  Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 869 Registered: 02-2004 |
I mean, the traffic is bad enough with it being in the Cultural District/WSU, but I shouldn't have to slam on the brakes everyday for disgruntled left-turners. Where do I send out my letter to? | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1551 Registered: 12-2004 |
I agree; that intersection is awful. | ||
Baliad Member Username: Baliad Post Number: 82 Registered: 08-2005 |
i too agree... i avoid that intersection at all costs... | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 4473 Registered: 02-2005 |
The angles when turning from Woodward onto Warren are pretty difficult, too (because of the median), with poor visibility of oncoming traffic when left turners are lined up. I don't think that those elaborate lights with left turn signals have a place at most city intersections, but this would be an exception. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1561 Registered: 04-2006 |
The intersection does employ the Michigan left concept with the median on Warren. What you are dealing with is not the fault of the intersection, it is uncaring/unaware drivers. In addition that metal fence in the median they put up to keep pedestrians from crossing does not do anyone any favors. Rip down the fence and have police regularly write tickets and you would see much of the problems go away. The addition of Michigan left signs would also help. Woodward is under the jurisdiction of MDOT. Warren is under Detroit. (Message edited by Detroitplanner on March 04, 2008) | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1710 Registered: 09-2007 |
Oh boo hoo! You people just aren't used to that good ol' urban hustle and bustle. You cry over one busy intersection in your CBD while other cities our size are filled with them. GIVE ME A BREAK! Just find another route if you dislike it. SHEESH!  | ||
Newlaster Member Username: Newlaster Post Number: 233 Registered: 06-2004 |
Detroitrise, Midtown is not the CBD. That intersection is unavoidable for many commutes. Congestion can be mostly avoided with smart planning. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1712 Registered: 09-2007 |
"Detroitrise, Midtown is not the CBD." That depends on who you ask. 150,000 workers in SE Michigan commute to and from there daily and it's fairly centralized. It sounds like the CBD to me "That intersection is unavoidable for many commutes. Congestion can be mostly avoided with smart planning." Also depends on who you ask. If you can't get around it, you simply don't know your way around this griddy city. (Message edited by detroitrise on March 04, 2008) | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 758 Registered: 04-2006 |
there also needs to be something changed about the intersection of Hancock and Woodward... just a stop sign with an obstructed view... i know one girl who got hit twice there... and hear of accidents there ALL the time... bad drivers and hancock/woodward don't mix... | ||
Mbr Member Username: Mbr Post Number: 325 Registered: 03-2005 |
No. The CBD is the area bounded by the freeways. And, I agree, if you can't find your way around traffic in Midtown you have some serious directional problems. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1713 Registered: 09-2007 |
"No. The CBD is the area bounded by the freeways." Like I said, it depends on who you ask. Manhattan in New York is the region's CBD, but all of it isn't downtown | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 1976 Registered: 07-2004 |
Meh, whatever. I think our cash-strapped city should install a left-turn lane there because it makes the Wayne State commuters feel more comfortable when they're going home. Actually, I take that back; they should just get over it. | ||
Newlaster Member Username: Newlaster Post Number: 237 Registered: 06-2004 |
Detroitrise, not nearly all of Manhattan is NY's CBD. NYC has two CBD's: Downtown and Midtown Manhattan. And Detroit has one, which does not include Midtown. Please discontinue your misinformative statements. | ||
Traxus Member Username: Traxus Post Number: 125 Registered: 02-2006 |
I can't count the number of times I've nearly been hit trying to cross that fucking intersection. Apparently pedestrians do not have right of way when cars are making a right or left hand turn. | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 1977 Registered: 07-2004 |
Carry a tremendous baseball bat and swing it back and forth as you cross the street. I guarantee you won't be hit. ;) | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1715 Registered: 09-2007 |
lol nerd. Newlaster, THIS FIRST POSTER is "misinformed" https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/5/130255.html?1204666794 | ||
Newlaster Member Username: Newlaster Post Number: 239 Registered: 06-2004 |
Well, that thread has nothing to with this one. It's about a Michigan State Representative who won $2 million in the state lottery and the lack of media investigation into the matter. But I would like more attention for that thread. So thank you Detroitrise; please pollute all the other threads with links to that one as well. | ||
Michigansheik Member Username: Michigansheik Post Number: 271 Registered: 09-2005 |
you guys can write the detroit traffic engineering division they'll respond, might not get a light but the reason why there isn't one. same for the intersection at hancock. (Message edited by michigansheik on March 04, 2008) | ||
Rfban Member Username: Rfban Post Number: 263 Registered: 02-2004 |
This is a Dangerous intersection that needs to be addressed. It is one of the busiest intersections in the region--and yet very unorganized and obviously without a turn light. Let me know what I can do to help. | ||
Jazzylinn Member Username: Jazzylinn Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2008 |
I agree that it needs that signal. The traffic is quiet heavy. Have waited to turn onto Warren for about 15 minutes one time. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 4576 Registered: 10-2003 |
How well I know that intersection. I barely avoided death that intersection six years or so ago. I driving north and was stopped at the light. I pulled into the intersection when the light turned green. I had some distraction on my right but was fortunate to catch out of the corner of my left eye a beat up pick up barreling through the red light straight at me. He would have T-boned me but I was able turn just enough to make him glance off my driverside door and fender spinning my car sideways. My car was severely damaged but luckily I was unharmed. Cops were on the scene in two minutes and he was ticketed. When I reflect back on that, if there had been turn arrows, this probably would not have happened as the sequence of turns would have eliminated that run-through for my situation. Nonetheless, I watch every intersection religiously. It takes just one oversight. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 7268 Registered: 11-2004 |
It IS a dangerous intersection. I've seen far too many close calls and few too many crashes there. And no offense detroitrise, it's not about complaining without validity or being wimpy. Think about it- how does a city suddenly determine which intersection needs to be corrected? Obviously those of us here who've used that intersection or have seen it think it needs a different turn signal configuration. This isn't about Detroiters being softer than people in NYC. It has to do with the amount of traffic that this intersection has obviously risen to. This intersection needs correcting- plain & simple. | ||
Michigansheik Member Username: Michigansheik Post Number: 275 Registered: 09-2005 |
Again, please write the City's Traffic Engineering Division: http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/dp w/default.htm If we do this they'll conduct a traffic pattern study and follow up. |
