  Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 643 Registered: 11-2005 |
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2007 1205/REG/71205004/1018/-/-/hou se-passes-smoking-ban | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 3188 Registered: 06-2004 |
No more public smaking?•• What will we do? | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1670 Registered: 01-2006 |
All of this hysteria about second-hand this and second-hand that is smaking me sick. But they say that where there's smake, there's fear. Sorry. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 5369 Registered: 10-2003 |
First smaking.... Whats next? No more public punching?! (Message edited by Detroit_stylin on December 05, 2007) | ||
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 645 Registered: 11-2005 |
I hate when I do that I can't believe I hit A its on the complete opposite side of the board. Damn SMAKING. LOL Sorry bout that, I wish I could edit title. | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 3192 Registered: 10-2003 |
second hand smaking is dangerous | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 1199 Registered: 04-2005 |
smaking has been proven to be a leading cause of statistics | ||
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 646 Registered: 11-2005 |
I am never gonna hear the end of this one I have a feeling. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 654 Registered: 02-2007 |
Thankfully, I quit smaking about 4 years ago. Sorry Urb hate to break the chain..  | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 5371 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yep Urban we will see to it...lol | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 993 Registered: 09-2007 |
LOL! Why would someone want to ban smaking? Smaking is like the most enjoyable thing to do in life. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 3191 Registered: 06-2004 |
betcha Batty doesn't approve of smaking he won't like it he hates everything | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 570 Registered: 02-2006 |
Remember, I taught your pimp how to SMAK! <313> | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 771 Registered: 10-2003 |
I know all of you are just smaking a point about smaking, but for god's smake, can't we all just get along? (Message edited by matt the Deuce on December 05, 2007) | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 982 Registered: 11-2003 |
I'm not really all that concerned about breathing it in, but I hate having my clothes smell like smake. I'm reminded of Steve Martin's old bit about how he responds if someone asks him if he minds if they smake. "No, do you mind if I fart?" | ||
Lifeinmontage Member Username: Lifeinmontage Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2007 |
I hate to break the chain, but I think this is an important post to talk about. For those that care about this issue, you should contact your senator and inform them of your thoughts as a constituent. I got a pleasant little response from Nancy Cassis (or at least her assistant). Go here http://senate.michigan.gov/ and click on "Find Your Senator" on the left. No matter what your belief on this bill, I think we can all agree that smaking is here to stay. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1674 Registered: 01-2006 |
O.K., now; Curtain Down. It was merely an innocent typo, on Urb's part, although goddam, the one really is all the way across the keyboard from the other. But then, maybe the past tense of smake is smoke. My head is starting to hurt. | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 772 Registered: 10-2003 |
Well, this one's got legs. Don't worry Urban - this could put you in the legend category - a keystroke of genius. If we could all be so lucky. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 5373 Registered: 10-2003 |
Matt you smake an excellent point... | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1677 Registered: 01-2006 |
Genius, my ass. It's all just smake & mirrors. | ||
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 647 Registered: 11-2005 |
I really smaked myself in the face on this one, I wish I decided not to smake it there. ;') | ||
Belleislerunner Member Username: Belleislerunner Post Number: 390 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hopefully it passes the Senate and is signed by Jennifer. Failing to do so will only continue to build upon Michigan's reputation to outsiders as a fat, dirty, smelly (smoking) state in comparison to the smoke free likes of San Fran, New York and DC. | ||
Deandub11 Member Username: Deandub11 Post Number: 180 Registered: 05-2006 |
Am I the only one who believes these smoking bans are ridiculously paternalistic as well as completely anti-liberty and free market. Can't the market dictate this change? Am I in communist Russia? I'd rather not smell like smoke after leaving the bar as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I want the Michigan legislature telling me that I can't smoke in a private entity if I want to and that entity sanctions it. | ||
Crystal Member Username: Crystal Post Number: 82 Registered: 05-2007 |
I am almost always on the side of liberty and a free market. But in this case I think public health trumps those freedoms. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1678 Registered: 01-2006 |
But seriously. I am a fairly heavy smoker. (Hand-rolled {tobacco} cigarettes during the workday; tobacco pipe at home in the evening.) Also, I truly do not like for the government (or anyone else, for that matter) to attempt to force me, through legislation or any other means, to modify my behavior. BUT, I think it is very uncivil, and deeply rude, to light up in a close, indoor area where there are others present. I do not do it, regardless of whether it is prohibited, or not, so ironically enough, the whole thing is a non-issue, for me. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 988 Registered: 11-2006 |
I smake, therefore I am. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 994 Registered: 09-2007 |
I agree Ravine and Crystal. Although the government should not force anyone to do something, there will always be an issue to that right for you when you're affecting someone else's rights (or health for instance). | ||
Deandub11 Member Username: Deandub11 Post Number: 181 Registered: 05-2006 |
The whole point is that if enough people stop going to bars that allow smoking inside, the bars will be forced to either change their policies or go out of business. It's pretty simple. The market will dictate. | ||
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 648 Registered: 11-2005 |
So I wonder what if this ban could start up some (smoking) blind pigs. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1930 Registered: 12-2005 |
Say it ain't so!  | ||
The_ed Member Username: The_ed Post Number: 1305 Registered: 10-2007 |
I have been trying to quit smaking for a few months now. I bought some licorice sticks recently----actual sticks from the bush. So far so good. I'm not smaking as much as I used to. There's an oral fixation there that needs to be taken care of. "Chew sticks have also been found as a safe and effective way to help Quit Smaking. Natives of the West Indies like to chew on licorice sticks or on sugar cane stalks. Inspired by this, one doctor recommended that his patients chew licorice sticks to break the smaking habit. The idea has apparently been very successful. Ex-smakers like having something to chew on or hold in their mouths. The licorice stick is a safe substitute for a cigarette." http://www.houseofnubian.com/I BS/SimpleCat/Shelf/ASP/Hierarc hy/04/Dir/PRICEDESC.html | ||
The_ed Member Username: The_ed Post Number: 1306 Registered: 10-2007 |
My wife and I went to the Magic Bag Cafe this past summer to see the sick-and-twisted animation festival and we couldn't believe the amount of smoke in the air. It was like everyone in there smoked. I didn't have to light up at all, because of all the second-hand smoke. The sound was so loud you could hardly hear and the smoke was so thick...if someone lit up a joint, you wouldn't know where it was coming from. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 657 Registered: 04-2006 |
i wish they would just ban smaking... but allow restaurants to pay a smaking fee if they want to allow smaking... if a bar feels that it is SO important to it's business, then they can pay the fee and allow smaking... but they would have to install big sticker on the front door saying "SMAKING IS ALLOWED IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT" | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 429 Registered: 08-2007 |
So, you can go into a bar and wreck your liver, but you better not smake while doing it. jeeze, how much more of this Nanny-State crap will we put up with? The Legislature loves to push through these Red-Herrings through their Committees; meanwhile, the real problems in this state go un-solved. This stupid bill is just like the dove-hunting ... enrage the masses inorder to keep our eyes off our real problems. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 4021 Registered: 10-2003 |
I don't understand telling business owners that they can't allow a legal activity such as smaking in their establishments. If the demand for non-smaking places is so high, people should open smak free establishments to respond to the market. If smaking is deemed so detrimental to society you must force non-smaking rules on people's private establishments, then maybe smaking should just be made illegal altogether. | ||
Sciencefair Member Username: Sciencefair Post Number: 30 Registered: 10-2007 |
It's not specifically for the restaurant/bar patrons, but for the health of the staff who work in that environment on a daily/nightly basis. | ||
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge Post Number: 378 Registered: 08-2006 |
quote: I like this idea. Brings all the excitement of the Purple Gang era back to Detroit. ps - smaking sucks! | ||
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm Post Number: 1536 Registered: 02-2005 |
If they ban snaking, there will be a lot of clogged drains. | ||
Miketoronto Member Username: Miketoronto Post Number: 749 Registered: 07-2004 |
Its about time you guys put in the smoking ban. I still remember going to a Detroit Club and the smoke was just bad bad bad. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 2357 Registered: 01-2005 |
The right to free speech does not include shouting "smake" in a crowded theatre. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 656 Registered: 02-2007 |
Having quit 4 years ago. I didn't want to be that ex-smoker that whined every time someone lit up, or avoided certain gatherings because of smokers. Recently I worked with a guy that smoked, after 8 hours of breathing it second hand. I learned two things that day, can't deal with cigarette smoke anymore, and I'll definitely never smoke again. As much as I'm all for freedoms, I'm glad they are passing this. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 985 Registered: 11-2003 |
Isn't smaking something you do/use on a snape hunt? It sounds awfully familiar. For some reason I can recall running around at camp as a child making smaking noises and chasing something called a snape. Or was it called a snope? | ||
The_ed Member Username: The_ed Post Number: 1310 Registered: 10-2007 |
Is it logical to yell "SMAKE" in a crowded firehouse? | ||
Raggedclaws Member Username: Raggedclaws Post Number: 103 Registered: 08-2006 |
Further evidence that we are becoming a nation of pussies. No smoking in public buildings makes sense. In bars & restaurants - pandering to those who are not smart enough to seek out non-smoking (by choice) establishments. How 'bout the State just outlaw the sale, possession, and use of ciggies ? Anything less is insincere. I make my decisions regarding second-hand smoke like an adult would. How about you ? Oh, and the 'smake' jokes stopped being funny about 25 posts ago. | ||
Eriedearie Member Username: Eriedearie Post Number: 314 Registered: 08-2007 |
Urban - I get the feeling you will NEVER live down your typo! I started reading this thread last night before bed and I laughed at the comments till I had tears. You guys are so funny. On a different thread I read something about how we could recognize DetroitYes! members out in public. Someone came up with an idea for t-shirts. I propose if that comes about the saying on the t-shirt should be "No Smaking". That way we'll recognize one another right away. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9984 Registered: 10-2003 |
Good. No more smaking should make it easier to breathe in nightclubs. So put that in your pipe and smak it. | ||
Diehard Member Username: Diehard Post Number: 215 Registered: 03-2005 |
Save your breath (no pun intended?). The best, most intelligent debate on this issue was done a few days back on fark.com. It's a long one, but every possible point that could be made is here: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/far k/comments.pl?IDLink=3229085 btw, anyone know if this includes the casinos? I was talking with some folks at the office and they said they thought there was an exception for them. Don't know why though. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 4027 Registered: 10-2003 |
There is in Las Vegas. Used to be you could smoke just about anywhere in vegas. Now you can only smoke in the Casinos. NOT the Casino malls or restaurants, though. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 8137 Registered: 11-2006 |
You are right Lilpup, I don't like smoking. But I don't like government banning individual rights even more. | ||
Hooha Member Username: Hooha Post Number: 152 Registered: 06-2005 |
Does anybody have a problem with the state creating a set amount of smoking licenses that bars can acquire for a fee? Smokers have bars, non-smokers have bars, cash-strapped state gets money. Everybody wins. This topic came up a while ago, and I'll repeat now what I said then. Realistically, smoking in bars is on the way out... it's just a matter of when. If you're a smoker, and you want to smoke in bars, your best bet is to call your state senator and demand that they create smoking licences. Simply asking them to vote no on this bill is just delaying the inevitable. | ||
Alan55 Member Username: Alan55 Post Number: 842 Registered: 09-2005 |
I can see banning smaking cigars and cigarettes, but what about those professorial types who like smaking a pope? | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 8144 Registered: 11-2006 |
Licenses?? More regulation?? More tax dollars for something that the private sector should be allowed to take care of? | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 119 Registered: 08-2007 |
it,s just jenny thinking she,s still in canada. the casinos will be glad they dumped a ton of cash here. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 435 Registered: 08-2007 |
What sourpuss fixed the spelling in the title ?... boo hiss | ||
The_ed Member Username: The_ed Post Number: 1320 Registered: 10-2007 |
Alan55 "I can see banning smaking cigars and cigarettes, but what about those professorial types who like smaking a pope?" Now, you see....? This is just the thing that has gotten a lot of priests in trouble. It all started with the pope! What's next?: flogging the bishop? | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 3218 Registered: 11-2003 |
These decisions are made in smake filled back rooms | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 6861 Registered: 02-2004 |
YAY! No more cancer sticks in most public buildings in Michigan. |
