Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors
Post Number: 420 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:32 am: | |
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Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 342 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 2:05 am: | |
that's what happens when there's nothing to keep the water out. (Message edited by wolverine on July 08, 2007) |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 237 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:16 pm: | |
Its amazing ...for every great project downtown there seems way too many of these to post on here. It's like putting a facelift on a cancer patient. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9514 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:22 pm: | |
Or it is an attempt to improve the quality of life for the cancer patient. Certainly helps stabbing the cancer patient in the heart which you seem to enjoy so much. |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 238 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 2:03 pm: | |
This cancer patient isn't my family member. Perhaps if more of it's brothers and sisters gave a damn it might recover. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9515 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:29 pm: | |
Are you really that ignorant that you don't understand the impact of Detroit's demise on the entire region? It is all of our family. But attitudes and shortsighted ignorant attitudes like yours will continue to decimate the region. I hate to break it to you but areas like northville do not exist in a vacuum. |
Caldogven Member Username: Caldogven
Post Number: 80 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 11:50 pm: | |
Urbanoutdoors Thanks for the photos. I went to Wright in the 50's when it was a very prestigious school. I'm sorry for the condition it's in now. |
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors
Post Number: 429 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 12:01 am: | |
Its just so sad to see how it has gone downhill in 4 years time. |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 3958 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 12:28 am: | |
I thought someone the forum said there plans to loft that school. Woodbridge folk, what's up? |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 8535 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 12:53 am: | |
Jt1 blathers: "Certainly helps stabbing the cancer patient in the heart which you seem to enjoy so much." I guess discussing the elephant in the living room is stabbing it in the heart. Let me guess, Jt1: You prefer not to confront/discuss the addicts in your family, instead ignoring their disruptions of family gatherings at the most inopportune times and hoping others won't notice. |
Caldogven Member Username: Caldogven
Post Number: 82 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 2:04 am: | |
Amen Karl!! |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 1113 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 7:47 am: | |
It would be nice if these people actually were interested in the confrontation and intervention for the good of the family member in Karl's analogy. However, as exemplified further above, people do not see it as their family member... they see it as someone else's family member, distance themselves from the family and then seem to enjoy making light of the situation in their "discussions." There must be a psychological reason for the distancing. People don't want to admit that their community has a family with the issue. They want to say that everything is great and that the other family is different and does not affect them. However, people from other communities will see you as someone from the community with the family issue.... no matter how far you distance yourself. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 3126 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 8:01 am: | |
Paul's analogy is appropriate but misdirected. The cancer patient is the metro area. The facelifts on the cancer patient are far more likely to be new stripmalls and subdivisions in BFE as anything happening in the city. The city of Detroit happens to bear the brunt of the scar tissue of a metro area suffering ~50 years of a flat economy and relatively flat population growth, but the malignancy is hardly localized South of 8mile and east of telegraph. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9516 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 9:07 am: | |
Karl - I am all for discussing the issues in the city and the region. In the same regard Paul likes to point out his experiences 30 years ago on damn near every thread. Paul will also discount anything positive happening in the city. If we want to discuss issues let's discuss them but Paul never contributes to any real discussion and his comment "This cancer patient isn't my family member. Perhaps if more of it's brothers and sisters gave a damn it might recover." is exactly what is wrong with the region. Paul doesn't realize that thinking only of what is happening in his vacuum/city is not the way for our region to advance. Paul may even believe that the ills of Detroit won't ever touch his little city. The truth is that we as a region are failing and must address many of our issues in a regional basis as opposed to the "My city is fine, Detroit sucks mentality" So Karl, if you feel the need to jump in what is your take on the region's decline and people in the region believing that Detroit's ills are only the ills of Detroit and its residents? Will Northville be viable in 20 years? Will Royal Oak? Will there be a decent standard of living in metro Detroit? With the way things are going the mentality that the ills are localized to and only solved by Detroit is pure ignorance. If we want to use the cancer analogy SE Michigan is a patient that opts to cut off its limbs out of spite to rid the cancer as opposed to fighting the cancer. The problem is that the cancer is not localized and cutting off limbs will not stop it from spreading. |
Izzadore Member Username: Izzadore
Post Number: 46 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 3:30 pm: | |
Gals and Guys... Are there any good examples of Schools being converted into loft space in Detroit? |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 9527 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 3:41 pm: | |
I believe that it was Joel Landy (?) that did a school on Antietam. Can't recall the name or project but I think that the halls still have the lockers and the auditorium was turned into one giant unit. |
Neilr Member Username: Neilr
Post Number: 536 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 4:20 pm: | |
Jt1, you are referring to the old Leland School in Lafayette Park which has been converted into the Leland Lofts. It seems to be quite successful. Several posters on this forum live there. Perhaps they will provide more information for Izzadore. |
Izzadore Member Username: Izzadore
Post Number: 47 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 5:24 pm: | |
I found a site. The photos of Leland School are impressive. http://www.lelandlofts.com/his tory.php For those of us that may wish to partake... Thanks Jt1 |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 685 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 7:57 pm: | |
check out what they are doing in Little Rock with the ARC and schools, hospitals etc...really cool re-development with a non-profit. I don't have a link sorry. |
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm
Post Number: 1319 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 9:09 pm: | |
Albuquerque has had success converting unused schools and other buildings to residential/commercial uses: http://www.abqhigh.com http://dcd.com/case_studies/06 11/061134.html http://www.downtownabq.com/cms /index.php/realestate/resident ial/ |