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Miss_cleo
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We are getting a steady heavy rain right now, much needed. Hope it clears up for the fireworks tonight!
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:37 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"We are getting a steady heavy rain right now, much needed. Hope it clears up for the fireworks tonight!"

Well that rules out Severe Weather for you completely.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We're starting to get the sun full blast in SE Michigan. With the July Sun Angle, we can easily hit 80 degrees within 2-3 hours of sunshine (especially since it's at it's highest point).
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Severe WEather isn't completely out of the question looking at Upstream Stations in SW Michigan where the sun has been out all morning already around 80 degrees.

THe threat should equally be a cross between Hail, Wind and Heavy Rainfall if Severe Weather Does develop.

The Best Chance for it will be sometime after 3 or 4 O' Clock.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And Without the Sun, Most SE Michigan sites were already in the Mid to Upper 70s.

So this afternoon will be an interesting one.
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Miss_cleo
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

geez, its only 70 up here, but the humdity is 88% and the dew point is 66% so its sticky out
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, that's pretty stable up there. Not much evaporation taking place.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/produc ts/outlook/day1otlk.html

Now the Slight Risk Area includes All of SE Michigan is Afternoon and Evening.
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Quozl
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So your sentient thunderstorm theory is not applicable today Urbanize?
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, even in the most emphasized Severe WEather Event, the same scenario unfolds.

None the less, they're people on here that live and work in A2 and Downriver and Downtown, and what not.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 7:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is bullshit

http://www.wunderground.com/ra dar/radblast.asp?zoommode=zoom &num=1&delay=15&scale=0.500&no clutter=0&ID=DTX&type=N0R&lat= 0&lon=0&label=you&showstorms=3 1&map.x=329&map.y=231&centerx= 371&centery=165&lightning=1&sh owlabels=1&rainsnow=1

And earlier, those storms were over Macomb and Oakland Counties.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 7:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we are finally going to see some activity.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 8:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We already are. Flood Advisory (Urban and Small Stream) for Wayne, Monroe, Lenawee and Washtenaw Counties until 1:00 PM.

And all of this isn't even round 2, the severe round. If you thought this current round was bad, wait until the day gets through good.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When it comes to severe weather, a pretty Significant Clearing line is Bulldozing into SE Michigan as I speak and as it does, the sun should come out in full blast and heat us up fairly quickly (areas inside the dry slot have already reached 90 and with 70 degree dewpoints, heat indices are exceeding 100). In addition, that will help the atmosphere to become very condusive for Severe (at least right Now) Wet Microbursts (Frequent Cloud to Ground Lightning, Tropical Rains). One Short Term Model showed CAPES around or exceeding 3000 J/KG late this afternoon and Lifted Indexes going as low as -6 (all those favor fat updrafts for Severe Convection).

(Message edited by urbanize on August 07, 2007)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Urban the weather seems to be past us. Where are the afternoon storms I keep hearing about supposed to come from?
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Urbanize
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Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's the thing. These next round of storms just pop up out of nowhere once the Dynamics and Forcing all comes together. The Wind Shear Is Already in Place, The Moisture is definitely in Place, The Instability is building, now we must wait on the activity to begin popping up like Popcorn. The only Thing We Don't Have is All the Upper Level Support (Lapse Rates are only modest), just the Wind Shear organizing any fat updrafts and downdrafts together. You also need a Forcing Mechanism for them to pop up and it looks like the Outflow Boundaries will serve as that. They must reach their Convective Temperatures (Dewpoint-Temp Warm Air Parcel) though before they can become active.

Looks like something is trying to intensify east of Lansing. I'll have to watch it, although at this point it just seems to be a harmless downpour.
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Urbanoutdoors
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Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 7:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't know if it will make it this far north but the storm hitting to the south west looks pretty nasty.
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently we have a pretty crazy storm headed our way from chicago. Winds rain and hail.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/storms/2007-08-23-chicago-storms_N.htm?csp=34

(Message edited by Urbanoutdoors on August 23, 2007)
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 7:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeez, right as you posted that, I heard an ominous-- and deep-- ripple of thunder over here on the near NW side.
Heh. And The Little Girl just asked me to take the trash out...
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As some of you may know, My work requires me to watch for the boomers and lights.

This is what I use to track it.

http://www.accuweather.com/rad ar-large.asp?partner=accuweath er&traveler=0&site=MI_&type=SI R&anim=1&level=state&large=1
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to be very upset if I don't manage to snap any good pictures of lightning from this storm.
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny you say that Bohemian... I just gave up on trying myself. They were too far north of me (in Dearborn) by the time I decided to try. I did get a couple distant ones but I missed the closer big ones by a few minutes.
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's been pretty nasty today here in Chicago.
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of the bigger storms in a while...I was driving through walled lake and it got nasty...TONS of lightening...long chains of thick lightening
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It fizzled out when it got to Corktown lots of lightning but just a few drops. There is another band an hour or so away. We will see what this one will bring.

(Message edited by Urbanoutdoors on August 23, 2007)
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Quozl
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish Urbanize would come back, I miss his weather updates...
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The storm came in three waves, each one building in strength. Really amazing cloud formations from the first to the third wave. If anyone snapped some pics I hope you share them. What a show.
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

I wish Urbanize would come back, I miss his weather updates...



Me too.

Didn't get a single drop here so far (east side), just some lightning, very disappointing. Unlike this morning, of course just in time for a messy drive in to work.
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The storm wasn't too impressive here in Ann Arbor. All I got was one mediocre blurry lightning shot...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com /1123/1217731699_e9193707ef_o. jpg

(Message edited by bohemianrobot on August 23, 2007)
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Some pics I took, no lightening though..

http://s242.photobucket.com/al bums/ff125/tinamich/?action=vi ew&current=ecb31276.pbw

You can see how dark it became in a short time, very cool.
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Qweek
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lucky Robot!
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are a few of the shots I got. Nothing special with the lightning, though. As I said I got out too late for the lightning for my northwest facing balcony. I should have just stayed from shooting the sunset.




http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/pamastro/Storm%20Day%208-23-07/P8239416col.jpg




http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/pamastro/Storm%20Day%208-23-07/P8239419col.jpg




http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/pamastro/Storm%20Day%208-23-07/P8239440col.jpg




http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/pamastro/Storm%20Day%208-23-07/P8239511col.jpg
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ummm, looks pretty bad right now?? not sure what's going to happen.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YAY STORMS!!

God is looking for someone who sin and didn't forgive. His judgement cometh at ye final hour.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome pics Elsuperbob!

Thanks.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pretty crazy light show at the Dave Matthews concert @ DTE last night. 50 minute delay in starting the concert. A lot of people running for shelter off those viewing hills.

Major storm right now downtown. It is kinda crazy trying to find adequate shelter in Comerica from one of these weathermakers.
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321brian
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone here not think that we are affecting the weather in some way?
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Blub, blub! We went to Scotty Simpson's in Brightmoor for dinner, and the storm hit while we were in there tonight. We waited it out and left, but the streets around were all flooded, clear up to Seven Mile. We did manage to get through it all, but it was pretty impressive.
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Fenton got hit pretty bad, downtown got wiped out apparently.
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Does anyone else besides me think that WDIV’s coverage of this latest thunderstorm is massive overkill? It’s now after 8:00 PM, the storm passed over the metro area over an hour ago, and they’re still on the air. They have preempted every show since 6:30 PM including the national news so they could tell us it’s raining. Well, I can tell that by looking out the window. Besides, if I was really into the weather, there are several 24-hour weather channels to which I can tune. I think this is another example of how very unsophisticated our local TV news is.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramcharger There were several tornado touchdowns, Fenton, Howell, and Livingston has sustained some major damage, I 75 is completely shut down due to flooding and there are 70,000 + people out of power according to DTE, I'd say it was one of the worst storms in the last 3 years.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.detroitnews.com/app s/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200708 24/UPDATE/708240412
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Does anyone here not think that we are affecting the weather in some way?"

This kind of weather happens all the time (not so often in Michigan, but it has happened before). It'd be foolish to blame a one-time weather event on anything but normal weather oscillations.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Does anyone here not think that we are affecting the weather in some way?

I think it would be impossible for us to avoid affecting the weather because of the Butterfly effect.

I guess the debate is whether we should temper our actions to temper its effects.
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Elsuperbob
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Lowell

Tonight I kept saying at the rate the storms are coming they'll be here at 7, right at show time tonight where I work. And at about 7 I was going to check the radar and just then the power went out sending the theatre into total darkness. Luckily things were up again within 10 minutes and the show went on.

But other than that it was a pretty calm big storm down in East Dearborn. Nothing at all like what they got northwest of us.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clark,

I believe the climate is changing and our actions are causing it. Extremes in weather are a result.

For example: We went weeks without rain and then all of a sudden in a few days it rains a ton.

Last winter was mild in December and for most of January then all of a sudden it doesn't get above 10 degrees for a week or two.

The longer we avoid reality the worse things will get.

I'm not political about it but I believe it is happening.

I wish I lived back when we didn't know any better.
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone else watch the coverage on channel 7 from 10:30 to 11. It was like they had no teleprompters and did not know what to say. It was very hard to watch. All they did was say what they saw and were mixed up to hell!
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not saying climate change is a myth, and I do think it's at least in part human-caused. I'm just saying that storms and tornadoes have always happened every now and then in Michigan. You can't blame global warming every time the weather gets bad.

This has been the first real significant tornado event in SE Michigan in quite a few years, but not even close to being the worst ever.

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