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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 562
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:51 am: |    |
One year before the Superbowl hit Detroit, the city started major improvements throughout downtown. NOw with the Final 4 coming in March 2009, What will be done to Prepare us for such a monsterous event. What major projects will be complete just in time? |
Gsgeorge
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Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 469
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:53 am: | |
Casinos should be finished by then. |
Kenp
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Username: Kenp
Post Number: 922
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:53 am: | |
Book Cadillac will be open |
Kid_dynamite
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Username: Kid_dynamite
Post Number: 420
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:03 am: | |
I really want to rent out my condo in Brush Park for the Final Four to the media. Anybody know how to go about looking into this? Any idea on how much I could get for a week? |
Iheartthed
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Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2382
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:15 am: | |
quote:I really want to rent out my condo in Brush Park for the Final Four to the media. Anybody know how to go about looking into this? Any idea on how much I could get for a week?
I remember seeing some web sites set up specifically for this around the Super Bowl. I know people who rented out their places in Ann Arbor to who were in town for it. You could also put something up on craigs list about it.
(Message edited by iheartthed on December 17, 2007) |
Kenp
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Username: Kenp
Post Number: 923
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:26 am: | |
For the super bowl the media was setup at the Rencen. A smart move by Penske. Im not sure if the plan is the same for the final 4.
I think your best bet would be to wait until the final 4 is decided then advertise in the area of the teams coming. |
Jt1
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Post Number: 11041
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
I suspect that the casinos will push hard to get their fair share of the media. |
Jt1
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Username: Jt1
Post Number: 11042
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
I suspect that the casinos will push hard to get their fair share of the media. |
Downtown_remix
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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 563
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
I plan to rent my loft in Harmony Park for the final 4, I look forward to seeing Woodward, and other major would-be retail district open up those closed up storefronts with restaurants,bars, and sporting memoribliia. Some will shut down after the games but some will stay. I look forward to seeing Sheilds pizza, the Rosa Parks Transit center, A finished riverwalk, a renovated Eastern MArket, Pick fort Shelby Double Tree Hotel, Book Cadillac hetel.. |
Detroithabitater
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Username: Detroithabitater
Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:43 am: | |
I know the I-75/I-96/Ambassador bridge/Bagley street pedestrian bridge project is aiming to be finished by then. |
Detroitrise
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Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1149
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:02 pm: | |
Well, all the bars and restaurants and public places will have to be replaced with futuristic TV's. |
Downtown_remix
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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 564
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 1:04 pm: | |
I look forward to seeing the David whitney and Broderick with bustling storfronts |
Emu_steve
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Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 538
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 1:19 pm: | |
the 'problem' with the Final Four is except for the coaches (who have their convention, I believe, in conjunction with the Final Four) there is little reason for most to get into town TOO early.
The number of tickets distributed to the 4 participants is not great.
I tried to get tixs when George Mason made the final four ('06). I would have come to Indy on Friday and left after Mason lost.
Indy wouldn't have gotten rich off of me... |
Downtown_remix
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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 565
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 7:28 pm: | |
ive never been to a host cities final four. what impact will it have on our fragile economy? |
Danindc
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Username: Danindc
Post Number: 3833
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 7:32 pm: | |
quote:ive never been to a host cities final four. what impact will it have on our fragile economy?
Slightly more than your typical weekend of three college basketball games--certainly not enough to justify all sorts of new permanent investment.
Of course, I have no doubt in my mind the City of Detroit will feel compelled to demolish another historic building or two in order to provide more parking. |
Downtown_remix
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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 566
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 8:05 pm: | |
im thinking it will be a great excuse to do some small scale developpment to our lack of retail. Old storefronts will see new life.
Detroit is the eating-est city in the world, so bring the food -n- booze joints. fill downtown with ribs, pasta,sushi, coneys, flaming cheese, vodka, merlot, hennessy. |
Emu_steve
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Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 539
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 8:28 pm: | |
quote:
"Slightly more than your typical weekend of three college basketball games--certainly not enough to justify all sorts of new permanent investment."
Agree.
Detroit will gain more in PR then in actual visitor dollars.
Count on the visitors being in town Friday through Monday.
Hotels should do very good business.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Greektown H-C do very well. After all what else is there to do on that Sunday????
I believe there is probably open practices on say Friday. |
Charlottepaul
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Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2156
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:56 pm: | |
"I think your best bet would be to wait until the final 4 is decided then advertise in the area of the teams coming."
Not necessarily. I don't think that the world will even know what teams are going to be in the final four until maybe just a few days before the event. For example, people that buy tickets to the final four games will be buying them like a year ahead and could prob. care less what team they go and see at the event. |
Downtown_remix
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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 567
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:58 pm: | |
perception will continue to improve because of such event.
Downtown, by March 2009 will have a better flow of normality. more retail, more restaurants, more convienience stores. |
Kenp
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Username: Kenp
Post Number: 928
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:07 pm: | |
Your right Charlottepaul, some people will buy in advance. The difference is on Sunday, the weekend before, all 4 teams will be decided. Each team is allowed Some number of tickets for students and alumni. These are the people who will be scrambling for rooms, and be willing to pay more due to last minute planning. |
Detroitstar
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Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 845
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 2:11 pm: | |
Having been to 3 of MSU's 4 Final fours in the last 8 seasons, I think some of your are underestimating the impact of this event. Those that come for "all the events" will likely arrive Thursday night. In St Louis in 2005, they said that 85% of the hotels were full Thursday. That doesnt sound like much, but that is huge.
Also, with the championship game being on a monday late at night, the majority of people staying the weekend will not leave until tuesday. The monday of the championship is the most exciting. In 2000 in Indianapolis, the streets hosting the festival were full by 10am and the bars were loaded by noon.
Dont forget that even though some people leave when their team loses on Saturday, that many people come in to see their team in the championship. There are also several thousand people that will follow their team to the city and participate in all the events, but not go to the games. |
Rax
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Username: Rax
Post Number: 60
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 2:24 pm: | |
The "loft rental" market for this event will be slim to none. The crowd/media will be no where near what was here for the SB. Also, there will be about 1000 more hotel rooms downtown than there were in 2005. I wouldn't bank on hitting it big Mr. Remix. Old storefronts will see new life? How so? |
Professorscott
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Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 966
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 3:19 pm: | |
Nobody expects their team to lose, so people buy the cheap nonrefundable plane tickets and they're in town all weekend no matter what. This is from direct personal experience.
Nobody is going to create new retail stores or restaurants for a one-shot weekend-long event. However, this is one more event adding to the downtown vibe. By itself, it's small; as part of a trend, it's great. |
Reetz12
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 3:46 pm: | |
Why wait until 2009? There will be the same amount of games this year in March 2008 with the Regionals. With 2 Games on Friday and 1 Game on Sunday. Most schools that make it this far in the NCAA tournament, travel very well to support their school/teams. By no means will this compare to the SuperBowl hype, but I'm sure that downtown bars/restaurants will cater to the crowds and do very well on this weekend. As far as the Final Four in 2009, there will be more media then 2008. You might get a few extra fans that will come to the city to party, but nothing like the SuperBowl with a weeks of parties and events leading up to the big game. All in all both of these basketball weekends should be a goodtime in the city. |
Tayshaun22
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 5:04 pm: | |
I just can't wait to stand outside of the gates Saturday night and buy tickets for Monday's game from fans of the losing teams.
I'm expecting MSU, Louisville, Duke, and Georgetown to be there. |
Detroitstar
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Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 846
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 5:47 pm: | |
I am convinced that for the last four years, Tom Izzo has been recruiting specifically to win a title in his back yard in 2009. The names on next years squad are downright scary...
Morgan, Suton, Ibok, Grey, Walton, Dahlman, Herzog, Lucious, Roe, Green, lucas, Summers, Allen
SCARY! |
401don
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 6:28 pm: | |
So I could go to the basketball March 30 and then go stand outside in the snow and watch the Tigers on the 31st! |
Thegryphon
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:38 pm: | |
After the SB didn't the media rave about how much better the D's SB was in comparison to Miami? I remember how Miami already had a SB set up for the future. Does Detroit have anything lined up? IMO something else to look forward to. |
Detroitstar
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Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 847
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:43 pm: | |
Detroit will get the SB every 20 years, at best. we only got it because of the new stadium. |
Detroitrise
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Username: Detroitrise
Post Number: 1154
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:34 pm: | |
^^^That's been the only reason we've gotten several conventions/events lately. |
Rax
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 10:18 am: | |
We only got the Super Bowl because of Ford. It had nothing to do with a new stadium. |
Detroitstar
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Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 850
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 12:24 pm: | |
Rax, you are telling me that we would have had the super bowl in 2006 if it were held at the silverdome? It had everything to do with Mr Ford's investment in a new facility and the upgrade that brings to he NFL. |
Ndavies
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Post Number: 2913
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 12:54 pm: | |
Rax, we wouldn't have got the superbowl without the new stadium. Even with Mr Ford's and the big three's pressure. |
Mind_field
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Post Number: 848
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 1:15 pm: | |
hmmmm, another excuse to light up the skyline like during the superbowl? |
Rax
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:05 pm: | |
I agree. After the debacle of SB XVI in Pontiac, they would have never given Detroit another SB without a new stadium. Point taken. Detroit is the only cold weather city to ever host the SB other than Minnesota I believe. Why is that? Other cold weather cities with domes like St. Louis and Seattle (when they had the Kingdome) haven't gotten the chance. Can you imagine if functioning cities like Chicago, NY, etc had domed stadiums? Detroit would be on the bottom of that pile, new stadium and all. |