  Innercitydoc Member Username: Innercitydoc Post Number: 59 Registered: 09-2006 |
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20071023/NEW S01/71023058/1003 Looks like the latest blow to the DMC/WSU situation. There is almost certainly a divorce on the horizon at this point. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 6720 Registered: 02-2004 |
Pitiful, The problem with these doctors is within the money, not saving lives. What ever happen to the Hippocratic oath. | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 518 Registered: 02-2007 |
Quote: "What ever happen to the Hippocratic oath?" It's still there, it just doesn't buy too many golf lessons. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5877 Registered: 11-2006 |
Divorce is not on the horizon, they are dividing the assets. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 323 Registered: 09-2007 |
"Divorce is not on the horizon, they are dividing the assets." Sounds like a Divorce a brewing to me. That would be like a married couple telling their children that they're not getting a divorce, just splitting up. | ||
Umcs Member Username: Umcs Post Number: 287 Registered: 06-2007 |
No matter the cause, it's still not good. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2007 |
quote: You obviously don't know anything about the current state of medicine, malpractice rates for OB-GYNs, and anything else relevant to this issue. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 327 Registered: 09-2007 |
Greatlakes, I'm pretty sure in spite of all those things, money is still one of the main reasons. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 37 Registered: 07-2007 |
Yes, but it's money to cover those expenses, not for "golf lessons," or whatever other ignorant notions some people have about health professionals. Do a google search. Just one article http://www.med.umich.edu/opm/n ewspage/2005/obgyn.htm "Researchers also found signs for problematic future supply of obstetricians in several counties containing populous cities, such as Dade County, Fla., Wayne County, Mich., and Cook County, Ill., which all have high costs of malpractice insurance. ... Wayne County in Michigan , which includes Detroit, went up 18 percent, from almost $164,000 to nearly $194,000." | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5910 Registered: 11-2006 |
My meaning is not that it isn't a divorce, rather that it is well underway, not upcoming on the horizon, but a current reality. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 38 Registered: 07-2007 |
As a current medical student, I can assure you that there is no way you'll put yourself through the hell that is medical education (4 years of college, 4 years of medical school [graduating with an average debt of $130,571 http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pu b/category/5349.html ], 4 years of an intense OB-GYN residency plus additional fellowship years in some cases) just to make a lot of money as an OB-GYN... A detailed description of what it takes to become an OB-GYN: http://home.cfl.rr.com/dahmd/train.htm ...there are far easier/happier ways if that's all you're interested in... (Message edited by GreatLakes on October 23, 2007) | ||
Kjwick Member Username: Kjwick Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2003 |
do university obgyn docs pay malpractice insurance? i was under the impression no... sure, that is factored into their salaries (which are likely publicly available...they are at umich anyway). i'm guessing the doc split is over a little more than money. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5925 Registered: 11-2006 |
Most practicing Obstetricians cannot afford (it would cost more than they make), the insurance if they had to pay market prices privately. Multiple strategies have emerged, hospital owned off shore held insurance companies offering discounted rates in exchange for a few night shifts per month per practitioner is probably the most common approach. Employed Docs, would not be paying the premium, the employer (DMC in this case) would. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5926 Registered: 11-2006 |
Malone had duties and responsibilities far beyond chairman of the department. He straddled loyalties between WSU SOM, and the DMC. As the split is with WSU, the best guess is that the DMC and Duggan will pick them up in some capacity...possibly a new residency program at HVH, or SGH with a department built around it. Greatlakes; once upon a time (15-20 years ago) ObGyn was a desirable field with decent money (and horrible lifestyle as always). The money part has dried up a lot, not entirely, but a lot. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 39 Registered: 07-2007 |
Oh, looks like those greedy docs that resigned actually did it because they didn't like WSU's attitude toward the DMC and plan to stay with the DMC and continue to treat underserved patients. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20071023/U PDATE/710230437/1396/BIZ quote: Golf lessons indeed... | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10581 Registered: 10-2003 |
It appears that the Drs that were being dismissed here were standing up for their beliefs. It is nice to see that they are standing behind their convictions. As someone with friends in medicine the money doesn't fall from the sky for many Drs. The ones that are in the filed out of love and passion are not in it for the money. Almost all fields of medicine have options towards quick wealth and many, many do not take that path out of passion for the field and for their patients. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 2132 Registered: 01-2005 |
As a former security director in a major hospital, I've always been amused that the only publication you find open in the physician's medical libraries is the WSJ. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5933 Registered: 11-2006 |
Too complicated...broken down; DMC and WSU SOM are in a very ugly divorce, Malone and these other folks picked the DMC, spurning WSU, and WSU fired them. That is all. | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 496 Registered: 07-2007 |
MONEY getting into the way of all the grandiose advertisements about how great the DMC is! i cannot fathom the thought. WSU, worried about money over health care, no way! | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 1089 Registered: 04-2005 |
as a former physician in a major hospital, i've always been amused that the only publication you find open at the security desk is playboy. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 2133 Registered: 01-2005 |
But of course. For the articles. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5971 Registered: 11-2006 |
Oh it is absolutely about money 100 percent. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 5972 Registered: 11-2006 |
"Former" Physician? You mean retired, you are always a Physician. |
