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Upinottawa
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Government of Canada just released its crime stats for Canadian cities and Windsor is in the middle of the pack. Obviously, the criminal laws in Canada (Ontario) and Michigan are different and are compiled by different sources, but how does Windsor compare with other communities in the Detroit area?


Windsor crime stats are in the middle of the pack

Chris Thompson, Windsor Star
Published: Wednesday, July 18, 2007

Windsor's crime rate ranked in the middle of the pack among cities with a population between 100,000 and 500,000.

Of the 18 communities included, Windsor placed 10th behind Saint John, N.B. and just ahead of Kingston.

In 2006 Windsor had 6,754 criminal code violations per 100,000 people.

The city at the top of the list of smaller cities was Regina, with a rate of 12,415 criminal code violations per 100,000.

Windsor had a homicide rate of 1.5 per 100,000, a robbery rate of 70 per 100,000, and a total property crime rate of 3,609 per 100,000.

The break-in rate was 743 per 100,000 and the motor vehicle theft rate was 291 per 100,000.

Regina had the highest murder rate, with 4.5 homicides for every 100,000 people. That was followed by Saskatoon, which had 3.3 murders, and Gatineau, which had 3.1.

The chances of getting robbed in Windsor were less than many other cities of comparable size - including St. Catharines, Kitchener and London - with a rate of 70 incidents for every 100,000 people. Saskatoon had the highest rate, at 268 per 100,000 people.

According to the Windsor Police Service, overall crime in the city is down 12 per cent for the first six months of 2007 compared to 2006.

Crimes against persons were down in June from 249 in June 2006 to 202 last month, a drop of 19 per cent.

Family-related assaults were up slightly with 39 reported last month compared to 36 in June of last year while non-family assaults dropped from 80 to 74.

Assaults on police officers went from 14 last June to seven last month.

Robberies and attempts dropped from 17 to 13 while miscellaneous violent incidents dropped from 82 to 53, a decline of 35 per cent.

Property crimes dropped from 1,124 incidents in June 2006 to 982 last month, a drop of 13 per cent.

Break and enters and attempts went from 140 to 133 while car thefts rose from 59 last June to 64.

Thefts over $5,000 jumped slightly from 11 to 12, while thefts under $5,000 went from 596 to 511.

Possession of stolen goods charges went from 31 last June to 22 last month, a drop of 29 per cent.

Fraud offences dropped from 69 to 44 and mischief offences dropped from 213 to 191.

Firearms offences dropped from 17 last June to just four last month, while drug offences jumped from 28 last June to 53 last month.

For the year to date there have been 294 drug-related charges, compared to 261 for the same period last year.

Officers also laid 10 prostitution charges in June, bringing the total year to date to 80.


© The Windsor Star 2007
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Goat
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yet we have the highest budget of any police force in Canada. Not to mention the highest paid. I wonder why? King Francis (mayor if this dismal city) sits on the board and like all the boards he sits on the budgets are ridiculous.

With all of the money thrown at the cops why are we in the middle of the pack? I guess catching speeders is more important than catching real criminals.

Amazing that the city gave another $500,000 to combat guns and drugs yet the drugs are at an all-time high and they removed 6 guns from the streets, 4 of which were rifles. Hoo wee! Now that's getting some bang for your buck!

The reason the crime rate is down is because people can't move out of here fast enough. With high property tax rates, a ballooning water bill, high electricity costs, extremely high unemployment rate and a council and mayor who coldn't put together a child's B-day party, it is a wonder anyone is still here.
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Patrick
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Off topic: Is Windsor gaining or losing population? Hell, I feel safer there than just about anywhere really.
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have not heard anything about Windsor's population decreasing, however Windsor's higher unemployment rate (than the national average) coupled with the oil-driven job boom in Western Canada has resulted in people leaving Windsor. However, Windsor receives a substantial number of immigrants each year (probably more than enough to offset those leaving for Alberta).
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El_jimbo
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Regina had the highest murder rate, with 4.5 homicides for every 100,000 people. That was followed by Saskatoon, which had 3.3 murders"

I didn't know Saskatchewan was so violent and dangerous...by Canadian standards.
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Aiw
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

The Jackson Pollock-style burgundy stains that dot the living room ceiling are known locally as "victory marks." Syringe-cleaning celebrations of a successful hit, where addicts shoot what's left of the mixture of blood and drugs skyward. There are faint signs of habitation in the rest of the apartment -- a dirty T-shirt on the floor of the bedroom closet, a single wiener and a half-finished McDonald's soft drink in the fridge. But the blackened spoon on the kitchen counter and used needle behind the couch dispel any lingering doubts about the basement flat's primary use. City officials are here looking for an excuse to close the shooting gallery down. The health inspector checks the bathroom -- filthy but functional. Apart from a broken window, the city's man finds the place in good structural order. It's the firefighter who finds the potentially fatal flaw -- exposed live wires behind the broken stove. The door is locked and the placard goes up: "Unfit for Human Occupation."




http://www.macleans.ca/article .jsp?content=20070115_139375_1 39375
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Blitz
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saskatchewan and Manitoba have historically had higher crime rates, the larger cities in those provinces have some very poor neighbourhoods with high populations of Native people and gangs, and much of the crime in these cities seems to be confined to these areas. I live in Brandon (Manitoba) which is a small city with very little crime but we hear a lot about violent crimes 2 hours away in Winnipeg.

At last check, Windsor's population was growing...the 2006 census results reported a population of 216,000 (up 7000 since the 2001 census).

The low crime rates are something to be proud of, particularly the very low car theft rate.
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Paulmcall
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you do get caught the penalties aren't very stiff either.
For instance, Frank Nosella kills his wife Lynn in 1994, dumps her body off the 401 by Tilbury and when he gets convicted only gets 12 years for 2nd degree murder.
He's out of jail by now. Nice. Anyone else hear about this?
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Terryh
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat you live in Windsor? I love that city and am dissapointed to find out it has a dismal side. I considered moving into an apartment on the river and commuting to the US everyday.

The 'land of the free' is much more rigid and restrictive with harsh penalties yet has much more crime. I love Canada. According to ANEKI.COM Canada has one of the highest standards of living in the world.
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Blitz
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^ I think some of the Windsorites on this forum should leave Windsor for a while and then they might appreciate it more. After growing up in Windsor, I moved to London (Ontario) and then to Brandon. I'm very happy to say I'm coming back to Windsor in a couple months.

It has problems like any city does but I think it's biggest problem is the attitude of the people there and the way they put down their hometown. Windsor has some outstanding attributes and amenities that people take for granted.
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Hpgrmln
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im surprised there isnt MORE crime in Windsor. I keep hearing about all the blatant drug-dealing and what-not in areas west of the bridge. I was very dissapointed when I last went there. The area south off Riverside, a few blocks east of the casino, is an eyesore. Slumlord rentals galore. The entire stretch of Drouillard Rd-beginning to end-is straight up ghetto. Once you leave downtown its just like any midwestern-US town that used to much nicer than it is now.
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blitz, I have lived elsewhere and those cities are on the move. The reason people who live in Windsor bitch is because the city could be so much more than it has been.
A lot of people, and especially those with education are moving our of Windsor but Windsor has the 4th highest immigration in Canada. Immigrants tend not to raise crime rates as do those who were born here.

Terryh, if you decide to move to Windsor, there are many areas that are fantastic. The waterfront being one of them. I just think it is sad that the city touts a lower crime rate yet we ar ein the middle of the pack when it comes to other cities in the country especially when taking into consideration the amount of money the cops are given. I would have and should expect more.

Windsor can be so much better but an ineffectual council and cluseless mayor have tied the city's hands time and again. As citizens we should always be pushing the bar higher and higher. Unfortunately, decades old thinking continues to rule the roost in this city.

http://www.canada.com/windsors tar/news/editorial/story.html? id=b1fdeee2-3462-4ee4-b051-d60 679549ce1&k=40181

Labour...sticking their nose where they don't belong!
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat, I can't say that I always agree with you, but that Peace Beacon objection is just plain stupid (actually it is embarrassing). One would think labour would be a fan of new business (especially one with the potential as this bistro).
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 1:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and therein lies one of the biggest problems for this city...assholes like Gary Parent!
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Aiw
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope they succeed with the opposition to the liquor license, only so the city ends up with another white elephant on its hands.

The "peace (of crap) beacon" was a colossal waste of my tax dollars, and is an ugly turd.
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed AIW that it is a crappy buliding. $3.2 million for a building that should have cost no more than $300,000 to build. I wonder who's pockets were stuffed?

I want it to succeed because we have to have SOMETHING to succeed.
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wanted to share this with you. Talk about drama and bullshit politics (not from Halberstadt). The election can't come soon enough.

http://www.alanhalberstadt.com /
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Wfw
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat said:

"With all of the money thrown at the cops why are we in the middle of the pack? I guess catching speeders is more important than catching real criminals."

I suspect that the amount of money thrown at the cops has little impact on crime in the city. For the most part the police only deal with crime after it has occurred, very rarely are they actually able to prevent it. The crime rate is indicative of the negative social factors (unemployment, poverty, hopelessness, etc) within the city.

I've said it before on this forum, but I lived in Windsor for almost three decades and can count on one hand my personal experiences with crime. I always found it a very safe place to live as long as one employs common sense and a modicum of street smarts.
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Sticks
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Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 1:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are some crime statistics from three SE Michigan cities, all with populations above 100,000.

Ann Arbor - 2005 (rate per 100k):

Murder rate: 0.0
Robbery rate: 89.7
Violent crime rate: 313.2
Burglary rate: 757.7
Motor Vehicle theft rate: 209.4
Total property crime rate: 2,977.3



Warren - 2005 (rate per 100k):

Murder rate: 3.7
Robbery rate: 163.7
Violent crime rate: 632.8
Burglary rate: 596.1
Motor Vehicle theft rate: 1,200.9
Total property crime rate: 3,450.8



Livonia - 2005 (rate per 100k):

Murder rate: 3.0
Robbery rate: 62.6
Violent crime rate: 171.7
Burglary rate: 448.8
Motor Vehicle theft rate: 285.8
Total property crime rate: 2,323.8
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 1:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While Detroit has a high crime rate, Windsor's crime rate is very low. I don't see any bad news on T.V. from black and black crime , white on white crime or black on white crime. On wonder lots of Windsorites keep their doors open while they on errands. They not packin' heat like the Americans do.

Why can we be like the Canadians? They seemed to have created their almost perfect utopian hippie liberal society where health care is universal and almost no one packin' heat.
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Blitz
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Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 3:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I could change one thing about Windsor, it would definitely be the labour unions and the associated crap spewed from them. Yes, I agree that iin some ways Windsor could be much more but I tend to blame the upper levels of government more than city council. The mayor and council aren't the reason we don't have an effective border crossing and we can't really blame them for all the plant closures either.

But I've noticed that people in Windsor constantly complain about everything and they seem to think it's so much better everywhere else - it's so annoying. In Brandon, after a 6 inch snowfall it takes them a full day to clear the major arteries and they don't even plow the side streets at all! People in Windsor would be up in arms about something like that.
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Goat
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Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I disagree Blitz. Local gov'ts can do more for the local population than can a provincial or federal gov't. They are supposed to be they eyes and ears of the residents.

Windsor has so much money coming in whether from casino revenues, tunnel crossing, massive property taxes...and yet they still spend it like a fool filled with drink.

I don't understand the hoopla over the extra crossing how is this going to benefit Windsor other than tradesmen being able to work on the project? You know as well as I do that most will be imported from other cities anyway.

Windsor 'could' be a great city with a little vision and leadership. Too bad that isn't happening at this time nor in the near future.

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