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Johnlodge
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Questions about the Michigan Primaries:

Do you have to be registered to a party to vote in that party's primary?

Who is actually in the Michigan primary, now that candidates have withdrawn because of the date move?

Doesn't this give all the votes to whoever is still in?

How does that effect the nomination process?
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Mcp001
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, just declare a preference.

All the declared republican candidates. Less than half of the democrats.

No.

This is still up in the air depending on when/if the delegates will be seated at the conventions.
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Nyct
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dodd dropped out after iowa so that leaves hillary and one other obscure candidate on the democratic side ... wonder who's gonna win that one.

hopefully michigan is the only state she wins.
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Texorama
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can vote uncommitted in the Dem primary if you don't want Hillary. That's what I'm going to do.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the DNC officially pulled all it's delegates from Michigan and the RNC pulled half of it's delegates?
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Cinderpath
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the DNC officially pulled all it's delegates from Michigan and the RNC pulled half of it's delegates?

-They did, and only Hillary is on the ballot for the dems, so ironically I am voting for Ron Paul on the Republican side.

Frankly I am really pissed at the Democrats for this.
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Mcp001
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True, they "officially" pulled their delegates as a form of "punishment".

But given that we still hold electorial votes, I anticipate both parties eventually allowing the delegates to be seated in the name of "unity" or some other B.S. spin just before the conventions.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is really stupid. At a time when Michigan's voice REALLY needs to be heard, it will barely be heard at all. Talk about disenfranchising voters.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mcp, that would be interesting. Especially since no candidates would have campaigned or spent money here. An election based on convinction instead of money spent?
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Talk about disenfranchising voters."

Who's fault is this??? Shouldn't have moved up the primary...
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Professorscott
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Counterpoint: Why is it the political parties get to set the rules as to when the public can vote? Who the hell appointed them God?
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Mbr
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's the system's fault. Someone needs to step up and fix it, and that's what we're trying to do. We would have been disenfranchised anyway by voting with the other states in February. The system we have is terrible. Over $100 million dollars spent campaigning for less than 10% of voters in a small, mostly rural state.
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Gistok
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed!
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Mcp001
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mbr, political parties control the legislature, governor position and supreme court. They will never step up to fix anything that serves their own self interest.

If anything is ever to get done, it will involve citizens changing things through the petition process, and hopefully not the 4th Box of Liberty. The "parties" will do what they can to slow down the former, but they cannot stop it if there is sufficient interest.
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Fnemecek
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Counterpoint: Why is it the political parties get to set the rules as to when the public can vote? Who the hell appointed them God?


Answer: The U.S. Congress decided that the parties get to set their own rules for determining nominees. Delegates to the 2004 conventions determined the rules.
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We would have been disenfranchised anyway by voting with the other states in February.


Really? Most of the nation voting on one day is "disenfranchisement"?

What do you call what happens in November when the entire nation votes on one day?
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Wilus1mj
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hillary is the only one with "balls" to keep her name on the ballot.
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Lefty2
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i can't stand Billary but this is where he could come back!

many good points here.

The way to fix things is to vote out back politicians that do not change bad policies.

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