  Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1505 Registered: 11-2003 |
I know I posted something about this awhile back but couldn't find the thread..... Anyway, I was curious if the DPD publishes recent crime statistics, arrests, etc on their website so citizens can see what's happening and take an aggressive stance to work against the problem. I think the answer before was no. I'm wondering if this has changed. I'm also curious if Detroit (or other large cities) print/post a list of crimes reported on any given day. My reason for asking has to do with the CNN article by Lou Dobbs and the Kwame interview regarding the number of people killed in US cities and how it compares to those soldiers in Iraq. I do not want to take away from those who have died overseas, but I would like to know how many people are killed each day in America's cities. I suspect this information is not easily gathered, but it would provide a good way for people to see the death most of us are ignoring. Any way to get this information? | ||
Jjw Member Username: Jjw Post Number: 349 Registered: 10-2005 |
Jerome: Here is an example for Baltimore: http://www.baltimorepolice.org / Steps: 1. Resources 2. Police Crime Tools 3. Police Crime Mapping New screen pops up. Type in address or zip and it maps for you all crimes within a 1/2 mile. | ||
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet Post Number: 697 Registered: 01-2007 |
That Baltimore Police web site is well thought out and easy to navigate. Jerome81, some of may be ignoring the death around us, I seek it out. I am not as interested in numbers as I am in why. I would never compare them with war death, though, as they come from reasons. ( I just opened the door for the Bush[and Co] accusers]. DPD does keep count, because we hear crime stats quoted to them from news reports. I know what I would do to take “aggressive stance to work against the problem.” I am curious what you might think the citizens options would be? | ||
Hugo8100 Member Username: Hugo8100 Post Number: 31 Registered: 06-2006 |
St. Louis PD has a site that maps crimes, though it's not that user friendly. They do have pdf files that break the monthly crime data down by neighborhoods which is more useful. pdfs: http://64.218.68.50/slmpdweb/c rimestats/index.htm crime map: http://64.218.68.50/slmpdweb/s afecity/index.htm There is also chicagocrime.org, which I think is the best in terms of usability. There's really no reason Detroit PD can't release their data in a timely manner. | ||
Nainrouge Member Username: Nainrouge Post Number: 192 Registered: 05-2006 |
Chicago has a crime database at www.chicagocrime.org It is even tied into Google maps. Here in Detroit, it is next to impossible to get crime statistics except for those required by the FBI and they only give the stats for the entire city, not block-by-block like Chicago does. Any DPD execs on this list? How about releasing some of that data? If Chicago can do it, why can't we? I have heard that the reasoning for not releasing the data is that the press will use it to hurt Detroit's image. Personally, I would think that most people would be surprised that Detroit is not as bad as they think. I think the image of Detroit is worse than the reality and the release of detailed crime stats would actually help to improve the image of the city and give community activists and block watch groups useful information to work with. | ||
Haydenth Member Username: Haydenth Post Number: 227 Registered: 05-2005 |
The city of Chicago doesn't run Chicagocrime.org. They do run a site, which has a very poor user interface, that details crime on a block by block level. The guy that runs chicagocrime actually pulls the data from the city's site and adds the google maps and stuff. When I talked with the guy, he told me that the city doesn't necessarily like his site but they don't shut him down either. I've looked into making something similar for the CoD but it was a waste of time. The CoD has neither the technology, funds, time, or desire to enable access to this information. | ||
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 948 Registered: 12-2005 |
The reason Chicago has this kind of computerized crime data available is that their PD uses it for mapping and identifying trouble spots so they can focus their scarce resources accordingly. They also use their crime "data warehouse" to identify patterns and help close more cases. Once you are convinced of the value of policing using computerized statistical and graphical crime data, it appears that the next step is to share it with the public you serve (after all, it is public data and it can be handled paperlessly). It appears that Detroit's PD brass are still stuck in the 19th Century. (Message edited by Mikeg on June 22, 2007) | ||
Xd_brklyn Member Username: Xd_brklyn Post Number: 254 Registered: 10-2003 |
New Haven's Crime Log | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2007 |
Well, Detroit is no longer the most violent per capita. Flint is! Detroit is number 3. Welcome to Michigan! We rank high in Violence! I believe the state police need to have a board that meets periodically to discuss crime around the whole state, identify the trends, and the places worst hit, then meet with the local police officials to offer some help. I also believe the governor needs to step in and authorize the power to expand jurisdictions.In the parts of the highest crime cities, at the time of day it is highest, County deputies and state troopers need to patrol the streets and take some of the load off the city departments to help combat crime. They should also be able to assist with calls to make response times quicker.For example, have MSP and GEN. County patrolling Flints worst areas when crime is at its worst.Have them drive through for an increased presence. When calls back up, let them respond to some. I doubt it will happen, but I think it needs to be looked at. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 2358 Registered: 06-2004 |
I'm sure Chicago doesn't really want the information out there, either. Chicago, and much of Illinois, don't even report all categories to the FBI for the annual reports. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 744 Registered: 08-2005 |
I heard that a highly accurate running tally of murders in Detroit for 2007 can be found at this website: http://sof8mile.blogspot.com/ | ||
Dustin89 Member Username: Dustin89 Post Number: 29 Registered: 07-2006 |
For several reasons, a neighborhood-by-neighborhood breakdown of crime statistics for Detroit would be helpful. It would highlight the fact that there are safe, stable neighborhoods in Detroit. The total number of murders each year, and the percent increase or decrease in violent crime over years before is what makes the news. I don't think a neighborhood-by-neighborhood breakdown would hurt our image any more than it already is. | ||
Sticks Member Username: Sticks Post Number: 335 Registered: 08-2005 |
I remember reading on an earlier thread that yes, DPD crime stats are nigh impossible to get. Even with invoking the Freedom of Information Act. Which is quite disappointing. Maybe the FoIA doesn't apply here? I could probably do the same thing as the Chicago guy if the DPD would just put their stats online. Web-scraping for the win! | ||
Jjw Member Username: Jjw Post Number: 351 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dustin: You bring up a very valuable point. Baltimore also has a high murder rate but when they are reported, the neighborhood where it occurs is usually mentioned moreso than the city. The BCPD also has neighborhood breakdowns of crime. It does help with people's perspectives. They know that they can still invest in many parts of the city without the fear of getting shot. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 197 Registered: 05-2004 |
Geez where in Detroit would that be? In front of the police department? Hell, they've had shootings in the police department. |
