  Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 3308 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20071027/B IZ/710270380 "Short supply and high demand have pushed up prices -- and profits -- for Michigan growers, who contribute $450 million a year to the state's agriculture economy. Michigan is the third-largest apple growing state, behind Washington and New York. "It's the yin and yang of agriculture," said Denise Yockey, executive director of the Michigan Apple Committee. "It's the law of supply and demand." Surging demand drove Michigan apple shipments to an all-time high earlier this month, when more than 337,000 cartons were shipped in one week, up more than 83,000 cartons from the same week in 2006 and the first time the state's weekly apple shipment went above 300,000, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. With the higher shipments have come higher prices. Depending on the variety of apple, growers are getting about $3 more per bushel this year than last, up to $18 to $19 per bushel, according to Michigan State University Extension." | ||
Vas Member Username: Vas Post Number: 842 Registered: 01-2004 |
yea! I love the McIntosh ones. With a little red and green, the best of both worlds. A jumpstart to the economy. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 932 Registered: 05-2005 |
I love Northern Spies, they make the best pies! and they are great eaten right off the tree | ||
Vas Member Username: Vas Post Number: 843 Registered: 01-2004 |
can u get them at the store? | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 933 Registered: 05-2005 |
I dont think so, I have never seen them at a store. I have only seen them at orchards and farm stands (Message edited by miss cleo on October 29, 2007) | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 284 Registered: 01-2007 |
Honeycrisp! | ||
Renfirst Member Username: Renfirst Post Number: 72 Registered: 12-2006 |
I think they sell Northern Spies at the Franklin Cider Mill ... I'll check tomorrow when I go for my run. There's something this time of the year, the smell of the apple's and donuts at the cider mill, the crisp air ... I love Michigan in October. | ||
Sportsfan Member Username: Sportsfan Post Number: 12 Registered: 01-2007 |
There's no better smell in Sept-Oct then the apples(Cider-Orchards)the smells all around.Leaves on the grond.Tree colors peaking! Lifes Great in Michigan!! For a short time at least | ||
Renfirst Member Username: Renfirst Post Number: 77 Registered: 12-2006 |
Life IS great in Michigan. As long as it doesn't get cold too quickly. But you have to say that the winter's are just as amazing. I have to say that I got a little worried after seeing the piece on 60 minutes on the Bee's disappearing in N. America. You forget how important they are to the pollination of fruits and vegatables... We need to save the BEES! | ||
Bigjeff Member Username: Bigjeff Post Number: 137 Registered: 08-2006 |
Does anyone know if the cider mills are open this coming up weekend. I have been looking at their websites and they say that they are open Sept. through Oct. We wanted to go this weekend! | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 3210 Registered: 02-2007 |
I do not understand why we are #3 in apple sales, but all I see on store shelves is grown in Washington. Same with blueberries -- always maine or something. Even most of the cherries I see in stores aren't Michigan grown | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1390 Registered: 12-2003 |
Holiday Market carries Michigan apples. The Michigan Honeycrisp are far superior to the Washington ones. The big chains find it easier to buy in bulk from Washington and truck everything all over the country. I tell my chain store manager that I want to support local farmers and when they start doing that, I'll support their store. It uses up so much less energy too to buy local. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 2968 Registered: 11-2005 |
quote: This one is open: http://www.erwinorchards.com/c idermill.html | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1853 Registered: 05-2005 |
new york apples are better :P empires, cortlands...i rest my case (native upstate new yorker here) | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 3310 Registered: 10-2003 |
Honeycrisps were first planted in Michigan around 1990, and have quickly become one of the most popular apples. They were created by the University of Minnesota by cross pollinating Macoun and Honeygold apples. They are difficult to grow, and only grow in some areas (including Michigan!) Friske Orchads in Atwood, Michigan is currently taking orders for Honeycrisp Apples, you can by them online and have them shipped! http://www.apples-cherries.com /cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/0478.2.089 181720552727051?myclass=Apples %20-%20Fresh | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 934 Registered: 05-2005 |
Dont be a Honeycrisp sheeple. What they charge for those things is outragous,,,,and they are good, but no better than a Spy or a Jonathan. They are just the *it* apple. Dont be fooled. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 935 Registered: 05-2005 |
I am about 10 miles from Friskes....like I said above, you pay a great price for an apple that really isnt any better than whats out there already. We planted some apple trees this year, Ida Reds and Honeycrisp. I will eat my own and not pay the high price. | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 3215 Registered: 02-2007 |
Honeycrisp are way better than those mealy-textured jonathans. never had a spy | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 936 Registered: 05-2005 |
You must have had some bad Jonathans! | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1391 Registered: 12-2003 |
Empires are very good. They were my favorite until I tasted a Michigan Honeycrisp. I think I'll go by my tastebuds rather than Miss cleo. I do like a Michigan Northern Spy, but especially in baking. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1392 Registered: 12-2003 |
p.s. Michigan has the perfect weather to grow Honeycrisp. Its high price is because it's so difficult to grow and harvest. There's no taste quite like it. Our Michigan growers do pretty well with the Empires as well... | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1854 Registered: 05-2005 |
empires and cortlands were bred in NY at the geneva, NY experiment staion though http://www.nyapplecountry.com/ history.htm#nineteen | ||
That_gurl_kat Member Username: That_gurl_kat Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2007 |
I had the pleasure of eating a "Jazz" apple - sweet, tangy and crisp! I bought a few last year at a Meijer and when I went back for more there we none left. I check EVERY time I go grocery shopping and I have never seen them again. Anyone ever heard of them, and more importantly do you know where I can get some more? *Hoping they are a Michigan apple*  | ||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 211 Registered: 07-2007 |
Honeycrisp is far superior to anything else I've tasted. Supply must be ramping up to meet demand as the prices have come down a bit this season after they first hit the shelves. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1393 Registered: 12-2003 |
Yes and thank you New York for developing the Empire. Honeycrisp was developed in Minnesota, and is particularly suited to their climate and ours, but not Washington's. Honeycrisp tastes like cider ...nothing like it. | ||
That_gurl_kat Member Username: That_gurl_kat Post Number: 28 Registered: 10-2007 |
Mmmmm... maybe I'll stop the search for the elusive Jazz apple and buy some Honeycrisps! An apple that tastes like cider? YUM! | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 5598 Registered: 08-2004 |
Royal Gala are my favorite... | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 937 Registered: 05-2005 |
Sheesh! checking out the Friske site, 40 Honeycrisp for 45$! Last night we went to Bolt Farms to get pumpkins, and apples were on sale, I got 40-50 Honeycrisp for 15$ Was told to fill up the bag to the top cause she was tired of selling them! No way in heck would I pay 45 bucks for apples. Bolts Farm is about 6 miles east of Friskes | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 384 Registered: 09-2007 |
Yet, they only recognize Illinois for the Pumpkins X-P. | ||
Chuckjav Member Username: Chuckjav Post Number: 294 Registered: 09-2007 |
Royal Gala gets my vote too; Michigan produce is The Best. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10623 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: So true and quite an indictment on how perception is more important than reality in our society. Paying the prices asked for honeycrisps is sad and funny all wrapped into one. | ||
Raggedclaws Member Username: Raggedclaws Post Number: 83 Registered: 08-2006 |
^^Over-analyze much ? They're apples. The Honeycrisps taste really good. Some farms are over-charging. They still taste good. Some of you need to get over yourselves. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10625 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: ?? I think people are easily told what is 'the best' and believe it. It made me laugh that it applies to apples for some. | ||
Umcs Member Username: Umcs Post Number: 344 Registered: 06-2007 |
All I know is that the apples this year grown here in Michigan taste a lot better than I remember them being from last year. Tasty! | ||
D2dyeah Member Username: D2dyeah Post Number: 78 Registered: 09-2005 |
I wish some of those Michigan apples would make their way to Los angeles. There isn't an apple that has any taste in the entire state of California. | ||
Gingellgirl Member Username: Gingellgirl Post Number: 69 Registered: 04-2007 |
Bigjeff - Yates Cider Mill in Rochester is open thru November. Also try Ashton Orchards in Ortonville. They stay open thru Thanksgiving. Call ahead to be sure. See www.oaklandweb.com/recreation/ cidermills.htm Hollywood Markets carry Honeycrisp, and I agree that they're superior apples. The ones we've purchased are large and provide a treat for two people. | ||
Renfirst Member Username: Renfirst Post Number: 80 Registered: 12-2006 |
I'm becoming a fan of the Fuji apple ... very crispy... Franklin Cider Mill is open until the weekend after Thanksgiving. http://www.franklincidermill.c om/history.html "Washington apples are the most beautiful apples grown. The apples grown in the eastern states are the most flavorful. The reason being, the apples grown in the western states have lava rock in the soil from volcanoes over the many thousands of years; causing the soil not to have the richness that it needs. Therefore they do not produce a very tasteful fruit. The state of Washington leads in producing apples. They produce as much as four times as any other state. New York has always lead #2 and Michigan #3. Weather this year and the past two years has been exceptional for Michigan farmers. In fact, Michigan this year grew more apples than New York. We, at the Franklin Cider Mill are proud of the apples grown in the state of Michigan; therefore we only use Michigan apples." | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 939 Registered: 05-2005 |
"Washington apples are the most beautiful apples grown. The apples grown in the eastern states are the most flavorful. The reason being, the apples grown in the western states have lava rock in the soil from volcanoes over the many thousands of years; causing the soil not to have the richness that it needs. Therefore they do not produce a very tasteful fruit. ------------------------------ --------------- ahem, Bullshit! Michigan apples are VERY tastey Maybe downstate the apples arent tasty, but anything grown above the 45th parellel is mighty fine. Thats not entirely true either. We liked to go to Coon Creek Cider Mill and pick our apples and they were mighty tasty (Message edited by miss cleo on October 30, 2007) | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10628 Registered: 10-2003 |
Seeing as they are in Michigan they might consider Michigan an 'Eastern State' in that quote. | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 285 Registered: 01-2007 |
Early in the season, Honeycrisps were $11 for a approx. 5lb sack (12"x7"x5") filled above the rim. Similar to other apples at the cider mill. Then the Freep had a full page article on Honeycrisps. The next bag I got was $14 and I was told by the fruit guy that the next shipment was going to cost him more. Supply & Demand. You all demand less, and I'll have a cheaper supply for myself! | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 552 Registered: 11-2006 |
When I was a kid we used to raid the orchards. There is something about apples at cider mills. MMMM cider and donuts........ | ||
Renfirst Member Username: Renfirst Post Number: 81 Registered: 12-2006 |
Cleo, They're saying Washington's apples look good, but ours are tastier... | ||
Lmr Member Username: Lmr Post Number: 108 Registered: 03-2007 |
Well...this must be referring to my state when someone says this is not a good year for apples. This was not a great year for apples here in Minnesota. Too dry. Real dry, like living in Arizona. We had more rain in the first 3 weeks of September than in April, May, June, July, and August combined. The drought has finally ended in many parts of the state. | ||
Novine Member Username: Novine Post Number: 225 Registered: 07-2007 |
This article does a good job of explaining why the Honeycrisps are so juicy, which is one of their best attributes. http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20071014/UPDAT E/710140359/1409/METRO | ||
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm Post Number: 959 Registered: 10-2003 |
When people think of Washington apples, they probably are considering Reds and Goldens that have been bred to look good. Unfortunately, they taste like crap. What we're growing more of out here are Grannys, Pink Ladies and Fujis, which are all much better eating apples then either the Red or Golden. The article is correct in both the problems with growing Honeycrisps and the fact that they grow better in the midwest than out here. In the Wenatchee and Yakima valleys, it's a little to hot during the day for the variety. I was talking with an Orondo, WA orchardist the other morning over coffee and he's a bit worried that the Honeycrisp is a bit of a designer apple whose appeal to consumers might drop because of its price. It takes 3 to 5 years for a newly planted orchard to produce in quantity, and after prices fell when Grannys and Fujis became more common, he says many orchardists out here are unlikely to replant with Honeycrisps, and as machinery and labor costs increase (some guys were paying pickers $25 a bin this season) and shortages continue, if the Honeycrisp price drops, it becomes an unprofitable apple very quickly. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1450 Registered: 04-2006 |
I just came from 'up north'. The apples are in such abundance that they are selling them cheap in front of gas stations. Carrots and beets must have been records too as they are selling them too. Prices must be good as guys were loading up pick-up trucks with the morsels! | ||
Jrvass Member Username: Jrvass Post Number: 292 Registered: 01-2007 |
Ha! Were the gas stations up north selling deer Co-Caine and Deer Crack too? They are pushing deer bait for hunting season! | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1451 Registered: 04-2006 |
Yeah I know its considered deer bait, could not resist it though. | ||
Carptrash Member Username: Carptrash Post Number: 1475 Registered: 10-2003 |
In Dixon NM we had a very good apple crop. In case you were wondering. eeeeek |
