  Sean_of_detroit Member Username: Sean_of_detroit Post Number: 44 Registered: 03-2008 |
For those who care. This is a link to the Yahoo article. Links to Forbes.com can be found there. http://promo.realestate.yahoo. com/top-suburbs-to-live-well.h tml I was going to title this "Highland Park Makes Forbes' Top 15 American Suburb List" referring to the Dallas suburb with the same name, but I wasn't sure everyone would appreciate the joke (even though it is almost April 1st). Bloomfield Hills is the one actually listed from the Detroit area. Quote: "Crime data come from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and include only per capita violent crimes and property crimes. Washington, D.C., and Detroit are both famous for high violent-crime rates, which in turn makes places such as Chevy Chase, Md., or Bloomfield Hills, Mich., all the more valuable." Right, that's what makes it so expensi... nevermind, no comment. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 5302 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yeah, but Bloomfield Hills still sucks. | ||
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity Post Number: 1067 Registered: 01-2005 |
Yeah, right. From a guy who probably would like to but probably can't afford to live there. Why would anyone say the place "sucks?" | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 5304 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hilarious. Lemme guess, either you live there or you grew up there. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1474 Registered: 12-2003 |
Actually they mention Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills and Clarkston (Clarkston??) There are three 'burbs picked for each city. I looked at the photo gallery. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 5305 Registered: 10-2003 |
Lets call in the bombers from Selfridge in and have em carpet-bomb that whole area. Make it one big lake! | ||
Mike Member Username: Mike Post Number: 1287 Registered: 11-2003 |
every major city needs great suburbs with cute lil downtowns. thats why i dont mind royal oak or birmingham too much. what bothers me is that heses lil downtowns come at the expense of the major central city's downtown | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 578 Registered: 01-2007 |
Lot's of prejudice here. Let's see. After 10+ years growing up in BH (before that Bloomfield Village) I think I can safely say that a lot of adolescents think their shit doesn't stink because daddy has a lot of money and buys them a fast car when they get their license. Then you have the sports stars. They come and go. But mostly you have work-aholics who own their own businesses. Why prejudge a community you do not know? In reverse, would it be wrong for me to say all of Detroit is burned-out slums? Of course it would. Since hidden away are communities & neighborhoods just as well kept up as anything available in Birmingham or Bloomfield Hills. | ||
Billpdx Member Username: Billpdx Post Number: 71 Registered: 05-2006 |
Bloomfield Hills needs more sidewalks. Nothing like having to drive somewhere, just so you can go for a walk. | ||
Umbound Member Username: Umbound Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2008 |
I love BH; it does need more sidewalks though but i went to school at Andover and my cousin went to Cranbrook; but what is going on to the land where the Fox and Hounds Inn was? | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 6235 Registered: 11-2003 |
Imagine if Detroit had an urban growth border and people had to actually live together and reinvest in Detroit together. jjaba. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 6238 Registered: 11-2003 |
Proof again, Ann Arbor is NOT a suburb. jjaba on the Westside. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 4534 Registered: 02-2005 |
They obviously didn't visit the area. For most/all the cities, it chose traditional, established suburbs which have pretty uniform attributes. For Detroit, it chose areas that do have small cores, but are mostly sprawling. How you can be talking about the Detroit area and then throw in Clarkston instead of Grosse Pointe is beyond me. One of them is the original suburb, the other is in metro Flint. Forbes specializes in producing irrelevant lists. (Message edited by mackinaw on March 29, 2008) | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 581 Registered: 01-2007 |
Umbound, Bendover, class of 1980. The Barons continually get their asses handed to them on a plate except in tennis & swimming. | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 582 Registered: 01-2007 |
BTW, do they still have the pictures of teams in the hallway in glass cases? I remember one of the basketball team in the 1960-70's with the PE teacher Jack Hoff (His real name!) in the short basketball shorts of the era. We nicknamed him "Lefty" since his left nut was visible in the pic! If he was 10 years younger, he would've been able to grab me and my friend smoking pot under the bleachers! Chased us around the lockers, pool, and into the parking lot. | ||
Umbound Member Username: Umbound Post Number: 68 Registered: 02-2008 |
And forensics!! haha thats about it. but yea they are still there. And i don't have anything towards Lahser students i had a lot of friends that went there (they have better parties for some reason) and still have a few that do. But Lahser is SO GHETTO now. | ||
Rel Member Username: Rel Post Number: 589 Registered: 02-2008 |
I moved from Detroit to Bloomfield, and I can say: It some ways, it kinda does suck. It's pretty culturally vacant (hey, aside from Cranbrook!). But it doesn't suck so much if you abhor sidewalks & love strip malls, and can afford a $3.50 head of cauliflower. That's why I still shop at Eastern Market. | ||
Ray Member Username: Ray Post Number: 1111 Registered: 06-2004 |
Birmingham Rocks! | ||
Melody Member Username: Melody Post Number: 175 Registered: 11-2007 |
I don't like cities like Birmingham. I don't deny it's beautiful and clean and safe and well-organized. But even if I could afford it, I wouldn't want to live in a city where everyone (badly) drives big SUVs, and the cops are really strict, and the drinks and services are very expensive. There is also no music scene (sorry, live music at Dick O'Dows does not a "scene" make), and the art scene is, well, *different* than the art scene in more urban areas. Also everything closes early and it's so far away from all the good entertainment stuff Detroit has to offer (sports games, concerts, festivals, etc.). It all depends on what you need out of life, and what I need is in the (313), hands down. | ||
Deandub11 Member Username: Deandub11 Post Number: 240 Registered: 05-2006 |
Meanwhile JR and UM, I know andover men's basketball was division 4 champions last year and its possible they won it again this year... Like you said JR, for a school that only does well in tennis and swimming, its pretty impressive. www.DetroitArmy.com | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 4551 Registered: 02-2005 |
Well said, Melody. In Grosse Pointe everything closes early, there's basically no entertainment, and even restaurants/bars are in short supply in its downtown, but at least it's very close to downtown and the city in general for all of its cultural amenities which you allude to. | ||
Karl Member Username: Karl Post Number: 10227 Registered: 09-2005 |
Melody said: "I don't like cities like Birmingham.....it's beautiful and clean and safe and well-organized." Spoken like a true Detroiter. | ||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 486 Registered: 07-2007 |
Karl, are you a propagandist by trade? You deliberately distorted what Melody said. | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 574 Registered: 09-2006 |
I agree with Melody, to each their own, the upper burbs really are very attractive and certainly offer a lifestyle preferred by many who are able to purchase in those areas. However, many of us prefer urban environments and dont particularily worry about some of the material needs of those areas nor the school systems. Just walking to the opener yesterday then sitting at Loco after having a drink and dinner with friends , the walking home once again drove home to me another reason why I personally really enjoy living downtown (along with my neighborhood) . No where else in this metro area could I do this and not even start a car. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 11451 Registered: 10-2003 |
Bill - I think the issue many of us have with the upper burbs is that they end up re-creating the same thing over and over. There are some beautiful upper and western suburbs that are very tranquil and peaceful but they will quickly be overrun into the same thing that we see time and time again around here. At one point M-59 was a beatiful and peaceful area as was areas around 23 and 26 mile roads but they have all turned into the same thing. Buying in a beautiful, peaceful northern suburb may veru well turn into a very frustrating expereience as the areas morph into what people were leaving in the first place. It's the SE Michigan cycle. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 2932 Registered: 04-2006 |
I still don't see how Detroit having high crime rates makes Bloomfield Hills valuable. Is Bloomfield Hills valuable because it is dependent upon Detroit? At one time, maybe. Today, not really. I'd be surprised if more than 50% of BH residents commuted to Detroit for work. | ||
Melody Member Username: Melody Post Number: 177 Registered: 11-2007 |
Mackinaw, check out Grosse Pointe Park's new bar Hard Luck Lounge (next to Dylan's, across from Village Idiot). Someday when I slow down (ha ha) I'd like to move to GPP just to be closer to places like Hard Luck and the Tap Room. | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 793 Registered: 11-2005 |
Karl is that you... welcome back! | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 4552 Registered: 02-2005 |
Mack and Kercheval in GP Park are exceptions, good point. I did not know they had a new bar on Mack, though, thanks for the head's up. | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 572 Registered: 04-2006 |
quote:I could not have said it better. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 835 Registered: 05-2004 |
You'd prefer a bombed out looking corridor like Grand River? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 11453 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Somebody missed the point altogether. Please re-read my post then comment. |
