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Lilpup
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

on now
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Mcp001
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 7:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What regional water shortage?

Did someone drain the Great Lakes sometime last night when no one was looking?
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

South East. Could be a Detroit issue in the future. Keep a guard on your water or it could disappear overnight.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You bet. I'm working on the pipeline into Lake Michigan right now...........muuhhhaaaaahaaaa
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 6:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Towns have already run out of water. Expect a Nationwide disaster and a shut down if Atlanta goes dry.
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Cris
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 7:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The rest of the country hasn't given a shit about Detroit for the past 40 years so I guess I don't plan to give a shit about their water problems. And they're not going to drain it from the Great Lakes.
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I posted it in case they did cast a glance at the lakes, which they didn't. But these people are only recently addressing conservation concerns. They also mentioned, and showed ariel views of, a huge single resident house that allegedly still uses 390,000 gallons of water a month.
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Iaintgotnostyle
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 7:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If L.A. can turn their toilet water and piss into drinking water then so can Atlanta.
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Bearinabox
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought LA got their water from Inyo and Mono counties. Isn't that why all that former farmland out there is now a parched desert?
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Iaintgotnostyle
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understand that certain parts of L.A. filter waste water for drinking.

Saw that on 20/20 years ago.
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Tompage
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LA filters waste water for what's known as "gray water." Gray water is NOT used for drinking; rather it's used for landscape watering, golf courses, car washes, etc.
(I lived in LA County from 1980 til 2004.)
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Iaintgotnostyle
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I stand corrected
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Rickinatlanta
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The alleged home in midtown Atlanta is a disgrace here as well. It "supposedly" has an interior waterfall that does NOT recirculate the water and simply dumps it back into the sewage system. Right now that's the rumor.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rick HOW bad is the Water problem down in Metro ATL?
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Rickinatlanta
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We've had a ban on outside watering for several months now. The only good thing about that is that it came after the heat of summer. Many counties now have a total ban of outdoor water use, i.e. carwashes that don't filter/recycle, landscape companies, etc. The primary source of water for the Metro Atlanta area is Lake Lanier with a secondary being Lake Allatoona. There are several major issues concerning the situation we're in here in Ga as well as Alabama and Florida. They are in no particular order.
1. Ill managed growth in the Atlanta Region with no visible planning for infrastructure needs.
2. Apparently no water restrictions in the out of state downstream areas of the Chattahoochee which feeds out of Lanier.
3. The fact that approximately 3 - 4 times the amount of water that comes into Lanier is released downstream. We're talking billions of gallons of water daily. Some argue that the release should be pretty much what comes in from Ma Nature as if the dam/lake wasn't there.
4. There's a definite concern over the operation of a couple of power plants along the river downstream as they draw water out for their steam towers. HOWEVER, these plants actually return about 98% of that water back into the river at normal river temps. The issue is having enough water to draw out in the first place.

I think we've, myself included, had become spoiled by the quantity and relatively low cost of water here. This may bring about tiered pricing in the future as well as an increase in water saving measures such as flow restrictors, using rain barrels, using "gray water" from our individual homes, etc.

Sorry for the length just wanted to give an idea of what's going on.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"LA filters waste water for what's known as "gray water." Gray water is NOT used for drinking; rather it's used for landscape watering, golf courses, car washes, etc."

In Charlotte it is technically illegal to capture gray water. They want the water back at the sewage dept.!
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Tigers2005
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take this into consideration if you ever want to know what impact piping our water away may have. Just to supply the amount of water required for the Atlanta metro area, using my calculations, it would take approximately 1.3% of the average flow of the St. Clair River. That may not sound like that much to some, but it is well over 1 billion gallons of water, PER DAY. And that is for only one metropolitan area. And keep in mind that much of the water that we use ends up in the sanitary sewer and is treated and released back into our waterways, other water used ends up in storm sewers and groundwater, producing a much lower net loss of water. Piping it somewhere else would result in a net loss of 100% without the treated effluent re-entering the waterways.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pipe it out there to ATL and then pipe it back for treatment? That would be really interesting.
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Danny
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forget about those states. If they're not blessed by God, they will not receive rain and water according to Moses in Deuteromony. To receive rain and water in those states, the people MUST put away their self-ignorance.
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Tigers2005
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul, are you in Charlotte, NC? If so, how is the level of Lake Norman? I assume that is where most of your water comes from.
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The_ed
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take the flood waters from Mexico and deliver it to Atlanta.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well here in Charlotte, the water supply comes from several sources (as opposed to ATL that has just one lake source). We have a solid six month supply. Lake Norman is about ten feet below average which is its lowest level since it was built.
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Rickinatlanta
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Metro Atlanta has two lake sources, Lake Allatoona and Lake Lanier.

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