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Username: Raggedclaws
Post Number: 88
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:09 pm: |    |
Detroit has a long rich & history of neighborhood bars. Anyone remember Sexton's in the Warrendale area ? Family owned & run in the 50's & 60's, patrons all knew each other as old friends.
There was a huge cluster of saloons and dance halls between West Grand and Lawton, and Mich Ave and Warren in the 1890s. I think it was a Bohemian area then, my family lived in the area & they were Bo & Polish.
My family owned a bar on the corner of Ash & Tillman (gone now), lived above. During Prohibition they referred to it as a "soft drink" saloon.
Oh, and I think the offending post is staying to embarrass Cyberstanford. |
The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 699
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:14 pm: | |
What about the Brass Rail on Woodward @ W. Grand Blvd.? My grandmother worked there part-time while running her restaurant "Sug's Grill" on 12th street. |
Elimarr
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Username: Elimarr
Post Number: 29
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:20 pm: | |
I remember a corner bar in Hamtramck that had a neon spiderweb behind glass blocks right near the entrance. It was not one of the many bars in Hamtramck with live music, more like a "shot & a beer" type place. Don't know the name of it since I always just thought of it as the Spiderweb Bar (or maybe that WAS the name.) Wonder if it is still there on Conant? |
Xd_brklyn
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Username: Xd_brklyn
Post Number: 337
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:26 pm: | |
"What about the Brass Rail on Woodward @ W. Grand Blvd.?"
Wasn't the Brass Rail with the two large figures in relief on the facade on Michigan Avenue just across from Lafayette Coney Island? Or was there more than one Brass Rail? |
The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 702
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 1:00 pm: | |
I'm not certain. I remember a large brass "hinge" on the outside of the place or a large brass rail near the door.
I think it may have been a gay bar. |
Spacemonkey
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Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 258
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 1:10 pm: | |
Detroit is indeed a city of bars, on windows, steering wheels and cell doors. But as far as establishments in which to drink. They are few and far between anymore, as are the people who'd patronize them. |
Brandon48202
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Username: Brandon48202
Post Number: 195
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 1:17 pm: | |
For all of you out there wishing you had your very own bar here is your GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY!!
Bar (with liquor license) and AND Bank for sale located at 3401 and 3415 Michigan Ave. All for the low low price of only $350,000- negotiable! Land Contract terms OK with large downpayment.
Contact Brandon at brandon@oconnordetroit.com
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The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 706
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 1:39 pm: | |
We should ALL pool our monies together and buy the property, open a bar-slash-restaurant
and put our money in the bank next door. |
Raggedclaws
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Username: Raggedclaws
Post Number: 90
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 1:40 pm: | |
Incredibly overpriced. Even including the liquor license.
Like Casa De Espana also on Michigan Ave. Maybe if the $$ came down to earth on some of these places, there'd be a rebirth. Or at least the hope of one. |
The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 713
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 2:32 pm: | |
Since this thread is about
'Detroit is a city of bars'......
I used to, when I worked downtown, used to go over to Leandies to cash my check, eat liver & onions and drink Heinekens. Nick & Paul took care of you...and Maria....oh MAN could she ever cook.
I couldnt go into Lindell's because of a waitress that worked there. She claims that I broke her heart.
Andre had instructions to not allow me on the premises. They did me a favor. |
Gnome
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Username: Gnome
Post Number: 322
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 2:49 pm: | |
The_Ed, as a Ma Bell guy bet you pounded a few at Nick's Gaslight. It's been awhile since I was there but I see its back open ... or at least it looked open last week.
Personally, I'm a Tom's Tavern fan. I like the range of people who walk through the door and the stories, the history, the whole thing. It's funky but interesting. |
The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 717
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:12 pm: | |
Actually, Gnome, I have only been to Nick's Gaslight once for a birthday party. I frequented Leandies from 1973 to 1981. I left the downtown area in 1981. My job finally transferred me to Highland Park to the Oakman Building where the Art department was located. Now I work in Troy on Crooks.
I've never been to Tom's Tavern. Wasn't that on 7 Mile @ Wyoming?
I remember a little tavern-like establishment leaning there..... |
Johnlodge
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Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 3400
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:26 pm: | |
Woo, the day of racist terror is over.
My favorite Detroit bars:
Lager House
Garden Bowl
Cliff Bell's
Old Miami
Belmont (if Hamtramck is allowed) |
Gnome
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Username: Gnome
Post Number: 326
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:28 pm: | |
Tom's is still there, at least it was last week. It leans a little on the outside, but inside is like a esher print. Nice thing, you don't need to drink much for the walls to tilt sideways.
The floor, and the bar, run downhill at about 22 degrees. The result of a stolen load of City-owned concrete in the 1940s. It was an improvement over the wood boards, but it didn't turn out very smooth. That's what happens when you combine stolen concrete and a bunch of drunks working it.
You need to stop in there sometime. I've never known anyone who didn't walk in without making at least one new friend. All sorts of people, ...bums and millionares, sport stars and business tycoons, punks and greasers, bikers and priests. Black, white, old, young, rich and poor.
Expand your mind and go to Tom's ... heck, it's in your neighborhood. |
Johnlodge
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Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 3401
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:30 pm: | |
Woo, the day of racist terror is over.
My favorite Detroit bars:
Lager House
Garden Bowl
Cliff Bell's
Old Miami
Belmont (if Hamtramck is allowed) |
Gistok
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Username: Gistok
Post Number: 5674
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:32 pm: | |
Agreed Johnlodge... but not forgotten are the words of Cyber_hick and Charlevoix_hag... birds of a feather... |
Fury13
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Username: Fury13
Post Number: 3009
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:33 pm: | |
A few of my favorites:
Arcade
Cliff Bell's
Elwood
Nemo's
Honest John's
Bronx
Your Place Lounge
Cadieux Cafe
Tap Room
Apex
(Message edited by Fury13 on November 06, 2007) |
Willmess01
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Username: Willmess01
Post Number: 31
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:01 pm: | |
I used to favor Billeo's on Kelly and the Holbrook Cafe in Hamtramck.
The Cadieux Cafe and Harry's are a couple of my new favs! I really enjoy having different brews from all over the world. The CC. has been great at offering that. |
Mikie
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Username: Mikie
Post Number: 107
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:08 pm: | |
I really liked my neighborhood bars, most of them are still there and going strong. The top 3
Stempiens Sidestreet lounge
Abicks
Minock's Lounge |
Ravine
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Username: Ravine
Post Number: 1552
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:09 pm: | |
Circa 1890 Bar, on Cass Avenue, WSU campus. In the late 70's, a great place to go for a long night of hanging around. Get a pitcher of beer, and some popcorn, from the bartender. Sit around with your pals, talking, flirting, and getting sloshed. Stumble home to your tiny, but wonderfully steam-heated, studio apartment on Third or Fourth.
People said it was a gay bar. Maybe so. Nobody gave a damn.
It's still there, I believe. |
Rsa
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Username: Rsa
Post Number: 1319
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:13 pm: | |
oh yeah, still there ravine. it's primarily a law student hang out now. i believe the owner even donated some money for the new law school extension... |
Johnlodge
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Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 3403
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:16 pm: | |
Third Street Saloon was a fun place. Too bad it's gone. |
Norwalk
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Username: Norwalk
Post Number: 136
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:18 pm: | |
Elimar,The bar in Hamtramck your thinking of was the Adams Bar. It was torn down about a year and a half ago to make room for the Caniff Electric Expansion. I used to love those Pink Neon spider webs in the window. It was also known for its "Think Spring" sign above the window. |
Passion
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Username: Passion
Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:36 pm: | |
Bar (with liquor license) and AND Bank for sale located at 3401 and 3415 Michigan Ave. All for the low low price of only $350,000- negotiable!
WOW, what a great deal Brandon - NOT! |
Fury13
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Username: Fury13
Post Number: 3033
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:39 pm: | |
Property/business owners who are selling their holdings need to wake up and realize that they're going to be lucky to sell for what they have invested in their places. They may even end up taking a loss, if they need to sell right now. That's the market. |
Elimarr
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Username: Elimarr
Post Number: 30
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 5:13 pm: | |
Thanks Norwalk:
Glad you weren't confused that I said it was on Conant, meaning to say Caniff...but it's not like a zillion bars have a (pink!) spiderweb, right? That was a classic! Never did go in there, since I generally went to places like Hamtramck Pub (across the street a ways) to hear live music with my beverage. |
Reddog289
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Username: Reddog289
Post Number: 56
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 3:21 am: | |
went to alot of bars in the mid 90,s. my fav was spoilers on greenfield&warren, good times bad times. now it has arabic writing on it, also krazy louies, hurry inn, and shooters? lots of bars in warrendale. a few have gone but there still a good number. |
Gsgeorge
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Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 309
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 9:13 am: | |
Brandon, $350,000 seems high. How about $3.50? |
Mtm
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Username: Mtm
Post Number: 260
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:03 am: | |
As a former MI-Bell worker, I loved Lindell because, when working second shift, it was the ONLY place to get food (other than chicken-flavored "soup" and Cheetos from the vending machines). Loved the burgers with the grilled onions and the side-server with all the fixings. Also loved Johnny and Andre - sorry The-Ed - and they were friends. I remember many late nights sloshing through the snow to get across the street to bring back dinner for our crew.
(Message edited by mtm on November 07, 2007) |
Brandon48202
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Username: Brandon48202
Post Number: 196
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:12 am: | |
Ha Ha Ha very funny. Show me a lower priced bar (business and real estate). |
Bobj
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Username: Bobj
Post Number: 2667
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:18 am: | |
bars are a tough business to be - has to be a labor of love |
The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 740
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 12:40 pm: | |
The Oak Garden on Oakman @ Rosa Parks was a great place to have lunch: a beer, a burger and a bowl of chili was all you'd need. |
Gnome
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Username: Gnome
Post Number: 333
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 12:44 pm: | |
Brandon, what are the comps that justify the $350K price? And where is the listing? |
Zxzm
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Username: Zxzm
Post Number: 60
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 12:56 pm: | |
I like the Northern Lights Lounge on Baltimore near the train station. They have shuffleboard! |
Dhugger
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Username: Dhugger
Post Number: 225
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:29 pm: | |
Anchor Bar on 4th street. Used to pop over there when I worked afternoons & nights while working at the Detroit News. (Until the strike kicked me to the curb in the 90's)
I was the third generation of my family who frequented the place during work hours. My dad, my uncle & me. Of course all we did was grab some lunch 
Always said when you saw your photo above the bar you knew you were DEAD. The Anchor Wall of fame. |
Realitycheck
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Username: Realitycheck
Post Number: 495
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:47 pm: | |
quote:Anchor Bar on 4th street. Actually, it's on Fort Street -- where Vaughn Derderian relocated his dad Leo's legendary bar about 2 blocks from Lafayette.
But hey Dhugger, as a fellow ex-Newser who also grabbed "lunch" at each location, I know it's easy to mix up Fourth + Fort.
WDIV has a page on The Anchor as one of "Detroit's hidden gems." |
Dhugger
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Username: Dhugger
Post Number: 229
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:52 pm: | |
Ooops good catch REALITYCHECK.
We used to have our union meetings in the back room. A little bit of union business mixed with a tad bit of drinking. |
Realitycheck
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Username: Realitycheck
Post Number: 497
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:13 am: | |
quote:bit of union business mixed with a tad bit of drinking . . . with a Tom Petty soundtrack:
In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
I'll stand my ground and I won't back down
Ah yes, I remember it well . . .
. . . from [deep breath] inside Frank ('Darth') Vega's fortress of evil.
Uh-oh, I'm in B-I-G trouble now . . . from Dhugger and Redfordette, among others. |
Dhugger
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Username: Dhugger
Post Number: 230
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:07 am: | |
Realitycheck: does this mean you were inside while Dhugger & Redfordette stood outside?
We both ate at the Anchor Bar it seems. I take it your photo is not above the bar if you are writing this so you survived the nasty dispute in the late 90's. |
Thecarl
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Username: Thecarl
Post Number: 1116
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
anchor bar! that reminds me of the hallowed ground in buffalo, new york - the anchor bar - where buffalo-style chicken wings were invented. i once made the pilgrimage. they will not serve you buffalo wings; you must ask for *chicken* wings.
who in detroit has the best buffalo wings? |
Alfie1a
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Username: Alfie1a
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:32 pm: | |
who in detroit has the best buffalo wings?
Sweetwater Tavern on the corner of Congress and Brush.. The ribs are really good too along with most other things on the menu, all of which is very reasonably priced. Skip the meatloaf. lol They also run shuttles to and fro all the downtown sports venues. On sunday mornings (during football season), they serve a fine breakfast, then you can take the shuttle to the game. Great ambience to go along with a very nice staff. That building has a long and interesting history. |
Jazzstage
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Username: Jazzstage
Post Number: 159
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:39 pm: | |
I see a few votes for Cliff Bells here. Some of you might want to boost their rating. The link below goes to a poll of favorite jazz bars. Cliff's is not winning right now.
You can also vote for any of the others.
http://jazzstageproductions.co m/ |
Mikeg
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Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 1319
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 9:43 pm: | |
quote:Or was there more than one Brass Rail?
Here is a 1948 advertisement that lists three Brass Rail locations:
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Oldredfordette
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Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 3425
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 10:00 pm: | |
DHUGGER WHO ARE YOU???????
Hmmm Realitycheck, I don't have much patience for scabs. I hope you got one of the "special" burgers at least once in the Anchor.
The Sweetwater also has insanely delicious Bloody Marys. |
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