Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2636 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 7:55 am: | |
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20080206/POLIT ICS/802060394 Yes? No? Maybe? |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 1468 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 7:59 am: | |
Karmanos is definitely pushing him to do it. |
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 859 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 8:18 am: | |
I think he has a decent shot at it. It's not so much his past, its Granholm's present reign that will push for a change. |
Scooter2k7 Member Username: Scooter2k7
Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 8:34 am: | |
"Yes. And in a Democratic primary, a quarter to a third of voters are African-American." Yes this is a nice comment. Nice to see that we paid attention in civics class on the lesson about voting. What ever happen to voting for a candidate because you agree with his platform? |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 3423 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 8:34 am: | |
I don't think outstate will go for him. |
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision
Post Number: 543 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 8:47 am: | |
He doesn't need outstate - they vote republican anyway. He needs Oakland County - that's usually one of the "pivot" areas, and he can win that. I don't mean this as a knock at all - but Dennis is well-respected as a fighter for Detroit while being professional and uplifting in the suburbs, a well-respected bridge builder. He'd get plenty of votes - I think more than you think in areas that you wouldn't think. Lots of people in the 'burbs and outstate think that Archer did a great job in Detroit and that the city would be much better off if he had stayed. |
401don Member Username: 401don
Post Number: 258 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 2:34 pm: | |
Archer's time as mayor coincided almost exactly with Clinton as president. Did they have a good relationship and did Detroit benefit much? Would another Archer/Clinton combo be good for Detroit? |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2639 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 2:52 pm: | |
quote:Did they have a good relationship and did Detroit benefit much? Would another Archer/Clinton combo be good for Detroit? The Clintons will not be back in the White House in November no matter who wins the Democratic primary. |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 353 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 2:59 pm: | |
Archer is graduate of Western Michigan University; he'll do fine as Michigan's next Governor. |
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman
Post Number: 227 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 3:50 pm: | |
You have to wonder who he'd go up against on the Republican side. Do you think Craig DeRoche has the cajones or hubris to throw his hat in the ring? Unless they came up with a competitive candidate (i.e. someone more impressive than DeVos, whom much hope and expectation was wasted upon), I think it'd be a pretty easy slide to Lansing for Archer. |
Texorama Member Username: Texorama
Post Number: 157 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 3:58 pm: | |
Yeah, he's actually *from* southwestern Michigan if I remember correctly. It could work. But I wonder who's pushing it. The plan was surely to have John Cherry be heir apparent, but somebody's not down with that. |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 3774 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 3:59 pm: | |
I would vote for him I met him once at the Metro Airport Baggage Claim, he was collecting his luggage. He was the current Mayor and he was collecting his own luggage, with no entourage. We talked for a few minutes while we were waiting, I was very impressed. |
321brian Member Username: 321brian
Post Number: 569 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 4:00 pm: | |
He should run for Mayor again. |
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313
Post Number: 606 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 4:06 pm: | |
As mayor he turned the city's junk status into A.... As Governor, he could really have an astounding effect on the economy. It's a win win for Detroit! Win #1: If Obama wins, Maybe Archer can lobby for more money for Michigan's central city. Win #2: If Hillary wins, Archer has great ties to the the family anyway. <313> Archer has my vote. |
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass
Post Number: 457 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 4:15 pm: | |
John Cherry is a putz... lapping at the high-heels of Granwhore. I'd rather have Archer. |
Evelyn Member Username: Evelyn
Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 5:42 pm: | |
I think that having a governor that has run Michigan’s largest city would be incredibly beneficial- not just to Detroit, but to the whole state. Now I’m going to be a history dork, and mention that when I first saw this thread, I instantly thought of Detroit mayor Hazen Pingree (who was Detroit’s mayor and Michigan’s governor at the same time, albeit briefly.) |
Unclefrank Member Username: Unclefrank
Post Number: 133 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 5:49 pm: | |
He would at least be honest. As gov he would be just another clueless liberal. I do think he is a good guy though. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2295 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 5:58 pm: | |
No he can't be elected. He is a democrat. That would be akin to electing another Republican into the White House because people liked the job that George W. did. Chances are much better that the next governor will be a Republican than a Democrat. |
Living_in_the_d Member Username: Living_in_the_d
Post Number: 42 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 6:14 pm: | |
Yeah, He most definitely can, and hopefully will be elected the next Gov. of Mi. |
Kgrimmwsu Member Username: Kgrimmwsu
Post Number: 106 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 6:39 pm: | |
I would love to have a WMU BRONCO as governor! (Message edited by KGrimmwsu on February 06, 2008) |
Warrenite84 Member Username: Warrenite84
Post Number: 235 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 7:36 pm: | |
Although I'm a Republican, I do have a lot of respect for Dennis Archer. At least he is accomplished, builds bridges between groups, and has high integrity. He would be a tough, worthy opponent. I'd still lean towards Dick DeVos. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 11320 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 7:40 pm: | |
quote:Do you think Craig DeRoche has the cajones or hubris to throw his hat in the ring? If that POS (or Mike Bishop for that matter) became Governor I would pack up and leave the state the following day. I would not want to live in a State whose majority thinks that Craig DeRoche is capable to lead a state. |
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 1549 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 7:54 pm: | |
Republicans you can expect to run for governor. Mike Cox, attorney general, term limited out of office in 10 Mike Rogers, congressman from Brighton for last eight years Candice Miller, congresswoman from Macomb County since 02 Terri Lynn Land, secretary of state, term limited out of office in 10 |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 425 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 9:16 pm: | |
Word around town is that DeRoche wants L. Brooks Patterson's job. Until Brooks decides to hang it up, I would bet that DeRoche will be working the lobbying side of government once his term is up. |
Raptor56 Member Username: Raptor56
Post Number: 259 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:36 pm: | |
As a Republican who really can't stand most of the current crop of MI democrats (Jenny from the block, Kwame the super texter, Stabenow the human garbage disposal, etc, etc), I would actually not threaten to leave the state if Archer won the governorship. I wouldn't necessarily vote for him, however I don't think I would be too opposed to him winning. Now if Monica Conyers decided to jump from city council to governor, that's be a whole 'nother story. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2644 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 7:35 am: | |
quote:Word around town is that DeRoche wants L. Brooks Patterson's job. Until Brooks decides to hang it up, I would bet that DeRoche will be working the lobbying side of government once his term is up. I doubt he gets it. I predict that LBPs successor will be a lot more progressive. |
Rugbyman Member Username: Rugbyman
Post Number: 229 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 9:10 am: | |
I can't see Cherry getting the nomination. Firstly, the only reason he has any sort of name recognition is because he had his name in tiny print along the bottom of the campaign signs in the last cycle. Second, the administration's not even trying to interject him into any initiatives, major or minor. When was the last time you even saw him quoted? What's he going to say he did for the past eight years other than draw a $150K a year salary? My money's on Archer (should he choose to enter) or Bob Ficano for the Dems and probably Mike Cox for the Reds. If it does come down to Archer and Ficano in a primary, look for Bob to take some pretty big swings for the fence and a messy campaign. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 1536 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 9:36 am: | |
Count Scary for Governor! |
Texorama Member Username: Texorama
Post Number: 158 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 9:47 am: | |
Here's an example of Archer's ability to talk the talk in West Michigan: http://www.dowagiacnews.com/ar ticles/2005/08/17/news/dnnews1 .txt |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 1569 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:42 am: | |
Not a chance. He's a drop-out and has had no "presence" in the last 6 years plus. His endorsement of Freman did diddly squat. I just don't see it. Remember, he quit the Mayorship because he wanted a normal life. I believe he said something like he wanted to be able to go to a movie with Trudy. Doesn't sound like someone who is remotely interested in a political career again. If Granholm goes to work for Hillary, it sounds like Cherry has a lot of support. Don't see Archer going repub. |
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway
Post Number: 1552 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:42 am: | |
Look for Duggan to make a solid run for the dems, along with another lower profile state legislator or two. It's going to be interesting to see who comes out for this race and who (money wise) backs whom. |
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav
Post Number: 354 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 2:49 pm: | |
I agree with 321brian...Detroit needs Dennis Archer now. Can't we just arrest KK now; charge him with something later - Lord knows there will be plenty of charges. ARREST and/or RECALL KK INSTATE ARCHER.....GO BRONCOS! |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4411 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 3:00 pm: | |
I think Archer provided stability and a fair amount of direction for the City when I was mayor. Many more good things have happened to the City since Kilpatrick has been mayor, but that doesn't make Archer a slouch. I believe he could do great things as governor. He would certainly be 100 percent better than Granholm, he would be a steadier person to have at the helm, and he would make Detroit more of a priority. If it was Archer v. Devos, I would vote Archer. We'll see who the Republicans come up with, but I'm not expecting anything good in this state. |
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger
Post Number: 521 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 3:33 pm: | |
Most of the "good things" that have happened to the city since Kilpatrick has been mayor were projects which were started under the Archer administration (with much help from Ed McNamara) and came to fruition under the Kilpatrick administration. Aside from the Book-Cadillac and Fort Shelby renovations, One Kennedy Square and additional work on the east Riverwalk, I can't think of any other "good things" for which Kilpatrick is responsible. |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 1113 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 4:10 pm: | |
Yeah, Archer is from southwest Michigan, but I don't think that part of the state would go for him. Or the UP. Or Traverse City area. Hell, I don't know if DETROIT would go for him. All those ill feelings over PlowMyStreetGate. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 1570 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 4:36 pm: | |
YOu guys are crazy. Archer didn't do half the stuff Kwame is doing now. Seriously. Scandal aside...NO comparison. Trust me I've lived downtown throughout both terms...ask anyone who's done more to bring business, shopping, people down to Detroit. Don't forget...Archer pulled out of his sure-thing re-election. He QUIT. He screwed his deputy by not cluing him in, and left us with, what I thought then, a horrible choice between a totally inexperienced person, Kwame, and that old actor dude who could hardly put a sentence together (can't remember his name). If you don't like Kwame...you can follow the root of it and place the blame directly on the shoulders of DENNIS ARCHER. Come on now kiddies...think about it. |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 4717 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 5:26 pm: | |
"yes? No? Maybe?" Hopefully. |
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 1006 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 6:00 pm: | |
I can think of nothing worse. Christine Beatty would make a better governor. Honest? Based on the designation of MGM as a casino developer and the terms of the deal which made his friends partners in the deal, it's my opinion he got a major kickback out of the deal or he's the dumbest politician that ever lived. |
Treelock Member Username: Treelock
Post Number: 268 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 6:03 pm: | |
DeRoche has little vision, chemistry or name recognition (yes, I know he was the House speaker, but who outside of political junkies cares?) and thus no realistic shot at the governor's seat. I, too, think the Oakland County executive position will end up going to someone more progressive whenever it opens up. Remember, Oakland County has gone Democratic in the past three presidential elections. But barring the discovery of him in bed with a schoolgirl, Brooks has the job for as long as he wants it. |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1666 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 6:15 pm: | |
DeRoche has no chance of winning a primary he has been an obstructionist of most meaningful legislation in the house. He whines about anything the Dems come up with. I put him up there with Leon Drolet in terms of actually doing something useful as a politician. I see Dick DeVos trying to run again before I see DeRoche being a serious candidate. |
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl
Post Number: 422 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 12:18 am: | |
I like Archer. If he ran for governor, I would vote for him. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 4412 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 12:29 am: | |
Quinn pinpoints how Archer did not create much energy for the city. Unfortunately Kilpatrick just would not win a statewide election, but Archer might, and he might be the next best thing in terms of having someone in Lansing who will prioritize the City. Of course, Duggan and Ficano might run, too, and I think they would make Detroit/area their priority as well. |
Granmontrules Member Username: Granmontrules
Post Number: 305 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 1:18 am: | |
I doubt if Detroit would vote for him. Some neighbors of ours were over tonight for chili and we were discussing it and none of us were that interested in seeing him run. One of the guests commented that he was a "whimp" and I guess I would agree. He couldn't take the heat of Detroit how in the heck could he handle a state. |
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass
Post Number: 464 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 4:19 am: | |
He could always appoint a commission to "study the issue", like Grandwhore. |
Orange_barrel Member Username: Orange_barrel
Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2008
| Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 1:34 pm: | |
I agree with Mackinaw; with Archer as Governor we'll at least have a dependable advocate for Detroit in the state's top job. |