  Flyingj Member Username: Flyingj Post Number: 51 Registered: 08-2006 |
Shotguns @ Sambo's? http://www.dailybulletin.com/b reakingnews/ci_7584003 | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 1042 Registered: 11-2005 |
Prolly as bad as it is now. No way you'd ever get me living there. I'll stick to Detroit. On a serious note, there is a possible hole in this woman's story: Jack in the Box in Michigan? Uh, those are on only the West Coast. I've certainly never seen one here. Maybe they were here 30 years ago, but I dunno. ... | ||
Gazhekwe Member Username: Gazhekwe Post Number: 1033 Registered: 08-2007 |
Yes, we definitely had Jack in the Box in the 70s. There was one on Grand River east of Southfield. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1919 Registered: 12-2005 |
Coolidge between Woodward and 13 mile, near Beaumont. "there were giants in those days" | ||
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik Post Number: 358 Registered: 01-2007 |
Yes, Jack in the Box was here 30 years ago. The Thrifty Flowers store on the corner of 12 Mile & Schoenherr was a Jack in the Box 30+ years ago. Ookpik | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1417 Registered: 12-2003 |
Oh how well I remember that Royal Oak Jack in the Box. Of COURSE we had that chain in Michigan. That 13 Mile one only came down a few years ago. | ||
Flyingj Member Username: Flyingj Post Number: 52 Registered: 08-2006 |
To say San Berdoo was safer than Pontiac, that's sayin' quite a lot... As for JITB, the stores back then were all architect Russell Forester's "boxes", which if you find one today send it to http://www.notfoolinganybody.c om http://www.sandiego-online.com /media/San-Diego-Magazine/May- 1997/Images-from-an-Unauthoriz ed-Autobiography/ | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 3310 Registered: 02-2004 |
I actually liked their food, but I recall one of the first deaths by cheeseburger was a JITB burger. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 11049 Registered: 12-2003 |
Jack in the Box was nationwide until a food poisoning event largely shut 'em down. I was more amazed to see 'em out west! In 1989-90, my young cousin was a single mom in an apartment building just west of Pontiac High School. There was open warfare in the streets some nights, and once I was around when it went INTO her building. She met a man who took her away from all that, they built quite a life. I'll never forget how she lived for that first year of her first daughter's life...I once got pulled over by a Pontiac cop dashing to her aid early one morning on Woodward, when I lived at 13 and Greenfield. I told him where I was going and why, and he immediately jumped in his cruiser and gave me an escort. No ticket. No shit. That was an amazing Pontiac morning... | ||
The_ed Member Username: The_ed Post Number: 1273 Registered: 10-2007 |
"I actually liked their food, but I recall one of the first deaths by cheeseburger was a JITB burger." Yep, the dreaded E-Coli....  | ||
Ptero Member Username: Ptero Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2005 |
There was a JITB on Perry in Pontiac in the 80's... | ||
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni Post Number: 816 Registered: 05-2007 |
There was a JIB on the south side of 8 Mile near Lahser. (Message edited by vetalalumni on November 29, 2007) | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 3928 Registered: 12-2005 |
Around 1974 in Pontiac a bullet came through our wall, ricocheted off the ceiling and went into the other wall. Not sure whether it made it through into the next apartment. No injuries. We moved out the next day. I remember a Jack In The Box southeast of Oakland Mall around 1975. Never cared much for it but it stayed open late for night shift workers. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 898 Registered: 09-2007 |
There was a Jack in the Box on Mack and Chene as well. | ||
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida Post Number: 1050 Registered: 02-2007 |
14 and John R. Jack in the Box I worked next door at ABL electronics and dated the manager-chick there.=) I remember they were owned by Ralston-Purina. There you go. Purina People Chow. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 3929 Registered: 12-2005 |
Yeah, 14 Mile and John R. That was the one I remembered by Oakland Mall. I worked for Detronix near there. They later moved to Troy and had their own gun incident a few years ago. As I recall, someone just casually brought a gun to work. No shots fired. | ||
Missnmich Member Username: Missnmich Post Number: 629 Registered: 11-2004 |
Pontiac had the reputation of being rough in the 70s, but nothing compared to crack cocaine days. My high school was in the same league as the Pontiac schools, and I never recall being afraid to go to games in Pontiac. Some times memories get inflated ... | ||
Ltrain Member Username: Ltrain Post Number: 122 Registered: 10-2003 |
Best thing about that article? Nothing like "Pontiac, Mich. a suburb of Detroit where all criminals in Pontiac honed their killing skills....." Or something like that. | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 413 Registered: 04-2006 |
^The fact that he followed that comment with "on a serious note..." tells me he was probably joking. | ||
Silverbeauty Member Username: Silverbeauty Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2005 |
Orchard Lake Road and 12 Mile. | ||
Softailrider Member Username: Softailrider Post Number: 94 Registered: 02-2007 |
There are certain areas of Pontiac where the abandonment and decay ALMOST mirrors Detroit. | ||
Yaktown Member Username: Yaktown Post Number: 271 Registered: 02-2006 |
Where was the Sambo's restaurant in Pontiac? I wonder if the building is still standing and what is in its place now. Also, there is a flower shop (or used to be anyway) on Lahser ne of the I-696 overpass. My GF claims it used to be a JitB many moons ago. Can anyone confirm? | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 297 Registered: 06-2007 |
Pontiacs an interesting place.Much the south side is pretty gritty, with it's urban decay. Paddock street is rough. Really, anything from Wide track to MLK. The North and East edges of town have semi-contemporary, suburban-style apartment complexes.The area north of Kennett is pretty intact. The houses tend to be smaller but its still a solid community.Far north, by Walton, theres some newer neighborhoods and 2 trailer parks- 1 old and a bit dumpy, 1 newer and pretty nice, and there are a few areas where you can buy a house on an acre of land. If I didn't work in Detroit, I'd consider living in north Pontiac, but I really don't want that far a drive everyday.It really does have a lot of variety for different lifestyles, not the same style of neighborhood from one end to the other. | ||
Lifeinmontage Member Username: Lifeinmontage Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2007 |
about jack in the box: i remember as recently as 6 years ago, there still was one in operation up in traverse city on US-31/M-72 along the south shore of the east bay. i was up there for 4th of july in 2001 (maybe a year or two earlier). about pontiac: i'm still scared to drive through there at night, while i have no problems walking around midtown or downtown at late as i want. | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 2026 Registered: 11-2003 |
We had a Jack in the Box in GPW many moons ago, on Mack Ave just below Vernier. The Pointes never have looked on drive-ins favorably, and this one did not last very long. | ||
Luckycar Member Username: Luckycar Post Number: 59 Registered: 02-2007 |
Talk to the clown! My Pontiac is a tough,urban,gritty,hispanic,ha rd working,truck building,parts making,used car selling kind of town..... | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 936 Registered: 09-2007 |
^^^Yeah, just like Detroit. | ||
Tammypio Member Username: Tammypio Post Number: 162 Registered: 04-2005 |
There was a Jack in the Box on 8 mile and Ryan in the 70s...loved their tacos! I think it was on the corner where the Checkers/Rallys is now. I was pleasantly surprised to find Jack in the Box in Anaheim, CA when visiting Disneyland in 1984 too! (Message edited by tammypio on December 01, 2007) | ||
Wykkidx Member Username: Wykkidx Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2004 |
There use to be one on Plymouth rd. between Evergreen and Burt rd., It was across from the Sears service center. I always wondered what happened to the JitB | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 951 Registered: 09-2007 |
They're all SW now. Ever since the Food Poisoning incident, they basically shrunk their operations. | ||
Sarge Member Username: Sarge Post Number: 813 Registered: 10-2003 |
There was one in Southfield as well at 11 and Greenfield. | ||
Bigb23 Member Username: Bigb23 Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2007 |
When I lived in Long Beach Cal.,in the 70's, there was a Jack in the Box billboard that asked "What ever happened to Rodney Allen Rippy?", someone spray painted underneath - "check your bonus Jack". Ahh - good times. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 1275 Registered: 11-2003 |
10 Mile and Kelly. First drive-thru where they took your order remotely (thru the clown head), that I can remember as a tyke. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 1302 Registered: 11-2003 |
JITB locations: http://www.jackinthebox.com/lo cations/index.php?section=5 | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 500 Registered: 05-2006 |
You're right Tammy, Jack-in-the-Box had the best tacos around. Here's the recipe if you want to try making them yourself. Jack-In-The-Box Tacos 1 Pound Ground Beef 1/3 Cup Refried Beans 1/4 Teaspoon Salt 2 Tablespoons Chili Powder 1/4 Cup Ortega Taco Sauce – Mild 12 Soft Corn Tortillas 3 Cups Cooking Oil 6 Slices American Cheese (each cut in half) 1 Head Lettuce – Chopped Fine In a skillet, slowly brown the beef over low heat, using a wooden spoon to chop and stir the meat, keeping it very fine and smooth. When the beef is brown, drain the fat. Add the refried beans and use the wooden spoon to smash the whole beans into the mixture creating a smooth texture. Add the salt, Chili powder, and Taco Sauce to the mixture. Remove from the heat. In another skillet heat 1/4 inch of oil until hot. Test with a small piece of tortilla – it should bubble when dropped into the oil. Spread one-twelfth of the beef mixture on the center of each corn tortilla. Fold the tortillas over and press so that the beef filling acts as an adhesive and holds the sides together. Drop each taco into the pan of hot oil and fry on both sides until crispy. When cooked, remove the tacos from the oil and place them on a rack or some paper towels until they are a little cooler. Pry open slightly and add 1/2 slice American cheese and some lettuce. Top with additional taco Sauce to taste. | ||
Tammypio Member Username: Tammypio Post Number: 163 Registered: 04-2005 |
Thanks Ramcharger! I'm going to try that recipe. Are there any Jack in the Box-like tacos around? Any mexican places serve them like that? Burger King had tacos on their menu a couple of years ago that were pretty similar but they disappeared pretty quickly. | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 708 Registered: 07-2007 |
"Yikes, how bad was Pontiac in the 70's?" It was so bad,,, The Lions had to move there so they could feel better about themselves. PS JiTB tacos were great? wow, I thought they were mush last time I had them when I lived in Los Angeles. Del Taco I think is better. BTW, Taco Bell uses dehydrated beans for their food, just add water. | ||
Exmotowner Member Username: Exmotowner Post Number: 428 Registered: 06-2005 |
There are jack in the boxes all over nashville and TN and the south. | ||
Dustin89 Member Username: Dustin89 Post Number: 160 Registered: 07-2006 |
Paddock St. & the rest of the S.E. side constitutes the worst part of the city, and it isn't anywhere near a city like Highland Park or areas of Detroit like Brightmoor or State Fair in decay or crime. Pontiac is a relatively stable city w/ a rising population--I certainly don't find it to be "scary" as others on this forum do. | ||
Ray Member Username: Ray Post Number: 1058 Registered: 06-2004 |
I think Pontiac is going to get rehabbed like Royal Oak and Ferndale. It's got a great location, surrounded by upscale communities, good urban infrastructure (although that wide track drive was the work of a demented sociopath) and the violent crime is not that bad bad. | ||
Ray Member Username: Ray Post Number: 1059 Registered: 06-2004 |
btw, "Sambo's"?? Talk about a different era. Can you imagine starting a restrauant and calling it it Sambo's? | ||
Ray Member Username: Ray Post Number: 1060 Registered: 06-2004 |
btw, "Sambo's"?? Talk about a different era. Can you imagine starting a restrauant and calling it it Sambo's? | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 3130 Registered: 11-2003 |
I worked at the one at 10 mile and Kelly | ||
Dustin89 Member Username: Dustin89 Post Number: 161 Registered: 07-2006 |
Ray: In short, I agree. Most of the neighborhoods are pretty solid. Pontiac is a small city, and it has a whole lot of historic districts packed into it, and historic & architecturally significant structures. The violent crime is almost exclusively tied to drugs. There has been big progress in the past few years with the downtown streetscape improvements & tenants moving in, rehab projects such as the Crofoot, and many new retail and residential projects around the city. What I think will be difficult is bringing back the lower Baldwin area and the Southeast Side. | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 306 Registered: 06-2007 |
Actually I think both areas can come back. The city and police department need to crack down on The problems that hurt those neighborhoods. Their proximity to downtown gives them potential. The problem is the police department isn't effective enough.Now theyre talking about laying off officers, when what they need to do is hire more.If the PD gets an overhaul, the bad areas stand a chance to get cleaned up. | ||
Dustin89 Member Username: Dustin89 Post Number: 162 Registered: 07-2006 |
Right on, Hpgrmln. The lack of $$$ in city coffers is a big part of the problem. Code enforcement and cracking down on illegal dumping is easier said than done, and of course that needs to fall into place before any real comeback starts in the aforementioned areas. Also, the policing is not proactive enough. This is no fault of the PD; the funding has simply been cut too much in the past few years. Traffic enforcement is non-existent. I'm surprised they still manage to do drug raids and prostitution stings, but they do. |
