Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3624 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 1:48 pm: | |
3 Mile Road--must not be near here. 3 Mile for metro Detroit would be Plymouth. (Message edited by Livernoisyard on August 04, 2007) |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 2842 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 3:32 pm: | |
From U.S. Bridges Similar In Design To Collapsed I-35W:quote:The below is NBC News' list of all U.S. bridges similar in design to the Interstate 35W bridge that collapsed in Minneapolis on Aug. 1. Inclusion in this list does not mean the bridges have been rated as structurally deficient.
State | Structure Number | Location | Crossing | MICHIGAN | 71171073000B020 | US-23 | OCQUEOC RIVER | MICHIGAN | 75200020000B010 | COUNTY ROAD P449 | INDIAN RIVER | MICHIGAN | 75200021000B010 | COUNTY ROAD P448 | CREIGHTON RIVER | MICHIGAN | 75200021000B020 | COUNTY ROAD P448 | CREIGHTON RIVER | MICHIGAN | 75200021000B030 | COUNTY ROAD P448 | WEST BRANCH MANISTIQUE | MICHIGAN | 75200021000B040 | COUNTY ROAD P448 | STUTTS CREEK | MICHIGAN | 75303G00010B010 | SOUTHSIDE ROAD | N BRANCH STUTTS CREEK | MICHIGAN | 67313H00004B010 | 3 MILE RD | HERSEY RIVER | MICHIGAN | 44305B00003B010 | BARNES ROAD | PETERS DRAIN | MICHIGAN | 49149023000B010 | US-2 | CUT RIVER | MICHIGAN | 51151021000B030 | M-55 | PINE R | MICHIGAN | 52308C00011B010 | HD ROAD | DEAD RIVER | MICHIGAN | 57200014000B010 | LA CHANCE ROAD | CLAM RIVER | MICHIGAN | 47302H00007B010 | GANNON ROAD | CONWAY-COHOCTAH/SPRAGUE |
Other states are available via the link. |
Bumble Member Username: Bumble
Post Number: 270 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 3:42 pm: | |
I'm never leaving the house. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3627 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 3:51 pm: | |
There's a specially named phobia for fearing bridges. Michigan's bridge safety record is near the bottom, too. MI is good for bottoming with various metrics. I hear that Oklahoma and Rhode Island's bridges are the riskiest. Michigan's are close to third worst. Yet, MI's bridge guy makes his perfunctory assurance that we have nothing to fear--even though our legal truck loads are about 80% heavier than most states. Several bridges designed before roughly 1975 are defective or functionally obsolete. Fortunately, dozens of bridges of that era were removed entirely during the recent overhauls of I-94 and I-96. (Message edited by Livernoisyard on August 04, 2007) |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1520 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:30 pm: | |
MI also built its highway system before many other states, so it has many more functionally obsolete bridges. I think the Lodge work this summer took many bridges off that list also. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 1202 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 11:34 pm: | |
My mom told me she read the Mackinac Bridge rated just about as structurally sound as the 35W bridge...somewhere in the 50 range. |
Scottr Member Username: Scottr
Post Number: 666 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:46 am: | |
Mackinac is rated a 56, which is much lower than i expected (i was trying to prove you wrong!) 35W was rated a 50, but was 'structurally deficient' compared to Mackinac's 'functionally obsolete'. sources: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20099085 http://nationalbridges.com/i35wbridge.html (Message edited by scottr on August 05, 2007) |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 1205 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 1:47 am: | |
Ah, I can deal with functionally obsolete. |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1521 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 2:21 pm: | |
I also remember reading that sometime in the next 10 years they are completely replacing the bridge decking on the Mackinac Bridge, which will raise its score. |
Dustin89 Member Username: Dustin89
Post Number: 86 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 2:39 pm: | |
I looked on the detnews.com feature where you can search deficient or obsolete bridges in your county. In Oakland there were quite a few; many bridges over I-75 and I-75 ramps/bridges (the 1-75/1-696 interchange, for example) have problems. About a year ago I was using the turnaround that takes you over I-75 from eastbound 9 Mile to go to northbound I-75, and I saw (through a hole in the bridge) cars driving by on I-75 below me. Needless to say, many of those turnarounds are in need of work. A lot of bridges over Paint Creek in the Rochester and Lake Orion area, and a few over the Clinton River in Pontiac also are deficient or obsolete. |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1522 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:28 pm: | |
They were doing emergency repairs on the large bridge that takes eastbound 696 over 75 last Tuesday. Something was wrong with the expansion joint. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 2848 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:50 pm: | |
This looks like the detnews.com thing Dustin89 mentioned: Interactive: Structurally deficient Michigan bridges. |
Philm Member Username: Philm
Post Number: 34 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 5:38 pm: | |
"I also remember reading that sometime in the next 10 years they are completely replacing the bridge decking on the Mackinac Bridge, which will raise its score." Yes, obviously that worked for the I35W bridge |