Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 5281 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 11:53 am: | |
http://www.wlns.com/Global/story.asp?S=7908965&nav=0RbQ
quote:ROMULUS, Mich. (AP) - Detroit Metropolitan Airport officials are proposing a new, 10,000-foot runway that would displace 3,500 people. The 1,700-acre project would force 15% of Romulus's 24,000 residents to move, and city officials are considering a resolution against the move Monday. The plan for a seventh runway also would force the closing of 2 elementary schools and 50 businesses. Airport officials say they need the new runway to handle a projected 2.3% annual increase in traffic -- from 36 million passengers today to 60 million by 2027. Detroit Metro is the nation's 11th-busiest airport.
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Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2733 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:01 pm: | |
Is Metro that congested? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5298 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:06 pm: | |
It's a 20-year plan, and it'll be years before any land acquisitions. But it makes those properties harder to sell in the interim, if the plan goes into effect. |
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman
Post Number: 253 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:40 pm: | |
... thus driving down the initial bargaining price once they get around to making offers for land acquisition. Wall Street move- still sucks for the 3500 people living there. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 5284 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:46 pm: | |
I doubt they could sell their houses for much right now anyway. Anybody looking to purchase in metro Detroit has a plethora of options, they aren't going to live next to the airport in Romulus. Maybe this will finally be a chance to escape with a little cash for some people.
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Downriviera Member Username: Downriviera
Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:56 pm: | |
20 years from now the planes should be able to take off straight up, like the Harrier jets. No need for runways. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5301 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:57 pm: | |
Huh? Somebody there is now better off??? The airport won't buy any properties for maybe a decade. However, now the owner of any affected property (by law) will have to notify any potential buyer (for any such buyer who sleeps like Rip van Winkel) about the airport's plan to take the property. That causes a substantial drop in market value, now and later. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5302 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:00 pm: | |
quote:20 years from now the planes should be able to take off straight up, like the Harrier jets. No need for runways. Now this post is the most absurd, to date, this thread... How about landing a plane that way--without power (as in an engine failure)???! More than once, for each plane. |
Detroitpetanque Member Username: Detroitpetanque
Post Number: 59 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:00 pm: | |
Downriviera: Nah, in 20 years we'll all have those cool teleportation pads like they have in Star Trek! |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 1558 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:10 pm: | |
They should use this as justification to improve the Aerotropolis links between Metro and Willow run instead. Willow Run has extra capacity, why not use it and provide transit between the two instead? |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 1544 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:22 pm: | |
Why does a city like Romulus exist at all? Let's just roll in into one of the cities adjacent. That would reduce government and increase the ability of the airport to expand without annihilating a community. |
Downriviera Member Username: Downriviera
Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:27 pm: | |
Romulus, home of the Landing Strip topless bar, that received government money to remodel because its in a historic building. Now thats progress! |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 5304 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:33 pm: | |
quote:Romulus, home of the Landing Strip topless bar, that received government money to remodel because its in a historic building... topless? Hell, Detroit has a number of buildings without roofs. Is that all it takes to become historic? |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 11343 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:39 pm: | |
Pole Town 2? Does anyone know how strong the neighborhood's are? Is this another case of reuining solid communities for 'progress' |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 11661 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 3:59 pm: | |
Twenty years ago they were saying we'd all be flying in twenty years... |
Sirrealone Member Username: Sirrealone
Post Number: 94 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 4:01 pm: | |
quote:topless? Hell, Detroit has a number of buildings without roofs. Is that all it takes to become historic? Best laugh I've had all day! |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2331 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 5:10 pm: | |
Some one correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't a 7th runway make DTW have one more runways than O'Hare? |
Downriviera Member Username: Downriviera
Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 5:16 pm: | |
My bad, I'm dating myself with "Topless Bar". Now they are Gentlemen's Clubs! I liked it better when they were topless bars or strip clubs, though. The ladies were friendlier. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1125 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 5:32 pm: | |
Reminds me of the best New York Post headline ever, regarding a 1983 murder in a "Gentlemen's Club" in which the victim was decapitated. But that's the genteel way of saying it, whereas this was the Post way: HEADLESS BODY IN TOPLESS BAR Now that's journalism. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 1126 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 5:34 pm: | |
In case you thought I was making this up:
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Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 428 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 5:57 pm: | |
Hope this doesn't end up like the mistake St. Louis did |
Clark1mt Member Username: Clark1mt
Post Number: 134 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 7:38 pm: | |
"Some one correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't a 7th runway make DTW have one more runways than O'Hare?" As it stands now, yes. But O'Hare is in the early stages of a big overhaul that will end with the airport having eight runways, including 6 parallel ones. |
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 130 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 3:06 pm: | |
Maybe in 20 years, the U.S. will have a large network of high-speed bullet trains that crisscross the country, and won't need airports at all. Here's to wishful thinking! |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 7149 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 7:02 am: | |
In the Roman Empire when Nero was emperor, Rome burned when Nero fiddled ( actually he played a lyre). Now Romulus burned while the Wayne County execs. fiddled with a proposed runway and 15% of your Romulans will lose their homes and businesses. Aetrotropolis here we come. |
Trainman Member Username: Trainman
Post Number: 640 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 1:13 pm: | |
In twenty years, there might be enough land in the city of Detroit to build a new airport including the new proposed runway; if the new large billion dollars federally funded SEMCOG/MDOT freeways get built. This will take away even more precious funding from mass transit, create more pollution and noise, force people to move and make it easier for drivers to come downtown without paying for SMART and DDOT. Livonia is seeing the effects of losing SMART. People do not want to move into areas with lots of traffic congestion and poor or non-existent mass transit. So, they move further out into the country or to cities that have good mass transit. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2337 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 1:24 pm: | |
"As it stands now, yes. But O'Hare is in the early stages of a big overhaul that will end with the airport having eight runways, including 6 parallel ones." Not to put Detroit down or anything, but DTW is not really as busy as ORD. It really does seem unnecessary for the DTW airport authority to be quite this proactive in adding another runway. Seems to me that DTW's last additional runway hasn't even been around for even a decade yet. "Four runways will be added and two decommissioned in order to give the airfield an eight-runway parallel configuration similar to those in Dallas. This plan is essential to O'Hare in alleviating the airport's flight limits so O'Hare will not be eclipsed by other airports in terms of passenger numbers in the future." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Hare_International_Airport#Mo dernization_plan So why does DTW feel the need to be keeping up with O'Hare's runway capacity? It's hard to argue that that makes sense or is necessary... |
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1677 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 1:39 pm: | |
"So why does DTW feel the need to be keeping up with O'Hare's runway capacity? It's hard to argue that that makes sense or is necessary..." To plan ahead? Just like they should have done with the mass transportation system. |
Dag Member Username: Dag
Post Number: 223 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 1:51 pm: | |
Further, with the potential merger of NWA and Delta we might see some of the hub operations move from Cincy to Detroit. With this as well as additional growth, it makes sense to be proactive in the planning process. |