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French777
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why isn't their like a FRENCH TOWN or something
and who founded Greek town
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Quozl
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought it was German Town originally.
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Ndavies
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a Frenchtown. Frenchtown township in the middle of Monroe county. Just about 30 miles south of Detroit. There's even a shopping mall there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F renchtown_Square_Mall
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Greektown, and much of the lower east side was originally built by Germans in the 1850's-early 20th Century. Both St. Mary's in Greektown and St. Joseph's on Gratiot at Orleans were built by German congregations. And there were many different German clubs (choral societies, etc.) that were founded around the same time.

The Harmonie Club (2nd oldest club in Michigan, after the Detroit Boat Club) was founded in 1849, and built the Harmonie Club in 1894.

More Americans claim German heritage than any other nationality, and the midwestern cities of Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, Cincinnati and especially Milwaukee had heavy concentrations of ethnic Germans.
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Livernoisyard
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Milwaukee's Germans were as likely to be Austrians or Bohemians than Germans from Germany.
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Chow
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there they're their... its not too difficult.

while the french founded this town, they represent an earlier history which has been built over by others. i do think detroit should embrace its french heritage more than it does currently.
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Ed_golick
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 8:05 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there they're their... its not too difficult.

Neither are caps.
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Rustic
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 8:30 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greektown ~100 years ago was an entry neighborhood for new Detroiters that had darker skin than immigrants from western and central Europe. Ethnic Greeks, Armenian diaspora and "Syrians" flooded the neighborhood. American Blacks from the Mississippi Delta also found rental housing in the neighborhood.
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56packman
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 8:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One Greek started a restaurant there, making the foods from home. It was successful because the food was good, it was priced right and the place was spotlessly clean. Another Greek saw his success and located near the first restaurant and was successful (rinse, lather, repeat)
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Winstin_o_boogie_iii
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 9:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Several Greeks actually backed into a deal that evolved into Greektown after the Germans found their properties in arrears.
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Chow
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ed, i type without caps because i like the aesthetics of the lower-case letter. if you've got a problem with that then shoot me.
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Sturge
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sure beats all caps.
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Kslice
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go Irish, go Corktown!!!
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wasn't there a HUGE thread about this not too long ago?
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Ltdave
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not to belabor the grammatical aspect of a few of these posts, but if all lower case was good enough for e e cummings, then its good enough for me...

david
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Helpwanted
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i always type this way on message boards.
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Danny
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While Downtown Detroit having trouble keeping up with their stores. Greektown survives, even though is being confined into one whole block of Monroe St. I would like to see Greektown spread out to other Downtown Detroit city blocks providing more Greek owned shops and entertainment venues.
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Esp
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SEARCH this SITE "Before Greektown there was Germantown" ... excellent thread.
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Mikeg
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before Greektown there was Germantown
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Larry
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weren't their also alot of Greeks in the Palmer Park area at one time.
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Gistok
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In a figurative sense.... yes! :-)
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Larry
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No honestly, there was a Greek Orthodox Church on Renfrew not that long ago.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 1:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba can't find any caps in his california job case at cass tech. printshop. so sorry.

greektown has always been a phoney. jjaba remembers when they'd block off monroe st. on devil's night so the homosexuals could cross dress and walk from bar to bar. all the teenie boppers would man the barracades hoping for a glimpse.

jjaba recently saw that same thing waiting for geishas to go between appointments in kyoto.
throngs of adoring fans waiting outside for them.

remember, in the 1890s, america was worried about so many germans here, 25% of population then. same kinds of worries with spanish speakers being at about 12% today. plenty of xenophobia still alive today.

jjaba, traveler.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 2:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jjaba, watch your mailbox. You won.

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