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Detroitrise
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.citytowninfo.com/pl aces/michigan/eastpointe

http://www.citytowninfo.com/pl aces/michigan/ferndale
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Dissolvedgirl3
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitrise: I understand your point. Statistically, the median FAMILY income in Eastpointe is about $3000 more than that of Ferndale. BUT, there are 10% more singles in Ferndale than in Eastpointe. That means more people in Ferndale than in Eastpointe are making that amount alone. Just food for thought...
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Crawford
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I don't think Eastpointe has a real downtown. The closest thing would be the strip mall at Gratiot/9 Mile.

That general area is sort of a pseudo-downtown, but it is not at all walkable or comparable to Ferndale.
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Mcp001
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But they "found" $5million for a splashy "new" city hall.

That's bound to bring in new businesses...
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Crumbled_pavement
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Video: http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/14734749/detail.html
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Citylover
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I get the impression that the reporter might have thought the cops over reacted...........as for the shit brained idiot that was "concerned" het the polce over reacted......open the fucking door and pay for the food moron.......

I would much rather live where the cops are gonna react like this then somewhere with a " downtown"..... hooray for the eastpointe cops.
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Scooter2k7
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why is everyone calling them East Detroit. There is no city called East Detroit. They have been called Eastpointe for 15 years now. Lets call them Halfway or Erin Township too.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^^^Well aren't you cranky tonight?
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Rfban
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 8:32 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The day Eastpointe changes its name back, is the day we have sustainability and pride within our region.

-RB
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I agree with RB. Change it back to Halfway and change 9 Mile Road back to Halfway Avenue.
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Mauser765
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"Eastpointe" - lets think about that name. They wanted to disassociate with Detroit because its so bad. Thats crappy. Then - they want to associate with the Grosse Pointes, because they are so wonderful. Thats crappy. They were called "east" Detroit, well, because they are geographically on the eastern end of the City. Now they are "East" Pointe. They are not only NOT a "pointe", but they are also geographically WEST of the Pointes.

Again, try not to drink the water in that city. Something over there is seriously affecting IQ levels in the residents and city folks.
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Mcp001
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was about 20 years ago, Mauser.
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Rfban
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually I think it was only about a decade ago or so, maybe early 90's.
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Mcp001
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Again, about 20 years ago.

My how time flies.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whatever. The fact is that Eastpointe changed their name from East Detroit.
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Tigers2005
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1992.
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Detroitrise
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And that's 15 year Mcp.
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Mcp001
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your "no-prize" in the the mail, Detroitrise.
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Steelworker
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Lot of ties for me in eastpointe. I did K-12 in East Detroit schools. My grandma and my mother both graduated from east detroit high. I agree it is better than south warren and roseville. But worse than st claire shores, north warren, and the pointes. And yes there is white flight there now. Most of my family from eastpointe and most of my friends from high school their parents have moved away to the motherland (hall rd. corridor).

I moved west to the O.C. My father was one of the people who voted to change the name of the city, when they did it the value of his house immediately went up. Cops are very aggressive and never allow a house party without breaking it up with a quickness. They have had problems with racist cops aswell they were investigated by FBI a few times. Last time i remember was over a case of harassing a (black) boy who was riding his bicycle through eastpointe. They took his bike from him and told him to go home (north 10mile, east gratiot). My senior year we had a huge race riot in school that was breifly on the news, our HS was on lockdown for a month.(only my senior 1997 year did we finally start to see more african american families moving to eastpointe).
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Rfban
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At this point in time, what I want to know is how do the citizens feel about the name change? Does the younger generation like or dislike the change? And, did the city change it because of insurance purposes?
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Steelworker
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Lot of ties for me in eastpointe. I did K-12 in East Detroit schools. My grandma and my mother both graduated from east detroit high. I agree it is better than south warren and roseville. But worse than st claire shores, north warren, and the pointes. And yes there is white flight there now. Most of my family from eastpointe and most of my friends from high school their parents have moved away to the motherland (hall rd. corridor).

I moved west to the O.C. My father was one of the people who voted to change the name of the city, when they did it the value of his house immediately went up. Cops are very aggressive and never allow a house party without breaking it up with a quickness. They have had problems with racist cops aswell they were investigated by FBI a few times. Last time i remember was over a case of harassing a (black) boy who was riding his bicycle through eastpointe. They took his bike from him and told him to go home (north 10mile, east gratiot). My senior year we had a huge race riot in school that was breifly on the news, our HS was on lockdown for a month.(only my senior 1997 year did we finally start to see more african american families moving to eastpointe).
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Mcp001
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From the ones I've spoken to:

The older ones still refer to it as East Detroit.

The newer ones will refer to it as Eastpointe.

And from what I was told, the city didn't change it, a resident did. He put the thing on the ballot three times. It was approved on the third-go around.

The rationale wasn't as much as "insurance" reasons, as to being "confused" in any way with Detroit.
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Rfban
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How does a name make property values go up? Seems superficial to me—I guess it is what it is. Did those values temporarily go up or have they stayed consistent?
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Twenty years ago when we moved to East Detroit, we had trouble convincing my husband's employer (State of Michigan) to stop taking out the 3% Detroit income tax and drop it to 1.5%. They insisted we were still in Detroit. We even had mail eventually make it to us with "East" crossed out and the zip code changed to 48201 instead of 48021. I didn't (and still don't) care for the name change, but experienced first hand the confusion, especially when television news reporters would end a story they were covering on the east side of Detroit by saying, "From east Detroit . . ."
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Fury13
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They should have changed the name to Eastwood, after the old amusement park at 8 Mile and Gratiot. That name would make more sense.
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I don't like the name East Detroit. The city is NORTH of Detroit, and in a different county. Now, Harper Woods-Eastpointe could make sense for that.
Likewise, the Grosse Pointes are in a different county as well.
Guess Warren Heights wasn't fancy enough.
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The new name for East Detroit is a nice example of what happens when extremists hit the polls and others think its too laughable to show up.
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Danny
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Eastpointe today still remains a bedroom sized community with cookie cutter brick ranches and wood frame homes everywhere. During the past 10 years Eastpointe gained 5% blacks. Most of them started to occupy the homes north of E. 8 Mile Rd. from Gratiot to Beaconsfield St.

Take a look of the factual data from East Detroit Public Schools. The purple color represents white student population while the blue color represents the black student population:

Bellview Elementary








12% black

77% white

Cresentwood Elemantary








23% black

70% white




East Detroit High School





27% black

67% white





Forest Park Elementary






11% black

82% white




Katner Elementary





30% black

65% white




Kellwood Althernatine High School





22%black

68% white





Kelly Middle School





34% black

62% white





Oakwood Elementary





19% black

73% white





Pleasantview Elementary






42% black

52% white





Roosevelt Elementary





7% black

87% white





Warrendale Elementary





12% black

73% white


Black folks who occupy the Eastpointe neighborhoods north of E. 8 Mile Rd. from Gratiot to Beaconsfield St tend to sent their students to Pleasantview and Katner Elementary more the any other Eastpointe schools because those elementary schools show little signs of black occupants further north of E. 9 Mile Rd. East Detroit High gained a explosion of black students since their parents occupy the southern part of Eastpointe neighborhoods. The factual data also shows that more white student population has decreased in the last 10 years, more in other East Detroit Public Schools due to increase of black students. This proves my urban theory. Most White folks don't want to live in a community that has up to 10 to 20 black folks or any other ethnic folks per block. Some of them think that when black folks move next door to them, their property values will decrease. Oh Well! they might as well sell their cookie cutter home to a black family and move on. This is one the prime symptoms of White flight in the inner ring suburbs. White flight has begun in Eastpointe and more black folks are moving to those neighborhoods. My perjection is that by the year 2010 the black population in Eastpointe will increase to 15%. Pleasantview Elementary will be over 50% black by the year 2009 and Katner Elementary will be over 50% black by over by the year 2010. Kelly Middle School will be over 50% black by they year 2010 and East Detroit High School will have sudden black student population explosion up to 57% by the year 2010. By the year 2030 Eastpointe's black population will be over 60% and the rest of East Detroit Public Schools will have over 85% black.
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"Most White folks don't want to live in a community that has up to 10 to 20 black folks or any other ethnic folks per block."

Where did you get that data, Danny?
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quote:

Where did you get that data, Danny?



Rectal extraction.
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Detroitrise
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He pulled it out of his butt crack?
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Is your post count not high enough, Detroitrise? That's the only reason I can think of for rewording the last post in the thread, adding a question mark, and posting it.
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Mcp001
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Interesting hypothesis, Danny.

But dated/flawed.

I have it on good authority that Kantner Elementary is no longer used as a grade school.

Also, what do you think will happen to those moving back into the inner-ring suburbs with the state economy in the slump that it is currently in along with the sub-prime fiasco.

Those families (at least those staying in Michigan, anyway) are going to move where it is affordable and already established.

Eastpointe fits the bill.
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I dont really care when they renamed the city, my only point was that they chose a stupid name for stupid reasons.
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Fury13
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So many names over the years... Erin Township, Halfway, East Detroit, Eastpointe... identity problem, maybe?

The housing stock in Eastpointe is pretty decent in most neighborhoods, though. There are many nice 1920s colonials and Tudors, as well as brick '40s-'50s Cape Cods and '50s ranches...
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Scooter2k7...

When someone on this thread said "I did k-12 in East Detroit"... they are referring to the School District name...

Eastpointe = City Name
East Detroit = School District name

Got it?
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Mauser765
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Too expensive to change the district name.

BTW - East Detroit High has a kick ass football coach, look for some good stuff from those kids this year. Making the Grosse Pointe North kids nervous as all get out
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Wen I went to EDHS. We sucked so bad at football. They even recruited an assistant coach from U of West Virgina, we were larger than most school but sucked. They debated changing the school district name but they decided not to because at the time they felt it was better for the alumni. Old school system and the HS is rather old and nice in the old building, the old auditorium is decent aswell. Not common any more to have a 3 story high school being built. Interesting they are closing schools there but they project a growing child population.
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quote:

BTW - East Detroit High has a kick ass football coach, look for some good stuff from those kids this year. Making the Grosse Pointe North kids nervous as all get out



Please tell me you were joking. Football season has been over for two weeks (more if you didn't make any playoffs) and East Detroit went 0-9.

Did you mean basketball?
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Mauser765
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oops - my bad Dds. Yes BBall. And yes, I always pull for underdogs.

I do like EDetroits football coach tho. He barks like a drill sargent. Guess that didnt end up being terribly effective.
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The Villa restaurant and Ricks game room come to mind when I think of Eastpointe. Anyone remember hanging out at Ricks game room. I think its a pool hall now.
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I remember $1 movies at the old Eastwood Theatre. There are still a couple of nice little family-style restaurants along Gratiot that serve a good breakfast. Best of all, Eastpointe seems to have a decent sign ordinance. The visual pollution quotient goes way up when you cross over 10 Mile into Roseville.
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The Villa restaurant and Ricks game room come to mind when I think of Eastpointe. Anyone remember hanging out at Ricks game room. I think its a pool hall now.
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Where exactly was the Eastwood theatre and amusement park? Sorry about the double post.
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Fury13
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The Eastwood Theatre became the Wired Frog teen hangout. The building is on Gratiot, west side, north of 8 Mile. The Eastwood Park amusement park was right on the northeast corner of 8 Mile and Gratiot. It closed in the '50s.
http://www.waterwinterwonderla nd.com/amuse.asp?id=304&type=2
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Danny
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Eastpointe High School name change would have been nice. Or what about Eastpointe Public Schools.

The word "east DETROIT PUBLIC SCHOOLS" would make white folks in Eastpointe feel discourage.
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As I understood it, the name change was for the city only.

The school board had the option to change their name as well, but chose not to.
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Good for the school board.

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