tius" is two syllables in any kind of Latin. BTW, isn't the "u" pronounced "oo" so that it would be Cahm-poos? | ||
Alley Member Username: Alley Post Number: 30 Registered: 02-2008 |
Mr. Campoos Marshoos! | ||
Rel Member Username: Rel Post Number: 679 Registered: 02-2008 |
So there is a guy named Campus Martius... ...and my real name is Ms. Livernois Rencen Jefferson. Oh, and my maiden name is Faygo ;) | ||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 496 Registered: 07-2007 |
"Overheard at Pasquale's last night..." Wasn't this the tip-off that what would follow would be fact-free? | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 2782 Registered: 12-2004 |
quote: The only problem is that, for 7 years after you change your name, it would appear as "Campus Martius (formerly known as Neilr)". | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 1701 Registered: 11-2003 |
He should really try "Reverend Campus Martius" | ||
Neilr Member Username: Neilr Post Number: 716 Registered: 06-2005 |
quote: Thanks for the suggestion. Praise the Lord! quote: I'll expect that no one bothers to read further after seeing "Reverend Campus Martius." | ||
Cdwaters Member Username: Cdwaters Post Number: 92 Registered: 02-2008 |
Lmichigan, You are correct, classical Latin pronounces every syllable and the "T" is always hard. The "u" sound is pronounced somewhat like an "oo." The "C" is always hard as well, so Cicero was pronounced "Kee ker oh." Latin (esp. classical)is not considered a spoken language. We may read texts out loud but there is not a conversational element to classwork as in modern spoken languages except in a few intensive summer courses at U of Ky. There is debate as to how words were accented, though they are fairly certain of the pronunciation of letters and diphthongs. On a side note, Classical Greek is the same way. There is fierce debate between scholars and Modern Greek speakers because many Modern Greeks want to pronounce Ancient Greek like todays Greek. There is a lot of proof that shows it wasn't, they just can't be sure how it actually pronounced. I have been to a lecture where shouting matches have occurred over this topic. I guess this is a bit off topic, but I defer to most of you on so many Detroit issues, I like to impart a little bit of my expertise as well. Hope some of you are interested. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5942 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks, cdwaters. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1120 Registered: 08-2007 |
cdwaters, thanx... kamPuss MarT shuss? or kamPuss MaR shush? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5945 Registered: 10-2003 |
Neither. Cahm-pus Mar-Tee-us. Long "a" in the Campus, three syllables in Martius with a hard "t" | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1122 Registered: 08-2007 |
marty us? you expect us to talk about going to kahmpus MartyUs? Marty US? jeeze. Then how did this MarShuss thing start and who's to blame? Archer? bastard. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5946 Registered: 10-2003 |
Like just about any word that crosses over into a foreign language, we pronounce it according to our languages' own rules. Heck, we don't even say the city's name 'correctly.' (Message edited by lmichigan on April 24, 2008) |
