Fjw718 Member Username: Fjw718
Post Number: 163 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 10:22 am: | |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/bus iness/7097585.stm Americans are worried that hard times lie ahead. But in Detroit, Michigan, they have already arrived, with a vengeance. Michigan, by some calculations, has lost 400,000 jobs in the past seven years. That's in a state whose population is only 10 million. Detroit is seeing unemployment running at nearly 8%, twice the national average. The number of homes in the city "foreclosed" - or repossessed by mortgage lenders - is among the highest in the country. ..................... |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 3674 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 10:28 am: | |
""Keep an eye on Michigan," he says. "I believe what's happening here could happen to the rest of America if we don't watch ourselves."" If we keep sending all our good jobs overseas, and expect retail and service jobs to somehow replace them and sustain a middle class, I think it will happen to the rest of America. |
Arc312 Member Username: Arc312
Post Number: 49 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 11:55 am: | |
I'd be ok with sending manufacturing jobs overseas IF: 1) they were helping developing nations in the long run 2) Our nation had a competent re-training program to make sure that unemployed workers had affordable access to re-training and higher education 3) We would be ultimately better and enlightened by the process 4) we could guarantee that we would have undisrupted flows of necessary commodities. All 4 points are up in the air and I am undecided on whether it is going to better in the long run for Americans AND the global economy. |
Wanderinglady Member Username: Wanderinglady
Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 12:02 pm: | |
Johnlodge, I agree with you 100%. That said, I cringe every time I hear a BBC report on Detroit. The BBC constantly paints the region (both city and suburbs) as the absolute pits of the U.S.. And not just as part of its news coverage, either. I listen to a lot of BBC's music programming online, and I've heard plenty of snarky remarks from BBC presenters concerning Detroit when a Motown song is played. I don't disagree that Detroit has gone through and is going through some hard times. It's just that the writers and presenters at the BBC seem to take some sort of perverse pride in saying something negative about Detroit. |
Nyct Member Username: Nyct
Post Number: 83 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 12:32 pm: | |
The BBC loooooooves negative American news in general. make the brits who have a serious inferiority complex feel better about their empire being reduced to a little island. |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 5148 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 2:48 pm: | |
The BBC fucking sucks. I used to get almost all my news from there, but it became quite anti-American as far as I am concerned. Go on their "have your say" section and read the comments. Half of them are aimed at America.But then again, they're British which makes it difficult for them to comprehend the world outside their realm. Britishness can be a disease. (Message edited by patrick on November 16, 2007) |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 3120 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 2:54 pm: | |
perhaps it's Bushness and the less severe Blairness, not Britishness edit: did you watch both of the videos linked on that page? The Chicago profile reinforces the economic points made in the Detroit piece. Even MSNBC, when talking about housing today, made the point that Chicago's suburban housing market is ice cold. (Message edited by lilpup on November 16, 2007) |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 1639 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:09 pm: | |
"But then again, they're British which makes it difficult for them to comprehend the world outside their realm." Hahaha. Projection central. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2216 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:17 pm: | |
^Irony, right? |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 6813 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:12 pm: | |
Some people said that who needs Michigan. It's just a mitten shape piece of crap filled with Yankee Yorkers, Hillbillies and people that look like great apes. BBC can take those words above and shove it in the union jack behinds because We the people of Michigan are still here. We Michiganders went to lots of recession and the great depression but we came through. The people of Michigan will rise once again to show the world we have right stuff. After all we hold the greatest supply of lake water in the planet. BBC I think your queen is dying! Go check on her. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 4617 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:18 pm: | |
Better go easy on the BBC. It's the British equivalent of Air America or NPR--pretty much far left. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 1642 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:22 pm: | |
"Projection" is a complex psychological concept where people see faults in others that they are unable to recognize in themselves. Here, I think Patrick is projecting his own shortcomings onto the British. Hence my comment, "projection central." ;) |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 3694 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:22 pm: | |
Except that it is nothing like those networks because it is neither supported through donations, nor advertising revenue. |
401don Member Username: 401don
Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:30 pm: | |
I watch a lot of BBC news and, like the CBC here in Canada, they do a far better job of covering global events, i.e. in the Middle East, Far East, etc. Their coverage is in-depth and often gives the perspective of the citizen of that country and what they are going through. Only PBS does similar work on American networks. On the other hand, I agree, they often provide tabloid-style, negative journalism when covering United States domestic issues. Probably they just pick up a feed from a U.S. network and then comment on it instead of doing their own journalism. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 2217 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:32 pm: | |
quote:"Projection" is a complex psychological concept where people see faults in others that they are unable to recognize in themselves. Here, I think Patrick is projecting his own shortcomings onto the British. Hence my comment, "projection central." ;) I know... I was speaking of how ironic it is that he would say the same thing about the Brits that everyone else (including the Brits) says about Americans. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 1644 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:45 pm: | |
It would be ironic if it were funny. |