Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 4049 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:34 am: | |
But not for a while - it has a way to go. Looking toward the famous Wyoming Curve.
Has it affected attendance at JAWS for Jesus?
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Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 3484 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:48 am: | |
So, what are they doing to the Lodge? Honest ignorance from an east sider... |
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313
Post Number: 432 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:28 am: | |
BUMP!!! <313> |
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248
Post Number: 804 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:31 am: | |
Just hurry up and give me my I-75 back! |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 1511 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 9:14 am: | |
Mack, they pretty much tore the entire road up and rebuilt it. Sections of it are just recently reopening. I actually think the work has been progressing fairly quickly. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 3486 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 9:17 am: | |
Yeah, probably some new bridges and stuff, too? But no widening? |
Quozl Member Username: Quozl
Post Number: 1142 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 9:24 am: | |
quote:Just hurry up and give me my I-75 back! I thought the Lodge Fwy designation was M-10? |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 9818 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 9:26 am: | |
Once M-10 is open, Yvette won't have to share her freeway with errant Lodgers. DEtoured, you might say. |
Kaptansolo Member Username: Kaptansolo
Post Number: 47 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 9:36 am: | |
Wow Yvette...talking about selfish..."my" I-75. Why don't you just use Oakland, John R and Brush. Since everyone is using "your" interstate...the surface streets should be clear. |
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 270 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 9:41 am: | |
Mackinaw, That is correct. No widening. Too cost prohibitive. |
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo
Post Number: 740 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:25 am: | |
bleh! All that cement is just depressing! |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 1425 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:45 am: | |
This is what I'd like to know...just WHAT are they doing? They repaved the f'er not too long ago...like maybe 10 years ago. And with concrete...not asphalt. I remember because not a year afterwards, they came through and cut those wierd notches in it, closing lanes for months. It was irritating (I drove that freeway daily for work then). What the hell are they doing now anyway? Nothing looks different in these pictures. |
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 272 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:47 am: | |
If they last time they did major work was 10 years ago, then they probably did some concrete pavement restoration rather than a full on reconstruction. Those typically have a fix life of about 10 years or so. This time they are doing a full reconstruction. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 1299 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:55 am: | |
I wonder how much all of that cost the good taxpaying citizens of Michigan? |
Ffdfd Member Username: Ffdfd
Post Number: 133 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:58 am: | |
quote:Mack, they pretty much tore the entire road up and rebuilt it. Sections of it are just recently reopening. I actually think the work has been progressing fairly quickly. There is no more appropriate DYer to answer questions about the John C. Lodge Freeway than Johnlodge. |
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo
Post Number: 273 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:01 am: | |
I wonder how much all of that cost the good taxpaying citizens of Michigan? Road construction is very expensive. That is no doubt. However, the project they did 10 years ago was SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than a full reconstruction. Typically DOTs will do those more minor fixes in order to buy some time for them to save the money required to do such a major reconstruction. It's all part of pavement management. |
Quozl Member Username: Quozl
Post Number: 1145 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:21 am: | |
quote:I wonder how much all of that cost the good taxpaying citizens of Michigan? Supposedly $140 million. http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0 ,1607,7-151-9620-171901--,00.h tml |
Dan_the_man Member Username: Dan_the_man
Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:59 am: | |
Parts of the work are only repairs to the road rather than a full replacement. The section that is now open from I-94 to Davison was not fully replaced, rather they just replaced sections that needed it. The further north section of the freeway is the area that is being fully redone. There has also been lots of bridge work going on the entire length of the work area. |
Waxx Member Username: Waxx
Post Number: 231 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:34 pm: | |
Looks like they're moving ahead of schedule. Where I work at, that was my main route. It'll be good to once again cruise on the Lodge again. That first pic reminded me of the link to the old WSU archives that showed the Lodge @ Wyoming where it became James Couzens (when it was a parkway). |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 3490 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:58 pm: | |
Yeah, I thought I remembered "dodge the Lodge" no more than 10 years ago too, Quinn. Strange that they should have to shut down the whole thing to repair parts of it. Anyway, I like the Lodge, all of our freeways should have been built that way. It is fairly minimum impact because it is like a narrow canal, not a wide trench. The Ford freeway is the next best freeway...and they better not widen that. I-75 was a bit too high impact, plus it took out Hastings St., and even if it does carry tons of north-south traffic from multiple states, it is a bit too wide. I-96...what a clusterfuck, and waaaay too wide. That's the one that scarred the city. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3634 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:09 pm: | |
I had some work over the weekends for a couple summers moving barricades for MDOT and the construction crews for the I-94 and Lodge construction around 2001. Easy work (about 20/30 hours from Friday night to early Sunday), but there's always idiots who hit them at high speed. And there's that one moronic Detroit (or county--I forgot) motorcycle cop who bitched to me that no barricade was going to stop him--as if we cared... He complained that nobody told HIM about the Lodge being closed for the weekend! Duh! We closed it for most of the summer and it was about the middle of the construction season. What a dummy! |
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 843 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:56 pm: | |
If they constructed them properly in the first place instead of using corn meal mush and Crazy Glue, we wouldn't have to go through this so often. Mi's road building lobby could teach the NRA a thing or two. |
Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 912 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:15 pm: | |
In some areas they're rebuilding the original 1960's pavement. I know that's the case with that formerly nasty stretch in Southfield. How old is the pavement from 8 to the Davison? (Message edited by eric on August 06, 2007) |
Dan_the_man Member Username: Dan_the_man
Post Number: 26 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:58 pm: | |
I think I remember hearing that it was from the 80's, maybe '87... I don't really remember. That's still about 20 years and they're just doing some patching, it's really held up quite well. |
Danindc Member Username: Danindc
Post Number: 2962 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:01 pm: | |
Tear that schitt down! |
Quozl Member Username: Quozl
Post Number: 1151 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:06 pm: | |
Why do that DaninDC? How are you going to replace it? Where will you get the funds? Where is your scope of work? What evidence do you have to back up your assertion? DaninDC? Hello DaninDC? |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 1364 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:10 pm: | |
They did north of Eight Mile less than two years ago. That might be what is ringing bells in your heads... (Message edited by charlottepaul on August 06, 2007) |
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni
Post Number: 507 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:40 pm: | |
It's been over 20 years since I've traveled on the M-10 in Detroit. I distinctly remember the sharp veer to the left when traveling southbound near Wyoming Street. The exit there at Wyoming street was dangerous. There was a creepy but convenient McDonald's at that exit in the late 70's and early 80's. The parking lot was really weird to manuever. Anyone else share any memories of that particular area? |
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 776 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 2:01 pm: | |
Looks like those service drives need some attention as well. |
Philm Member Username: Philm
Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 4:52 pm: | |
wow..those pictures bring back memories. That's my old neighborhood...Puritan and Wyoming. As a kid I remember watching them build the Lodge extension from Wyoming out, from the day they broke ground. Moved out in 1963. Phil |