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Rsa
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this was passed onto me via the LP50 email list and i thought the forum might like to know:

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P&DD (City of Detroit) would like to review the following documents before making their final recommendation regarding this case:

1. The Planning and Development Department requested a Traffic Study from the applicant due to the concerns of the residents on Rivard and Antietam Streets regarding the potential increase in traffic congestion on these streets. The Planning and Development Department would like a copy of the City of Detroit Traffic Engineering Division’s review and recommendations regarding the valet parking area and the developer’s traffic remediation plan.

2. The Planning and Development Department wants to review the elevations, material and lighting specifications for all signage proposed for the subject property.

3. The Planning and Development Department does not have the jurisdiction to review the restaurant with the roof top deck/outdoor eating area and the arcade. These uses are prohibited in a R-6 Zoning District and is within the jurisdiction of Board of Zoning Appeals for the review and final recommendation regarding the site plan.

4. P&DD wants a written confirmation from the developer regarding whether the
existing building facade will remain the same. P&DD would like to review any current or proposed facade, windows, screening, or coping changes.

After submission of the requested documents, P&DD will provide a recommendation letter regarding the subject property.

We have not received any of the requested information, so P&DD has not made a final decision.

I hope this report is helpful.

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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm what is it?
- Casino
- Hotel
- Mall
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:50 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Niki's 2.0 ?

Sounds like Keffalinos is cooking up a little plan...rooftop dining? That could actually be fantastic.

What a weird building, I hope he can make something out of it.

Thanks, Rsa. Pass along your emails more often!
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Swingline
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like some pretty substantial non-residential uses are being considered by Mr. Keffalinos. Hope he can succeed with whatever he tries to do.

The apparent current zoning, R-6, which is High Density Residential, is kind of confusing. The building was used for decades as WSU's School of Pharmacy. Was the building originally built for that purpose? Why didn't it have some kind of institutional zoning designation? Did WSU have a variance all those years? Just wondering.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"4. P&DD wants a written confirmation from the developer regarding whether the
existing building facade will remain the same. P&DD would like to review any current or proposed facade, windows, screening, or coping changes."

Me thinks that ANY facade changes would only improve the exterior...
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Swingline
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Me thinks that ANY facade changes would only improve the exterior...

Not so sure. Mr. Keffalinos is enamored with slapping on cheesy strip-mall EIFS facades to several of his early 20th Century buildings. While Shapero Hall is not a mid-century architectural icon, in the wrong hands it could get architecturally vandalized pretty badly.
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Bobj
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope this goes well, getting some activity across the highway would be great
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Neilr
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Sounds like some pretty substantial non-residential uses are being considered by Mr. Keffalinos. Hope he can succeed with whatever he tries to do.


If he had a better track record, actually any record, for successful, quality development, I'd be more optimistic about his plans for Shapiro Hall.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neilr, what makes you think that some developer, looking to get the property from Mr. Keffalinos, insn't trying to get his/her ideas for the building approved by the city first before buying up the property? It's difficult to tell from Rsa's post.
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Supergay
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What makes you think that scenario is more likely than another Keffalinos mediocrity?
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Rugbyman
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What building are you talking about? Shapero Hall is at Palmer and Anthony Wayne/2nd. This is talking about traffic effects on Rivard and Antietam.
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Crew
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rugbyman, ...from WSU School of Pharmacy web site.

1965 College of Pharmacy moves to new Shapero Hall building on main campus; Department of Industrial Medicine and Hygiene renamed Occupational and Environmental Health (OEH).

1975 College is too large for main campus building and moves to 1400 Chrysler.


1984 College Building at 1400 Chrysler is renamed Shapero Hall.
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shapero v. Shapiro. Different buildings. Both pretty ugly. One on campus. One used to be part of a satellite campus.
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Crew
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's Shapero in both cases. The name of the building at 1400 Chrysler was changed when the Medical School left the building anf the School of Pharmacy moved there. The building at 1400 Chrysler lost the name Shapero when the School of Pharmacy left. It's all very confusing.
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Crew
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To clarify (or make things more confusing), the Shapero Hall on Main campus was referred to as "Natural Sciences Building" during the time that 1400 Chrysler was known as Shapero Hall.
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Kellyroad
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 4:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crew: fancy seeing you on this thread also. The original Shapero Hall (the upside down wedding cake building) was indeed on Main campus right next to the law school and education building. I believed it moved to Chrysler Drive in the mid 70s (went to Pharmacy school there) prior to that the School of Medicine occupied that building on Chrysler Drive
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm confused, wasn't this building scheduled for demolition? Last I checked (in January) they were gearing up to tear it down? When did plans change? Does anyone have an article showing the change in plans?

Anyway, the building was originally built as the Wayne State University Medical School and completed in 1954. WSU's College of Pharmacy moved in in 1975, and the building was renamed Shapiro Hall in 1984. The College of Pharmacy moved out in 2002 to move to the newly finished Eugene Applebaum building back on campus leaving the building vacant.

BTW, to avoid confusion with the other building of the same name on the WSU campus I'd simply refer to the building by its address:

1401 Rivard

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