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Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 818
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 8:28 am: |    |
Halfway through his 2nd term, the ol 'Hip-Hop Mayor' still doesn't have the pull he needs as Detroit's youngest mayor. The arrival of Quicken Loans is sure to be the sticking point of his upcoming campaign, but the whistleblower trial as well as the civil fund debacle (aka the Family Vacation) have to have people reeling over his squandering of funds that aren't available. |
Charlottepaul
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Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2059
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 8:30 am: | |
Think it is a question of, "Has he done more to help the city then hurt it?" |
Higgs1634
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Username: Higgs1634
Post Number: 225
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 8:32 am: | |
quote:but the whistleblower trial as well as the civil fund debacle (aka the Family Vacation) have to have people reeling over his squandering of funds that aren't available.
You're assuming that actually matters to the majority of the voters in the city. KK will be re-elected for as many terms as he wants as long as he can always paint the challenger as a puppet of the "suburbs". |
Charlottepaul
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Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 2060
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 8:42 am: | |
Don't you think that Kwame is a "puppet of the suburbs"? After all, in very general terms, he has concentrated redevelopment on places like downtown and midtown, which is where most suburbanites go that visit the city. |
The_ed
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Username: The_ed
Post Number: 1049
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 8:48 am: | |
Charlottepaul ~
"Don't you think that Kwame is a "puppet of the suburbs"? After all, in very general terms, he has concentrated redevelopment on places like downtown and midtown, which is where most suburbanites go that visit the city"
Yep, that's right, and that's where they spend that almighty dollar. |
Bobj
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Username: Bobj
Post Number: 2888
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:11 am: | |
Spending suburban dollars in the city is not a bad thing |
Novine
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Username: Novine
Post Number: 270
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:13 am: | |
I was going to say this on another thread but so long as Steve Wilson is around, Kwame will keep getting elected. Steve more than any other person helped Kwame get elected last time. |
Thejesus
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Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 2793
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:17 am: | |
^how'd he do that exactly? |
Iheartthed
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Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2229
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:19 am: | |
quote:Don't you think that Kwame is a "puppet of the suburbs"? After all, in very general terms, he has concentrated redevelopment on places like downtown and midtown, which is where most suburbanites go that visit the city.
AND that's where his campaign contributions come from! |
Novine
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Username: Novine
Post Number: 271
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:31 am: | |
Steve Wilson and his relentless harping on Kwame provided the perfect distraction for Kwame. He was able to use SW as an example of a non-Detroiter meddling in Detroit business and made him, not the Mayor, the focus of the election. If the vote had been a referendum on Kwame, he likely would have lost. But instead, it became a referendum on Detroit vs. Suburbs politics and that always works to the favor of the incumbent. Compare Kwame's experience with that of Jackie Currie. |
L_b_patterson
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Username: L_b_patterson
Post Number: 332
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:32 am: | |
I think the appropriate question is,
"Did KK do enough to even merit getting elected in the first place?" |
Blksoul_x
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Username: Blksoul_x
Post Number: 87
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:49 am: | |
novine stated....
quote:I was going to say this on another thread but so long as Steve Wilson is around, Kwame will keep getting elected. Steve more than any other person helped Kwame get elected last time.
You can't be serious!....and the Mayors brilliant debating skills, intelligence, financial backing, political experience, Black Christian connection, and overall respect in the Black community had nothing to do with it__go figure!
blksoul_atcha! |
Novine
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Username: Novine
Post Number: 272
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:49 am: | |
One could have asked the question about Brooks Patterson when he first got elected to Oakland County Executive. What were his qualifications? An entrenched county prosecutor who made a name for himself with his opposition to school bussing, several failed attempts to bring back the death penalty to Michigan and an ongoing war-of-words with Coleman Young. How does that make one qualified to run one of the largest governmental bodies in the state? |
Iheartthed
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Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2230
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:51 am: | |
^Or the rest of those OC politicians who form their campaigns around not sending money to Detroit... |
Jt1
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Username: Jt1
Post Number: 10822
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:53 am: | |
quote:KK will be re-elected for as many terms as he wants as long as he can always paint the challenger as a puppet of the "suburbs".
The same tired, bs argument. |
Artistic
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Username: Artistic
Post Number: 71
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:58 am: | |
Jt1...I agree....city vs suburb....black vs white....same old blah blah and of course this is always the case in Detroit Metro. |
Bobj
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Username: Bobj
Post Number: 2898
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:59 am: | |
And it will get us no where |
Jrvass
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Username: Jrvass
Post Number: 327
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 10:44 am: | |
Bobj,
You said a mouthful. Tried & true for 40+ years. |
Izzadore
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Username: Izzadore
Post Number: 67
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 11:13 am: | |
I'd say yes - KK has done enough. If he gets one more notch under has his belt like BofA, in these tough times, I'd say he a shoe-in. |
Danny
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Username: Danny
Post Number: 6818
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 12:18 pm: | |
If KING KWAME is the "puppet of the suburbs." Black Detroiters may think that he's selling out all of the Detroit black ghettohoods for white progress.
KING KWAME will be re-elected as mayor, but this time he would have the commanding lead in the polls. Plus he has the black slate on his side, too. |
Fnemecek
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Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 2605
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 12:26 pm: | |
Whether or not he's a shoe-in, Izzadore, will depend on whether or not folks in the neighborhoods get to vote. And, last time I checked, we do.
Rosa Parks will not have another funeral.
His next opponent isn't likely to have the kind of political baggage that Freman Hendrix did, as former chair of reform school board.
If Mayor Kilpatrick wants to retain his office, he is going to have to figure out what happened to the guy who campaigned on the platform of "Kids. Cops. Clean."
He and his staff have 1 year, 11 months and 2 weeks to make it happen. |
65memories
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Username: 65memories
Post Number: 488
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 12:58 pm: | |
If we monitor Belle Isle on Election night...late at night...the answer to the thread's question is "no." |
Bussey
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Username: Bussey
Post Number: 614
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 1:37 pm: | |
are there term limits for his position? |
Izzadore
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Username: Izzadore
Post Number: 68
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 2:02 pm: | |
Good point Fnemecek and I hope your right about that. KK is very charismatic though. Like it or not, he may very well be Michigan's most popular Democrat right now. Also, aside from his private/personal issues he's got a lot of ammo with regard to Detroit's Downtown resurgence. |
Homer
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Username: Homer
Post Number: 249
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 2:06 pm: | |
No term limits apply for this position. We are stuck with KK for as long as he chooses to run. Hendrix supporters gave their all during the last election and were quite surprised at the outcome, shocked actually. Who could beat him? Any suggestions? |
Izzadore
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Username: Izzadore
Post Number: 69
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 2:21 pm: | |
John Conyers? Not to say that he'd run...
(Message edited by izzadore on November 20, 2007) |
Granmontrules
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Username: Granmontrules
Post Number: 259
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 2:39 pm: | |
Most everyone I know - which is voting residents - have no problem with voting the mayor back in. No one can beat him - there are some good things happening. Unless he is caught in bed with a dead girl or live boy (old Louisianna saying) he is going to get elected again. |
Rjlj
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Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 426
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 2:59 pm: | |
how sad that is. |
Rocket_city
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Username: Rocket_city
Post Number: 475
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 5:12 pm: | |
The mayor in my opinion, HAS done enough to be reelected into office, but has also done enough to not be reelected. I didn't vote him back in the last election and would most likely not in the next. It's a shame, because I DO give him a lot of credit for what has happened, BUT I do believe someone with higher ethical standards is just as capable. |
Iheartthed
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Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2232
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 5:58 pm: | |
I honestly don't see anyone on the horizon who I'd rather have running the city right now... Which is sad because I was very much against him being re-elected. Barring some new scandal (and by new, I mean nothing heldover from his first term) I think the job is probably his as long as he wants it.
That said, I really don't see him staying for more than 1 more term. He's a smart guy and a young guy. Both too smart and young to typecast himself as permanent mayor of Detroit. He'd rather be seen as the mayor to get the ball moving. He'll stick around to (hopefully) get some more perceived wins under his belt, then he'll probably run for his mother's seat in Congress. |
Jerrytimes
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Username: Jerrytimes
Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 11:18 pm: | |
Hey Rocket. What exactly has he done that wasn't started by Archer? |
Lefty2
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Username: Lefty2
Post Number: 694
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:13 am: | |
Kwame said a few stupid things, everyone agrees he has done a couple stupid things, everyone agrees, but I hope he takes the path he has taken recently which is good for Detroit. He can make good if he keeps doing what he has been doing, recent incidents aside. I did not vote for him by the way. |
Gplimpton
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Username: Gplimpton
Post Number: 87
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 5:26 pm: | |
lol, steve wilson to blame? Without SW, nobody would have ever known about the navigator or kwame's other screw-ups. He would have been re-elected by 50 points. Instead, he won because he turned Freman into the "white man's candidate."
Yeah, right out of the Coleman A. Young playbook! Go Kwame! |